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Itís time for my first AR #7028462
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Got a $700-$800 budget for an AR. Going to build it. My boss has the vices and all the tools to put one together. I know some of what I want. I intend for this to be a target rifle. Thinking 20Ē heavy barrel (prefer stainless). No quad rail, but I like the key mod style hand guards. It will be a .223. Good trigger.

Can you build a sub moa rifle length AR like I want for under $800? That doesnít include optics.


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I think you can, based on the fact that for half that much you can buy an assembled upper and lower. Surely your budget has enough room for a better barrel and trigger...but then again, believing ain't the same as knowing.




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Re: Itís time for my first AR [Re: Tff caribou] #7028723
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looking at match barrels right now. There are a lot of brands, not sure which to look at most. Iíve been recommended criterion on another site, but there are lots of match grade barrels out there. White oak armament is one that caught my eye. What do yíall prefer?


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sure you can, as said before get a good trigger and good barrel with a target crown. Build your loads to the chamber of the barrel you get. Definitely use a free float forearm/handguard!

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Check out CDNN. They have some great deals going on right now on AR stuff.


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Re: Itís time for my first AR [Re: Tff caribou] #7028768
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I've had good experiences with ballistic advantage barrels. I would not go heavy bull barrel in 20" it will be very front heavy unless you go with something like the MagPul PRS stock which is heavy itself but even then it will still be front heavy and you'll have a 18 pound rifle before you know it.

Look at VLTOR Freedom rails they're my new go to for keymod.

Geiselle trigger for 2 stage or CMC drop in for single stage. I have both and both are great.

White Oak makes a great barrel too.


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I've solved your barrel dilemma

https://www.larue.com/products/5-56-stealth-barrel-k/

If you want whole kit:

https://www.larue.com/products/larue-ultimate-ar-15-upper-kit/

You still need a lower.

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I'm a big fan of Shilen barrels. But a 20" .223 Wylde will set you back at least $400 and maybe $480 depending on what you order. If you get the $400 barrel and go with about as cheap as you can find parts for the rest of the gun, have a crappy stock trigger I figure you end up at about $860 for the build. And you still need to spend another $150 to get a decent trigger.

That should pretty easily shoot sub MOA, but with a milspec trigger you will have to work for it.

Realistically I think you need to up your budget a bit and figure on at least $1,000 for the build.

That Larue Ultimate kit that tenyearsgone posted above with a 20" 5.56 barrel comes in at $792, figure $75 for a stripped lower and that's a pretty decent rifle that is just over your price point.


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White oak, criterion, kreiger barrels is what Iíd look at. WO will run $275, the other two are $100 more. Figure $150 for a trigger and youíre at $425-$525. Iíd say your budget is perfectly attainable.


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Re: Itís time for my first AR [Re: tenyearsgone] #7029608
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Originally Posted By: tenyearsgone
I've solved your barrel dilemma

https://www.larue.com/products/5-56-stealth-barrel-k/

If you want whole kit:

https://www.larue.com/products/larue-ultimate-ar-15-upper-kit/

You still need a lower.


I really like that kit. My biggest hang up is the barrel isnít stainless. Which I know is silly, but I guess we want what we want.


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Just broke t to my wife that my dream rifle will be closer to $1100-$1200 and her response was, hey, as long as itís the one you want, and you buy it in stages, thatís fine.

Thatís a good wife gentleman.


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Originally Posted By: Tff caribou
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I've solved your barrel dilemma

https://www.larue.com/products/5-56-stealth-barrel-k/

If you want whole kit:

https://www.larue.com/products/larue-ultimate-ar-15-upper-kit/

You still need a lower.


I really like that kit. My biggest hang up is the barrel isnít stainless. Which I know is silly, but I guess we want what we want.


Dude, don't pass up such a good kit on a technicality. It is made out of steel though. Rearden Steel to be exact. I've used three of them, and easily get 1/4 moa.

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Check out ARP for your barrel http://www.ar15performance.com/5_56_223_wylde


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Rearden steel? Mmmm...read Ayn Rand much?




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Originally Posted By: RiverRider
Rearden steel? Mmmm...read Ayn Rand much?

roflmao
They were out of unobtainium.

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Rearden steel? Mmmm...read Ayn Rand much?

roflmao
They were out of unobtainium.


The joke was meant. I know it says it on their barrels. I get a laugh out of it.

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Originally Posted By: KRoyal
Geiselle trigger for 2 stage or CMC drop in for single stage. I have both and both are great.


Originally Posted By: KK30RAR
Check out ARP for your barrel http://www.ar15performance.com/5_56_223_wylde


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Rearden steel? Mmmm...read Ayn Rand much?

roflmao
They were out of unobtainium.


The joke was meant. I know it says it on their barrels. I get a laugh out of it.


As would I! Didn't know that.




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Geiselle trigger for 2 stage or CMC drop in for single stage. I have both and both are great.


Originally Posted By: KK30RAR
Check out ARP for your barrel http://www.ar15performance.com/5_56_223_wylde


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Iíve heard really mixed reviews on ARP on other sites.

Do yíall currently use them on your rifles? I trust THF recommendations over Reddit.


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Put a beauty on layaway today.

SOTA billet side charging upper
SOTA billet lower
Trinity Ordnance 16Ē handguard
Bear creek arsenal 18.5Ē fluted barrel (factory MOA guarantee)
Timber Creek brake
LuthAR stock
Magpul grip
Nikon m223 scope with mount

$899

The only thing it doesnít have is a quality trigger. Iíll replace that eventually, but whoever built this must have built it for me, because itís exactly what I wanted.


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I have 3 arp barrels 6.5 Grendel, 224 Predator , 6mm predator all are great shooters. The arp 200$ grendel will out shoot my 500$ shilen barrel . I personal never heard a bad word about arp barrels now the owner does at times seems to have a bad attitude.


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You can absolutely build one for that budget. Be careful because it is addictive. I'm working on a second build and making plans for a third!

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You can absolutely build one for that budget. Be careful because it is addictive. I'm working on a second build and making plans for a third!


I'm on number 6. It is very addicting.

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Iím sure Iíll build one eventually, but I picked that one up that I posted a picture of. It was EXACTLY what I wanted and it was about $200-$300 less than I could put it together for.

Plus, the scope is mil dot and MOA turrets, so itís the best of both worlds!!! bolt

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