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Winchester shells #7013581
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I'm sure I'm about to get some grief on this. I see more wounded birds with silver box Winchester. Guys buy it because it's easy to find and cheap. I can usually kill 6 ducks with 10 or less shells. I shot some the other day. Confirmed my suspicion. 10 shells finally wounded a duck bad enough I could kill it on the water with 2 more shells. Absolute junk in my opinion.


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Re: Winchester shells [Re: Blake E.] #7013640
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For some it shoots great, for others it doesn't. My 1100 fixed imp cyl loves the game and target 6 shot steel loads for teal and they are stupid cheap for steel. Now when I shoot the waterfowl #4 I cant hit anything. So I've been shooting black cloud with ok success, will try something different when the case is empty though.

Anybody wanna buy 4 boxes of black cloud #2 shot?


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Wingshooting is like sex for me - I love doing it but I'm just not that good at it.
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I've killed 6 Ducks with 10 or less shells plenty of times with cheap Winchesters. Never seem to wound many birds with any shells I shoot honestly. The most cripples I had in one day were actually with a box of heavy metal

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Re: Winchester shells [Re: Blake E.] #7013669
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Have tried it all and came to the conclusion that Winchester expert is as good as any.

Re: Winchester shells [Re: Blake E.] #7013677
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I think you're talking about Winchester Xperts. And yea those suck. Do a search on Cappy_Tx. He cut one open and the shot inside the shell is horrible. Looks like melted slag ground up.

I prefer Kent



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Yes experts, i had the same group of five guys many times that constantly kill birds with heavy metal. One day they bring Winchester and shot terrible. They killed 25 but took 3 times the birds. I hunt guys five times a week. Guys with Winchester experts have a tough time. I had a guy shoot one over the water. Half of the pellets stayed in the wading.


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bottom line- Shoot what ammunition you're most accurate with and most confident with. They all have pluses and minuses.

As for switching shells- stick with 1 brand. The speed and load differences may be the difference you see with the 5 guys. I see a difference in my cripple rate when I switch between brands. So I stick with 1 brand.

How far are the birds they're shooting? heavy metal will have better knock down power past 40 yards- which if they're shooting further birds, could see your cripple rate go up.

Don't knock xperts- I recovered 95 ducks/geese this year with 125 rounds. Only had to finish 2 on the water. Had 2 I sailed and couldn't recover, but that was likely bad shooting on my part. But I rarely shoot anything past 25 yards.


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Duck buster I believe you do good with them. I bet you shoot well and shoot more to the head. As best as I can tell less tolerance for a body shot than the more premium brands. It could all be coincident. It just seems like my guys have a tougher time when shooting them. Average shot under 40 yards.


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Originally Posted By: Blake E.
Duck buster I believe you do good with them. I bet you shoot well and shoot more to the head. As best as I can tell less tolerance for a body shot than the more premium brands. It could all be coincident. It just seems like my guys have a tougher time when shooting them. Average shot under 40 yards.


Shoot them in the face

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They make the xpert and the superX......I've had decent luck with the superX.

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I bought a box last minute this year. Didnít take a shot the first few hunts. Had all sorts of problems when I finally did take a few shots. I thought Iíd messed up when I broke my gun down to clean it well before the season. Turns out it was the ammo.

More than one shell wouldnít fire. Tried some Remington ammo I had left over from last season on my next hunt and it worked fine. Cycled every shot.


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I use 2 BPS's and neither likes the xperts, however, my son shoots an SX3 and it works fine. Just depends on the gun, IMO.

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I had good luck with Winchester shells. Just dont buy the super duper cheap ones. They wouldnt cycle my 1100.

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My SBE II shoots the 2-3/3Ē Xpert 4ís and 6ís very well. Iíve been shooting them for a long time and donít have many cripples. Most of our shots are decoying birds that are 25 yards or less.

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I just shot a teal decoying at 61 yards with patternmaster and rio blue steel nr 3.



Stone cold steve austin dead

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Beaver, what were your decoys doing 61 yards away?? Haha

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Originally Posted By: beaversnipe
I just shot a teal decoying at 61 yards with patternmaster and rio blue steel nr 3.



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Bet that teal thought he was safe at that range until olí sniper put the hammer down.

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Beaver, what were your decoys doing 61 yards away?? Haha


My decoys were at 20 yrds and 40 yrds out
Ducks this late of the season like to land 60 yrds out and swim towards tgem.
Tomorrow i ll set them out at 10 yards
I went 10 times the last 12 days and shot 49 ducks total
Lots of preparation but love it...2 more days till the water will freeze for 7-8 days bang


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Well, shot a box of 2 3/4 of winchester drylock nr 4 this morning.
2 did not fire at all when i had 2 teal locked up.
Its an absolute trash load.

Sticking with heavy metal BB for late season ducks. Best load for me.

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Originally Posted By: beaversnipe
Well, shot a box of 2 3/4 of winchester drylock nr 4 this morning.
2 did not fire at all when i had 2 teal locked up.
Its an absolute trash load.

Sticking with heavy metal BB for late season ducks. Best load for me.



We should have been shooting B.B. as well. Ducks cutting us short as well. Cripples but got them all but one.



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Shooting ducks after X mas with BB is the ticket, always has been and always will be.

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It doesn't matter what brand of steel shot you use when you are shooting them in the face.

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It doesn't matter what brand of steel shot you use when you are shooting them in the face.


yeah, but at 61 yards that face gets a lil small

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It doesn't matter what brand of steel shot you use when you are shooting them in the face.


yeah, but at 61 yards that face gets a lil small


Practice

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It doesn't matter what brand of steel shot you use when you are shooting them in the face.


yeah, but at 61 yards that face gets a lil small


Practice


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