Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
Daniel Cobb, hardknocks, foxrocket, Austin Daniel, Carnivore419
64337 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
dogcatcher 90,092
stxranchman 53,720
bill oxner 49,668
RKHarm24 44,577
rifleman 44,411
BMD 41,009
SnakeWrangler 39,436
Big Orn 37,484
txshntr 35,376
Facebook
Forum Statistics
Forums45
Topics417,639
Posts6,072,112
Members64,337
Most Online16,728
Mar 25th, 2012
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Hornady SST #7023324
01/03/18 08:45 PM
01/03/18 08:45 PM
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 34
T
Txlonghorn Offline OP
Light Foot
Txlonghorn  Offline OP
Light Foot
T

Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 34
My son shot an axis and a whitetail this weekend, both in the neck with a 260. The129 SST dropped them both in their tracks but the bullet did not pass through. The axis was moving quite a bit but never got back up so I was worried it had not broken the spine. Is this normal for the SST and is the ELDX better?

Re: Hornady SST [Re: Txlonghorn] #7023338
01/03/18 08:52 PM
01/03/18 08:52 PM
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 4,043
Watauga, TX
T
Tff caribou Offline
Extreme Tracker
Tff caribou  Offline
Extreme Tracker
T

Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 4,043
Watauga, TX
And here come the neck shot police...

I donít think the purpose of a polymer tipped bullet is to pass through. You want it to expand rapidly and dump all of its energy inside your target. Sounds like they did exactly that. If you want pass through, switch to a soft point. Much more likely to get an exit


The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference. -George Washington
Re: Hornady SST [Re: Txlonghorn] #7023340
01/03/18 08:58 PM
01/03/18 08:58 PM
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 28,678
Texas
R
redchevy Online content
THF Celebrity
redchevy  Online Content
THF Celebrity
R

Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 28,678
Texas
Everyone knows me as a one trick pony partition partition partition... well ill surprise a few people. I like easily frangible bullets aka soft point cup and core, v-max, sst, ballistic tip etc. bullets for neck shots, you want to mess that spine up.

I would still like a bullet with enough substance to exit, I would try stepping up in weight a little, will give more energy a little less speed and likely better penetration and weight retention.

Neck shot critters have been known to flop and kick a lot, its the ones that fall and never move you need to be leery of.


It's hell eatin em live
Re: Hornady SST [Re: Txlonghorn] #7023346
01/03/18 09:01 PM
01/03/18 09:01 PM
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 28,690
B
Brother in-law Online content
THF Celebrity
Brother in-law  Online Content
THF Celebrity
B

Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 28,690
Axis have a lot more desire to live than a WT. I would shoot whichever one your gun likes

Re: Hornady SST [Re: Txlonghorn] #7023386
01/03/18 09:26 PM
01/03/18 09:26 PM
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 34
T
Txlonghorn Offline OP
Light Foot
Txlonghorn  Offline OP
Light Foot
T

Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 34
The gun he shoots now likes the round. Unfortunately there are not a lot of factory options for the 260. It is a model 7 Remington so I will most likely be getting him a 6.5 CM next year in a full stock.

I know some people say don't neck shoot but (knock on woood) I have never lost one I shot in the neck and never had one get back up.

Re: Hornady SST [Re: Txlonghorn] #7023545
01/03/18 10:58 PM
01/03/18 10:58 PM
Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 848
Texas
E
el_cazador713 Offline
Tracker
el_cazador713  Offline
Tracker
E

Joined: Mar 2014
Posts: 848
Texas
I've shot the 129 sst exclusively out of my 6.5 creedmoor and it has yet to not provide a complete passthru on every animal shot, which includes an axis doe right in the neck. Spine was completely severed and there was a silver dollar size exit. That was at a little over 100 yards.

I've been very impressed with the performance and it drops them in their tracks!

Re: Hornady SST [Re: Txlonghorn] #7023747
01/04/18 01:23 AM
01/04/18 01:23 AM
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 7,648
Granbury, TX
G
Grizz Online content
THF Trophy Hunter
Grizz  Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
G

Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 7,648
Granbury, TX
I'm not shocked that there was no exit. There is a lot of meat and bone in the neck to stop a bullet, especially one like an SST. I shot a deer with a .308 SST a couple of weeks ago (behind the shoulder) and it exited with a golf ball size hole, but it only had ribs and organs to go through.


Re: Hornady SST [Re: Txlonghorn] #7023752
01/04/18 01:26 AM
01/04/18 01:26 AM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 26,637
Wolfe City, TX
F
FiremanJG Offline
THF Celebrity
FiremanJG  Offline
THF Celebrity
F

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 26,637
Wolfe City, TX
Originally Posted By: Txlonghorn
The gun he shoots now likes the round. Unfortunately there are not a lot of factory options for the 260. It is a model 7 Remington so I will most likely be getting him a 6.5 CM next year in a full stock.

