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Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/06/18 01:00 AM
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bobcat1
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What shells should I take in 12 gauge? Never hunted them before. Going with Muddy Waters Outfitters the 27th. My gun will shoot up to 3.5's
Bobby Barnett
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/06/18 01:04 AM
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/06/18 01:08 AM
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Bobby Barnett
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/06/18 01:53 AM
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john paul
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I always bring 3.5" just in case they don't finish right and you have to take 45 yard shots all morning. Those extra pellets help on the longer shots for sure.
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I'm with GK because I like salty old dudes.
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/06/18 02:17 AM
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I always bring 3.5" just in case they don't finish right and you have to take 45 yard shots all morning. Those extra pellets help on the longer shots for sure. Go for all the fire power you can. Of course you will not be as cool as the guy that will soon post that he limits on sandhill with a 410 wearing a hawaiian shirt.
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/06/18 02:43 AM
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bobcat1
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So 3.5's in BB
Bobby Barnett
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/06/18 02:50 AM
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justinxxxz
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From experience, 3.5 Dead Coyote will fold their asses at ranges you wouldn't think possible.
After my poor boy wallet went through those 3 boxes of coyote I have been using 3.5 BB.
Shot placement is key. We had three last week get hit about 35-40 yards away with 3.5 BB. All had a leg hanging and had trouble flying. Two crashed like a plane about 150 & 250 yards out. The other had to be about a mile away in front of us in the open field before he kicked up dust.
Let the duck hunters say what they want about 3.5 shells but I would never use a 3 on cranes. I damn sure would like to use an AR-15 if it was legal.
Tough [censored] birds and I would rather hunt them than anything else.
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/06/18 11:00 AM
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Pintail711
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High brass lead. I don’t know why people want to waste money on steel when you can shoot lead for cranes.
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/06/18 01:01 PM
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High brass lead. I don’t know why people want to waste money on steel when you can shoot lead for cranes. Any 31/2" lead shot in BB will be impossible to find....not sure it's made. Those are the hardest birds to drop imo. If it is snowing, or there is no wind, expect 50+ yards shots. jmo. You can shoot lead, but if there is a chance at any geese then you won't be able to shoot legally.
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/06/18 01:33 PM
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/06/18 05:53 PM
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Thanks for the suggestions everyone.
Bobby Barnett
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/06/18 08:10 PM
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Dont use lead with muddy waters, last time we had geese fly over while crane hunting. We could not shoot at them cause some idiot was shooting lead. 3 inch nr 2 or BB is fine, i shot a long goose patternmaster choke. I used heavy metal. Shoot em in the head. Day two was high winds and i used 3 1/2 inch heavy shot dead coyote as birds were 60 yards out. That stuff is increddible. You gonna shoot 3-10 shell per hunt. Might as well buy the good stuff on a expensive trip. You will have fun there, the guides are good, the food is great, the lodging is good too.
The first day we shot 36 and they were landing 15 yards out The second day we only got 3 and they were flying over at 60-70 yards. So bring a box of BB and buy some dead coyote
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/06/18 08:30 PM
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Be prepared for follow up shots. They have some serious thick skin. I've hit one in the chest and he just kept on flying.
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/06/18 09:13 PM
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Pintail711
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High brass lead. I don’t know why people want to waste money on steel when you can shoot lead for cranes. Any 31/2" lead shot in BB will be impossible to find....not sure it's made. Those are the hardest birds to drop imo. If it is snowing, or there is no wind, expect 50+ yards shots. jmo. You can shoot lead, but if there is a chance at any geese then you won't be able to shoot legally. Well no chit? You must not shoot a lot ... If you’re shooting cranes at 50 yards, you’re guide ain’t doing the job.
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/06/18 11:57 PM
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Have a great and successful trip...post lots of pics.....
I believe in science and I’m an insufferable [censored] Actually, BBC is pretty damn good "You Cannot Simultaneously Be Politically Correct And Intellectually Honest!"
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/07/18 03:23 AM
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bobcat1
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I am scratching my head here. Lots of differing opinions. I bought a Patternmaster 12ga Remington Pro Bore Classic Extended Range https://www.joeboboutfitters.com/product-p/pm-5438.htm for my Versamax when I got it last year. I can shoot 2 3/4 - 3 1/2 shells lead or steel. I'm thinking Hevi Metal 3.5 BB. Will that get it done?
Bobby Barnett
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/07/18 04:15 AM
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justinxxxz
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I shoot 3.5 Hevi-Metal with my Versamax Synthetic switching from extended /mid Hevi-Shot choke depending on how they fly. Will sell it in the off season but that is another story.
That shot is good for 40 yards on cranes. Went this morning and they stayed on the roost and didn't fly much at in the morning(out of the norm). Finally had about 4 fly over about 45-50 yards and just knocked feathers off(HM 3.5) and watched it fly off with the group without struggle.
I would buy one box of 3.5 dead coyote T($50) or grab some 3" kent tungsen like another mentioned.
Check the choke to see if its good for those loads though.
Hevi-Metal will get the job done though. Just dont expect miracles like they claim. Chasing a wounding crane for 200-400 yards in a wet field will not leave a good feeling....
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/07/18 04:30 AM
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High brass lead. I don’t know why people want to waste money on steel when you can shoot lead for cranes. Any 31/2" lead shot in BB will be impossible to find....not sure it's made. Those are the hardest birds to drop imo. If it is snowing, or there is no wind, expect 50+ yards shots. jmo. You can shoot lead, but if there is a chance at any geese then you won't be able to shoot legally. Well no chit? You must not shoot a lot ... If you’re shooting cranes at 50 yards, you’re guide ain’t doing the job. Don't make assumptions Pinhead....you don't know me. I'm offering a guy info per his inquiry. As stated by others, some days you cant get them in close. But I'm sure you're better at killing stuff than most of us. Stay classy bud.
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/07/18 05:13 AM
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Head shot at 40 yds. no.4 Lead.
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/07/18 11:46 PM
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bobcat1
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MWO guy suggested 3" BB. Guess I'll take some of those too.
Bobby Barnett
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/07/18 11:49 PM
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I would just take what the guide suggested. 3” BB will be perfect
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/08/18 02:11 PM
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Gary Willmann
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Hevi Shot #4 will bust a crane's arse, so will steel #2, if you ain't shooting lead.
BBs will work just fine, I just like the higher pellet count with #2 if shooting steel.
If geese are a possibility, then definitely do not take lead (thank you Cpt. Obvious)
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/08/18 08:46 PM
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I use 3 1/2's because they don't make 4's !!
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Re: Nephew booked us a Sandhill hunt
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01/08/18 09:09 PM
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I use 3.5" BBB for crane. A big bird that still has some fight in them if you don't fold them up.
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