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Has anyone Hunted Africa #6964087 11/17/17 09:23 PM
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Hey Guys

Has anyone hunted the South Africa area. I'm looking to make a trip next year looking for outfit recommendations. My big three that I want to hunt are Kudu, Gemsbok, and Impala not sure of anything else.

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I can get ya set up with a Kudu, Gemsbok, Impala, Warthog and Blesbok in Limpopo province

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Re: Has anyone Hunted Africa [Re: surfcowboy] #6964130 11/17/17 10:10 PM
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I've hunted both SA and Namibia. I can personally recommend eZulu (SA) and Africa Awaits (Namibia). That said, there are plenty of very good outfitters in both countries. It's my personal opinion that hunting in southern Africa is the best value in hunting today. I've also fished but not hunted with N'Dumo (SA and Namibia) and can recommend them without reservation. The US booking agent for Africa Awaits is High Mountain Hunts, here in Dallas.

http://www.ezulugamereserve.com/
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Re: Has anyone Hunted Africa [Re: surfcowboy] #6964149 11/17/17 10:26 PM
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I have been to Africa 4 times and hunted with 6 different outfitters among those trips. Likely going back in 18. There are a lot of VERY good outfitters as well as some not so good. I can make a number of suggestions should you want to PM me. My first thought is for you to join 2 other forums with lots of African hunting info. The first is africahunting.com. Great friendly environment with a lot of active users. Look at the hunt reports and the hunts offered for deals. The second is the accuratereloading.com forums. This one is a bit rougher. Still some great hunt reports to look through as well as deals that come up regularly. It will not take you long to read some hunt reports and find some of the companies that are really GOOD. Congrats on the decision to go to Africa.
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I have been 4 times to South Africa and Namibia. The three animals you want are common an you should be able to find a great package deal on those three. If you can attend the Dallas Safari Club convention in early January. You will be shocked at how many safari companies there are and just how many different African hunts there are. I have done the tented wilderness hunts as well as the 5 star game farm/lodge hunts. It’s going to boil down to what you want. I think looking for the safari is half the fun. Be forewarned hunting in Africa is very addictive...

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Re: Has anyone Hunted Africa [Re: surfcowboy] #6964317 11/18/17 01:31 AM
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I just posted a thread the other day on my first safari. It is a couple threads down from this one. It has a lot of info in it.


Re: Has anyone Hunted Africa [Re: surfcowboy] #6964426 11/18/17 03:08 AM
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I wish i could go to the shows. The thing is I'm out of the country working. that's why I asked on here. to get the opinions of the guys that have done it.

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Re: Has anyone Hunted Africa [Re: surfcowboy] #6964995 11/18/17 08:44 PM
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Been there 4 times, once to SA, 3 times to Namibia. I'll take Namibia any day over the generally small (except for E Cape) high fence places in SA. Kowas Safaris is second to none.

Re: Has anyone Hunted Africa [Re: surfcowboy] #6965142 11/18/17 11:13 PM
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I've been a couple of times for archery hunts. I can recommend Matlabas Game Hunters, It's an archery hunting reserve though. No guns. But they really know about archery hunting and are set up for it in every way. Great experience. I would go back.

Re: Has anyone Hunted Africa [Re: surfcowboy] #6965315 11/19/17 02:27 AM
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For your first safari I would say South Africa. I have hunted all parts and the eastern cape is the best imho.
Remember you get what you pay for cheaper is not always better especially in SA. Any outfit will get you those species but quality varies.

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Re: Has anyone Hunted Africa [Re: surfcowboy] #6965392 11/19/17 04:00 AM
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Can't go wrong with Limcroma. I took all three of the species you want and several more. Wonderful people made the trip what it was!