I know some people say don't neck shoot but (knock on woood) I have never lost one I shot in the neck and never had one get back up.


How do you feel about buying handloading equipment instead?

.260 Rem and 6.5 Creedmoor are ballistic twins, literally.

Load a 140 gr in the .260 Rem, and you will be very pleased.



800 Yard Steel Range
Precision Rifle Instruction
Memberships and Classes Available
Re: Hornady SST [Re: Txlonghorn] #7023754
01/04/18 01:28 AM
01/04/18 01:28 AM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,993
C
ccoker Online content
Extreme Tracker
ccoker  Online Content
Extreme Tracker
C

Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,993
SSTs are fine foe deer unless you run them super fast.


www.TacticalGunReview.com
www.TexasOutDoorsnetwork.com


Disclosure statement
Affiliated with Silencer Shop, Steiner Optics,Trijicon and Wilson Combat. Dealer for Steiner, Flir and Pulsar.

Re: Hornady SST [Re: Txlonghorn] #7023755
01/04/18 01:28 AM
01/04/18 01:28 AM
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,246
Galveston Bay
B
Bigfoot Online content
Pro Tracker
Bigfoot  Online Content
Pro Tracker
B

Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,246
Galveston Bay
I am also very impressed with the SST. I have shot 2 hogs recently and neither one of them went more than 10 yards. If they do run I am in trouble because these bullets dont seem to leave much of a blood trail. But as long as they are DRT no blood trail is needed.


30-06
6.8SPC
45acp
22LR
Re: Hornady SST [Re: Txlonghorn] #7023804
01/04/18 02:04 AM
01/04/18 02:04 AM
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 25,246
Corsicana
N
Nogalus Prairie Offline
THF Celebrity
Nogalus Prairie  Offline
THF Celebrity
N

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 25,246
Corsicana
I am leery of them in a smaller bullet because they havenít left a blood trail on 3 deer shot by my wife and daughter. All 3 good shots and no big trouble caused, but I like a blood trail where we hunt.


Originally Posted By: Russ79
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.


Re: Hornady SST [Re: FiremanJG] #7023816
01/04/18 02:17 AM
01/04/18 02:17 AM
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 34
T
Txlonghorn Offline OP
Light Foot
Txlonghorn  Offline OP
Light Foot
T

Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 34
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: Txlonghorn
The gun he shoots now likes the round. Unfortunately there are not a lot of factory options for the 260. It is a model 7 Remington so I will most likely be getting him a 6.5 CM next year in a full stock.

I know some people say don't neck shoot but (knock on woood) I have never lost one I shot in the neck and never had one get back up.


How do you feel about buying handloading equipment instead?

.260 Rem and 6.5 Creedmoor are ballistic twins, literally.

Load a 140 gr in the .260 Rem, and you will be very pleased.


I realize they are ballistic twins and I feel a little silly looking at the 6.5 but the 260 factory options are limited and I really don't have the time to handload. Also, the model 7 he is shooting has a shory light barrel that I am mot a big fan of anyway. In fact, the gun seems to have the recoil of a 270 or more because of the light weight and short barrel. I shoot a 300 so it doesn't bother me but my little guy is 12 and it might him. It just seems more options for the 6.5 in factory loads.

Re: Hornady SST [Re: Txlonghorn] #7023857
01/04/18 02:47 AM
01/04/18 02:47 AM
Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 67
S
Sigmund Offline
Outdoorsman
Sigmund  Offline
Outdoorsman
S

Joined: Dec 2015
Posts: 67
This is a bit of an apples & oranges comparison, but itís the only experience I have with both of the bullets in question.

For a while I used the 180gr SST in 30-06 for hunting deer & pigs. Whatever it hit did not go far, but I found field dressing a bit messier than necessary at times with heart shots.

This was the first year I used the 143gr ELD-X in 6.5 creedmoor on a deer. Heart shot through & through, very little meat damage, and no bullet fragments. I was very happy with its performance.

Range was typically around 100y.

Iíll occasionally bring a deer home to process myself, so itís a priority to me to not have bullet fragments in the meat when Iím trying to run it through the grinder. If I were shooting in the neck I would consider staying with the SST, in my experience they have been pretty devastating, and in the neck youíre not ruining any choice cuts of meat.

Re: Hornady SST [Re: ccoker] #7023864
01/04/18 02:58 AM
01/04/18 02:58 AM
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 1,227
West Texas
J
Jgraider Offline
Pro Tracker
Jgraider  Offline
Pro Tracker
J

Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 1,227
West Texas
Originally Posted By: ccoker
SSTs are fine foe deer unless you run them super fast.


