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Set and forget or dial in? #7007386
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There's a thread about a dropped Leupold that got me thinking. How many of us are the old fashioned sight-in and guesstimate drop or not shoot past a certain distance? how many are of the zero, range, set turrets/holdovers for drop/wind and shoot out to whatever distance they're comfortable with?

It's only been (2 years in JAN) since my dad and I switched over from the old school way to the newer methodology. I've had a turreted scope since 2011 and we were all disappointed that the knobs were exposed when it first came in. Now it's a blessing to take most of the guess work out of shots further than the 100yd zero.

Also the poll title, if you noticed it, is just in fun. No harm meant or any superiority or inferiority implied. We're all hunters here and we're all on the same side. Additionally, I'm sure that the dialing in method isn't all that new school, but we're talking specifically in hunting scenarios here, not military or target shooting.

Edit: i forgot to include BDC type reticles, but they are really just a modification to the old school method.

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Re: Set and forget or dial in? [Re: chital_shikari] #7007422
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I can't vote. The situation dictates what I do, dial or hold.

The last few weeks have gone like this:

Hog at 224, hold
Hog at 20, hold
Sounder of hogs 488, dial
Coyote at 300, hold
Hog at 648, dial
Hog at 750, dial



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Re: Set and forget or dial in? [Re: chital_shikari] #7007430
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You are in the dial in category. People in the first do not posses the ability to range/dial, don't make it harder than it is.


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Re: Set and forget or dial in? [Re: FiremanJG] #7007432
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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
I can't vote. The situation dictates what I do, dial or hold.


Same.
I prefer to dial but when I only have seconds and can't range, I just use MPBR.
The last axis I shot, I saw while riding in the mule. He was running up a hill when I rounded a corner. I knew he was within 300 yards so I put it on his shoulder and dropped him. Ranged the shot at 190 afterward.

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Those that are saying they can't vote: do you use tactical scopes and milling reticles or capped scopes with duplex or BDC reticles?

Re: Set and forget or dial in? [Re: chital_shikari] #7007477
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I use a BDC reticle. Voted Set and Forget.

Re: Set and forget or dial in? [Re: SherpaPhil] #7007481
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Originally Posted By: SherpaPhil
I use a BDC reticle. Voted Set and Forget.


Love my Nikon BDC


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Re: Set and forget or dial in? [Re: chital_shikari] #7007507
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When you consider that the largest amount of hunting is from a blind, basically 100 yards. Set and forget will do for almost all hunters and hardly ever a reason to change.
I have a Burris XTRII and can shoot it really good. I have taken it hunting and never dialed it once.



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Re: Set and forget or dial in? [Re: chital_shikari] #7007509
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All I use, for every rifle shot is Mil/Mil scopes.



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Re: Set and forget or dial in? [Re: chital_shikari] #7007516
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I'm new to the nikon bdc. Love it so far. Will get more range time in to make sure the ballistics/hold on their website is correct. If its accurate, then will be ideal hunting scope.

Re: Set and forget or dial in? [Re: chital_shikari] #7007528
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I have or have access to seven center-fire rifles. Currently 3 are dial, 4 are set/forget. Moving towards dial on all, eventually.




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Re: Set and forget or dial in? [Re: Simple Searcher] #7007529
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Originally Posted By: Simple Searcher
When you consider that the largest amount of hunting is from a blind, basically 100 yards. Set and forget will do for almost all hunters and hardly ever a reason to change.
I have a Burris XTRII and can shoot it really good. I have taken it hunting and never dialed it once.
Very true. Even longer range safari style hunting seldom reaches past 300yd, which is doable without dialing. I don't shoot that well but I've also never dialed. But I also don't shoot very far because the need doesn't arise.

Re: Set and forget or dial in? [Re: chital_shikari] #7007536
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I kind of mix old and new......I sight in for dead on at 250yds.

Hold over out to 350 and then dial up over that.

Longest deer shot has been 490yds and a few hogs longer than that.

Re: Set and forget or dial in? [Re: chital_shikari] #7007691
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My max range in creek bottom is 300 yds old school here. River bottom can go 500 but have not shot past about 250 there would like to get dial up shot!


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Re: Set and forget or dial in? [Re: chital_shikari] #7008188
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Im in the same boat as FiremanJG. It all depends on the situation, I can either dial or hold. I use mil/mil scopes on everything but my big guns where I use then MOAR-T reticles from nightforce.

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Re: Set and forget or dial in? [Re: chital_shikari] #7008211
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Set and forget. 1" high at 100 yards.

Re: Set and forget or dial in? [Re: chital_shikari] #7008229
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I sight all of my hunting rifles in at 300 yards. I have found in most cases that you can get within 300 if there is any cover. I shoot a 257wby mainly so out to 400 is still a very doable shot.

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I sight in at 200 dead on. At 300 it's 5" low and at 400 it's 14" low. I just hold a little high, no dialing.


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2.5" high at 100 and forget it.......

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If you understand "point blank range" pertaining to zeroing a scope then the need for a BDC diminishes.

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Mostly I just hold, since iím ĎOní at 200 yards and rarely shoot past 300. Iíll dial to 500, which is where I run out of pasture.

Re: Set and forget or dial in? [Re: snake oil] #7008890
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Originally Posted By: snake oil
2.5" high at 100 and forget it.......


This, run a 25-06 pushing a 115 grain over 3000 fps and hunt East Texas so anything under 300 yards I am good. Can't see any farther than that where I hunt anyway.

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Originally Posted By: Stompy
I sight in at 200 dead on. At 300 it's 5" low and at 400 it's 14" low. I just hold a little high, no dialing.


That's a screamer... What caliber, bullet weight, and velocity? Verified or theoretical drops?

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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
All I use, for every rifle shot is Mil/Mil scopes.
Yes, but from the ops post my thoughts are that you are "new school". Your "hold" is not with a traditional scope but with one of them new fangle scopes.
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So although you can say, correctly, that you hold, your hold isn't like the hold I think he was talking about.

That being said, I've never shot game far enough out to dial because of where I've hunted but I have the scope/s to dial when needed which I will do beyond 150.

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