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I went last year to Limpopo and am looking to go back in 2019. I chose to book with a US based outfitter that handled everything and went also. It was nice having someone in the states help walk me through everything but I would be fine handling it all next time. I plan to go back with the same outfitter but would like to hunt the Eastern Cape eventually. As mentioned, Africahunting.com is a great resource. You need to figure what is important to you besides the species. Budget, accommodations, trophy quality, size of hunting area, game fencing, and extra flights, distance from airports, and vaccines are things to consider. There's no way around it, it's a long trip to Johannesburg. Many places will require another flight after an overnight stay, which takes more time and money. I would plan on hunting at least 7 days.

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The main two countries for those animals are South Africa and Namibia. While you can get monsters in each country, Namibia is going to have a lot more really good kudu and gemsbok then South Africa. I know that some guys will disagree with me on this, but having been to both countries, meeting dozens of outfitters from both countries, hanging out as SCI with dozens of outfitters from there, I feel that I'm on pretty solid ground recommending Namibia over South Africa.

When I went, I went with Peter Clausen of Okosongoro http://okosongoro.com/game-hunting-safari-namibia/

They had around 30,000 acres high fenced, and another 45,000 acres low fenced. I shot my 52 inch kudu on the low fence land on the 4th or 5th day and saw a 56 inch bull a couple days later on more of the low fenced land. I shot my 35 inch gemsbok on the last day after working really hard on a 42 inch bull that was just unbelievable to see, even if we only saw him for seconds at a time. My buddy shot a 38 inch bull on the first day, and we saw dozens that would be right at or just under 40 inches.

Since going, I know of 4 friends who also went there and did really well. One went back every other year until he passed away last year.

At SCI, we would all go out to dinner together with half a dozen other Namibia outfitters. They all know each other, and they all seem to be good friends. Most of them do not own the land they hunt on, but Peter does. His grandfather started the ranch and it's been handed down to him from his father. From what I've seen and those I've gotten to know, they are all great guys and you probably wouldn't have a bad hunt with any of them. If you chose somebody other then Peter, just be sure that they have been around awhile and it's not some new startup. I think that's where people get into trouble.


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Re: Has anyone Hunted Africa [Re: surfcowboy] #6965788 11/19/17 07:27 PM
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Just DONT go with or use BARRY BURCHELL (Fronteir Safaris). Wont go into details (too long) but google his name if you want to know why I'm saying NOT to use him! I'm one that got burned by him. Get's my blood pumping every year at DSC when I STILL see his booth after knowing how he has screwed so many hunters! And now I see he has Craig Boddington supporting him. Guess ol' Boddington just needs a FREE hunt and he'll do or say anything for you.

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Have been on at least a dozen African Safaris - taken just about all of Southern African Plainsgame and quite a few DG. But there is nothing like the excitement of a first safari - everything is on the menu. You’re already doing few things right. First, decide on the highly desired species. It always worked best for me to the choose the hunting method, and the area that offer the best trophy quality for those species. Finally get advise on Safari Operators from folks who have been a bunch of times with different outfitters. For the game you listed I’d recommend either Namibia or the Limpopo Province (biggest Kudu and Impala in RSA). There are many quality outfitters with their own land and camps, but others who just buy quota from others.
I can recommend Dumukwa Safaris in South Africa and Namibia Safari Company without hesitation.

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Five trips over there so far, to Namibia, RSA, and Zimbabwe. Most of the plains game (except sable and roan), and elephant, buffalo, and leopard of the DG.

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thanks guys for all your input. Now i've got a lot to think about.

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I worked in Africa for 4 years and during that time I made several trips on safari each year, sometimes hopping from country to country, and/or outfitter to outfitter. I often hunted as much as 40 days straight and 50+ days per quarter. During this time I visited many different properties and got to know a lot of PH's who helped me to learn a lot about hunting the dark continent and all of the many different things that make it such a unique experience.

Of all my trips, none stand out more than the ones I made with Bossie Mostart of LBGS in South African. The abundance of huntable game and the variety of species found in the Limpopo province is unparalleled by anywhere else I've hunted. Bossie's knowledge of his hunting areas and his enthusiasm for the hunt are only surpassed by his willingness to listen to what you seek in a safari and work hard to deliver on your requests.