Agreed, and lay off of bone if possible.

Re: Hornady SST [Re: Txlonghorn] #7023872
01/04/18 03:06 AM
01/04/18 03:06 AM
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 5,517
Mesquite, Tx
B
bigjoe8565 Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
bigjoe8565  Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
B

Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 5,517
Mesquite, Tx
I love the SSTs for deer and hogs. They've never let me down.

Re: Hornady SST [Re: Txlonghorn] #7023876
01/04/18 03:09 AM
01/04/18 03:09 AM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,993
C
ccoker Online content
Extreme Tracker
ccoker  Online Content
Extreme Tracker
C

Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,993
120 SST in the 6.8 is outstanding on deer and even big hogs


www.TacticalGunReview.com
www.TexasOutDoorsnetwork.com


Disclosure statement
Affiliated with Silencer Shop, Steiner Optics,Trijicon and Wilson Combat. Dealer for Steiner, Flir and Pulsar.

Re: Hornady SST [Re: Grizz] #7023891
01/04/18 03:17 AM
01/04/18 03:17 AM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 13,885
Lewisville, TX
C
ChadTRG42 Offline
THF Celebrity
ChadTRG42  Offline
THF Celebrity
C

Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 13,885
Lewisville, TX
Originally Posted By: Grizz
I'm not shocked that there was no exit. There is a lot of meat and bone in the neck to stop a bullet, especially one like an SST. I shot a deer with a .308 SST a couple of weeks ago (behind the shoulder) and it exited with a golf ball size hole, but it only had ribs and organs to go through.


^^ This. I had a customer shoot a large S. Texas buck in the neck with a 28 Nosler and 195 grain EOL from 90 yards. The buck dropped in it's tracks, and guess what, the bullet did NOT exit! I was shocked, but the neck has a lot of dense meat and bone, and sucks up a lot of bullets.

If the animal went down in short order, I'd say it was a success!



Custom and Precision Ammunition!!
www.DallasReloads.com
Type 01 and Type 06 FFL
Re: Hornady SST [Re: Txlonghorn] #7023905
01/04/18 03:29 AM
01/04/18 03:29 AM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,993
C
ccoker Online content
Extreme Tracker
ccoker  Online Content
Extreme Tracker
C

Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,993
Lots of people talk badly about the VMAX but the 178g AMAX at 308 velocities is awesome, it expands, does big damage and holds together and almost always punches through.


www.TacticalGunReview.com
www.TexasOutDoorsnetwork.com


Disclosure statement
Affiliated with Silencer Shop, Steiner Optics,Trijicon and Wilson Combat. Dealer for Steiner, Flir and Pulsar.

Re: Hornady SST [Re: ccoker] #7024452
01/04/18 03:53 PM
01/04/18 03:53 PM
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,073
Ft. Worth
G
garyrapp55 Offline
Pro Tracker
garyrapp55  Offline
Pro Tracker
G

Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,073
Ft. Worth
Originally Posted By: ccoker
120 SST in the 6.8 is outstanding on deer and even big hogs

Agreed, in fact it's all I shoot anymore through mine. The only time the hogs don't drop is my fault.

If you're not finding the bullet you want loaded factory, Chad might be able to do that for you. It sounds like you are not happy with the rifle and bullet though. Does the young one complain of the recoil? Don't fix what ain't broke.

Re: Hornady SST [Re: Txlonghorn] #7024482
01/04/18 04:12 PM
01/04/18 04:12 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 5,371
DFW
D
DocHorton Online content
THF Trophy Hunter
DocHorton  Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
D

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 5,371
DFW
I've killed almost 50 hogs with 120 SST's in an 8.5" 300 BO and have gotten pass through on almost every one....and some of them were big hogs. I love the SST bullet.

Re: Hornady SST [Re: Txlonghorn] #7024492
01/04/18 04:15 PM
01/04/18 04:15 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,993
C
ccoker Online content
Extreme Tracker
ccoker  Online Content
Extreme Tracker
C

Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,993
yep, been a 6.8 user for almost 10 years, we have 3 in the safe and I have had numerous other hunting buddies get them after seeing how well they work.
I have tried pretty much every bullet for the 6.8 and ran hot handloaded 95g TTSXs for several years, I was lucky enough to have been giving a 500 of preproduction samples to test and provide feedback on.
But I hated chasing brass and HAVING to handload. I got a good connection at Hornady and the 120 SST factory ammo, while not loaded "hot" have put the hurt on everything I have shot, even bad shots on running pigs.