Bossie has some very nice packages posted here in multiple threads, and will customize a package for you if you wish. He's easy to work with and even more fun to hunt with. I plan to return next year to take advantage of some newly acquired hunting properties and I can assist you with any booking/payment needs.

http://texashuntingforum.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/6927688/1

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Go join africahunting.com.


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I hunted SA Nov 1-10 this year. Mike Jones with Ka Maoto Safaris is an awesome booking agent and will walk you through step by step from booking the flight, to gun paperwork, to anything else. I experiances a good from start to finish. Look him up on Facebook.

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Originally Posted By: postoak
Go join africahunting.com.


This is a good source for information and research, but not so much on good prices. Sometimes there are some great deal over there on last minute hunts, but if you are looking for a deal, you have to know your prices. It's kind of like going to an auction and after buying something used, learning that you paid more then if you had bought it brand new.

Something else to think about when looking for an outfitter is what type of experience to you want to have? There are family own farms where you stay with the owners of the farm, eat with them, and hunt with them on their land. You are the only hunter there. You get to know the area, visit with their neighbors and go to town with them if you want. This is what I like. My wife and I spent the middle of a day during our hunt watching out outfitters son play in a rugby match in South Africa. After getting all of our animals, we drove off to the beach and had an amazing time finding seashells. It's not just the getting your trophies, it's about having fun and experiencing as much as possible while you are there.

Some outfitters have a nice camp, but very little land, so they hunt all over the place depending on what you want. This can be fun too, but you should know this before booking the hunt.

Then there are the big name operations where you stay at a lodge with other hunters and you are assigned a guide. His job is to take care of you and get you your animals. You never know who else will be there, or how many people you will be dealing with who also want the same animals that you do. If they have bratty kids, an annoying spouse or the other hunters are just not who you want to hang out with.

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Originally Posted By: EddieWalker
...or the other hunters are just not who you want to hang out with.



The more money you spend on a hunt, the greater the chance you're gonna meet some eccentric, and sometimes plain weird, other hunters. 'Goes for here, in the States too.


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You must be talking about the people that spend 10K for two days of hunting to shot one whitetail deer.


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...or the other hunters are just not who you want to hang out with.



The more money you spend on a hunt, the greater the chance you're gonna meet some eccentric, and sometimes plain weird, other hunters. 'Goes for here, in the States too.

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Have been 5 times. Lots of good suggestions here.
South Africa- a mix of "smaller" high fence put and take operations (kinda like trout fishing where they stock the lake, you catch the fish and they stock some more). You still have to hunt then however to large free range operations. Some are like caribou hunts with many hunters in camp to "your the only hunter there" (what we like). You can have great hunts for a good price on high fence just be sure nothing is smaller than 5000 acres as an absolute bottom size.

Namibia- "mainly" wide open spaces mostly free range, what walks through or is local is hunted. We like Namibia the best but have had great hunts in SA.
Africahunting.com has some great folks on the board. accuratereloading can get real "rough" in the replys.

Plan on hunting more animals than you think you will. I went the first time wanting 8 and came home with 13! Bring extra money (no cashiers checks anymore and remember the $10,000 limit with Customs unless you declare it)

Taxidermy can be as much as your hunt. Think about it real well. Good pictures or even white skulls can be god alternatives. Think ahead, where ya gonna put all those heads? My problem now with 30+.

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I made sure with my outfitter that I could pay with plastic when I went. His wife has a business in town that accepts credit and debit cards. There was nothing at the ranch.

My Debit card has a limit on it, so I used my Visa card to pay my bill and then paid it off when I got home. Just be sure to tell you card company that you will be out of the country, and what country you will be using your card in so it doesn't get flagged as fraud. I also told them to expect a large charge to the card on the last day that I would be there. I did have some cash with me for tips and shopping. I think it was around $2,000 cash.



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