Speaking of neck shots, that was my dad's primary shot placement, of course he was a believer in light and fast, 22-250, 243, 25-06, etc.. I had shot a LOT of deer with the neck shot and had my first bad experience about a month ago. Shooting my new 7mm08, I shot a doe with the GMX 139g, it dropped, went to get it and to my shock it got up and ran away, I hit it again at about 30 yards and when I went over, there was a 1" hole almost dead center in the neck pouring blood out. My first shot apparantly "just missed" the spine and it would have surely bled out. My take was that the GMX was just too stoutly constructed for 7mm08 velocities and thin skinned deer. That and one I shot from a tower blind through the top of the head at 80 yards, exiting top of neck under jaw (DRT of course) and the lack of a bigger exit wound made me switch from the GMX.


www.TacticalGunReview.com
www.TexasOutDoorsnetwork.com


Disclosure statement
Affiliated with Silencer Shop, Steiner Optics,Trijicon and Wilson Combat. Dealer for Steiner, Flir and Pulsar.

Re: Hornady SST [Re: garyrapp55] #7024559
01/04/18 04:48 PM
01/04/18 04:48 PM
Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 34
T
Txlonghorn Offline OP
Light Foot
Txlonghorn  Offline OP
Light Foot
T

Joined: Dec 2017
Posts: 34
Originally Posted By: garyrapp55
Originally Posted By: ccoker
120 SST in the 6.8 is outstanding on deer and even big hogs

Agreed, in fact it's all I shoot anymore through mine. The only time the hogs don't drop is my fault.

If you're not finding the bullet you want loaded factory, Chad might be able to do that for you. It sounds like you are not happy with the rifle and bullet though. Does the young one complain of the recoil? Don't fix what ain't broke.


I am lucky. My son is good kid and never complains about much of anything. I just figured he is going to outgrow the model 7 since it has a short stock. Also, I don't like the short light tapered barrel. He shoots it well so I guess he could just keep using it. I think dad just wanted a new toy. Lol. That's why I was considering a 6.5 with a heavier barrel and adult stock.

Re: Hornady SST [Re: ccoker] #7024577
01/04/18 04:56 PM
01/04/18 04:56 PM
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 13,257
Forney, Tx
B
BigPig Offline
THF Celebrity
BigPig  Offline
THF Celebrity
B

Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 13,257
Forney, Tx
Originally Posted By: ccoker
SSTs are fine foe deer unless you run them super fast.


This is why I stopped running them in my 270. I had bought a couple of boxes of the Superformance line, 130gr, and the results under 200 yards was much less desirable. I even switched back to Winchester Silver tips for a few hunts. Hornady advertises these round to only maintain 50-60% weight retention under 400 yards, over 400 and itís 80-90%. When I ran them through my 26 inch barrel, they chronographed an average of 3030fps, with a few pushing 3090. Thatís a darn fast round for only huntin 0-200 yards. Now my wifeís 257wby goes the same speeds, but using a different bullet it has a much better effect on deer


Originally Posted By: bill oxner
Ever spit it out rather than swallow it?

Originally Posted By: pegasaurus
Enjoy it while you can. One day you might be complaining about NOT getting random pop-ups in the morning. grin
Re: Hornady SST [Re: Txlonghorn] #7024723
01/04/18 06:27 PM
01/04/18 06:27 PM
Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,073
Ft. Worth
G
garyrapp55 Offline
Pro Tracker
garyrapp55  Offline
Pro Tracker
G

Joined: Dec 2011
Posts: 1,073
Ft. Worth
Originally Posted By: Txlonghorn
Originally Posted By: garyrapp55
Originally Posted By: ccoker
120 SST in the 6.8 is outstanding on deer and even big hogs

Agreed, in fact it's all I shoot anymore through mine. The only time the hogs don't drop is my fault.

If you're not finding the bullet you want loaded factory, Chad might be able to do that for you. It sounds like you are not happy with the rifle and bullet though. Does the young one complain of the recoil? Don't fix what ain't broke.


dad just wanted a new toy

Bingo, and nothing wrong with that. Enjoy!!

Re: Hornady SST [Re: Txlonghorn] #7025619
01/05/18 06:13 AM
01/05/18 06:13 AM
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 479
East of Dallas
O
Old Stony Online content
Bird Dog
Old Stony  Online Content
Bird Dog
O

Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 479
East of Dallas
I love the 123 SST's out of my 6.5 CM. Lots of hogs shot with it and some deer as well. Great accuracy and good performance. I prefer the neck shots though or at least front of the shoulder for hogs. Last hog was 180 pounder and dropped on the spot.

Last edited by Old Stony; 01/05/18 06:14 AM.
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread


© 2004-2019 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
UBB.threads™ 7.6.2