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I shot a deer .. i mean an ELK?! #6959729
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Someone needs to pay a little more attention at what she is shooting at..

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati...deer/860605001/

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Interesting read. I'm not sure where I stand on this. She should not have shot anything that she wasn't sure what it was, but having met enough people out there that think everything is either a deer or a moose, I can see where a young girl who is hunting in an area that is not supposed to have elk in it could make this mistake. I also really admire her dad for calling the Game Wardens right away. To me, that's the most important part of the story.

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What EW said +1...just do not understand why the young Huntress has to surrender the critter to the State Game Rangers to distribute as THEY PLEASE ....."IF" .....she does not want to ....and without any coersion from the State Officials...and OBTW ....IMO the Antlers are hers too....WHAT a Trophy !!!!

Possesion is 9 points of the law and unless the Elk is a prohibited animal in that State, or belongs to someone else and was shot illegally, which apparently none of these issures are being claimed...yadda yadda.
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"Missouri has no hunting season for elk" - Sounds like they're reintroducing them to some parts of the state and it's not an "exotics" issue where you can just shoot them any time. I don't think she's in trouble, just didn't get to keep it.

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Originally Posted By: WileyCoyote
What EW said +1...just do not understand why the young Huntress has to surrender the critter to the State Game Rangers to distribute as THEY PLEASE ....."IF" .....she does not want to ....and without any coersion from the State Officials...and OBTW ....IMO the Antlers are hers too....WHAT a Trophy !!!!

Possesion is 9 points of the law and unless the Elk is a prohibited animal in that State, or belongs to someone else and was shot illegally, which apparently none of these issures are being claimed...yadda yadda.
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Seems to me that they probably arenít supposed to be shooting elk. If thatís the case, I think they did it right. No need to make things hard on her, but she canít keep it. Then everyone would be shooting them and calling the game warden.


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Originally Posted By: EddieWalker
Interesting read. I'm not sure where I stand on this. She should not have shot anything that she wasn't sure what it was, but having met enough people out there that think everything is either a deer or a moose, I can see where a young girl who is hunting in an area that is not supposed to have elk in it could make this mistake. I also really admire her dad for calling the Game Wardens right away. To me, that's the most important part of the story.


+1. Iím sure they are not legal to shoot in MO. Thus, the outcome - which seems very reasonable to me.


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If she is not in trouble, she should be able to keep the meat. It's bogus to take it from her and give it to someone else.


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If she is not in trouble, she should be able to keep the meat. It's bogus to take it from her and give it to someone else.


So, youíd rather she be in trouble?


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Whether they take enforcement action against her or not, the elk was killed illegally. You can't expect to keep the meat from an illegally killed animal. It sounds to me like the action they took is more than reasonable. I would expect to lose my rifle, get some hefty fines, and lose the meat and antlers in that situation. Kudos to the dad for doing the right thing even though he knew they might get into trouble.
It sounds like this young lady needs a little more time hunting with dad. If she's shooting at brown patches and doesn't know the difference between a deer and an elk, she probably isn't ready to hunt by herself.


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Originally Posted By: Sneaky
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If she is not in trouble, she should be able to keep the meat. It's bogus to take it from her and give it to someone else.


So, youíd rather she be in trouble?


Right, the animal was shot illegally. She doesn't get the meat. She doesn't get the antlers. It was an illegal kill. That the state isn't giving her and/or her father a citation is by the grace of the state.


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If she is not in trouble, she should be able to keep the meat. It's bogus to take it from her and give it to someone else.


So, youíd rather she be in trouble?


Right, the animal was shot illegally. She doesn't get the meat. She doesn't get the antlers. It was an illegal kill. That the state isn't giving her and/or her father a citation is by the grace of the state.
I agree. I actually believe that the state has handled this about as well as it could.

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If she is not in trouble, she should be able to keep the meat. It's bogus to take it from her and give it to someone else.


So, youíd rather she be in trouble?


Right, the animal was shot illegally. She doesn't get the meat. She doesn't get the antlers. It was an illegal kill. That the state isn't giving her and/or her father a citation is by the grace of the state.
I agree. I actually believe that the state has handled this about as well as it could.
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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
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Interesting read. I'm not sure where I stand on this. She should not have shot anything that she wasn't sure what it was, but having met enough people out there that think everything is either a deer or a moose, I can see where a young girl who is hunting in an area that is not supposed to have elk in it could make this mistake. I also really admire her dad for calling the Game Wardens right away. To me, that's the most important part of the story.


+1. Iím sure they are not legal to shoot in MO. Thus, the outcome - which seems very reasonable to me.
Me too. She got off easy...On a side note, possession is NOT 9/10 of the law. Tell that to the judge and watch him laugh as they escort you to the slammer.


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Interesting read. I'm not sure where I stand on this. She should not have shot anything that she wasn't sure what it was, but having met enough people out there that think everything is either a deer or a moose, I can see where a young girl who is hunting in an area that is not supposed to have elk in it could make this mistake. I also really admire her dad for calling the Game Wardens right away. To me, that's the most important part of the story.


+1. Iím sure they are not legal to shoot in MO. Thus, the outcome - which seems very reasonable to me.
Me too. She got off easy...On a side note, possession is NOT 9/10 of the law. Tell that to the judge and watch him laugh as they escort you to the slammer.


Not really....the public and media are roasting her and calling for a big fine and charging her. I don't know if it was Missouri GW or who called in the press, but that was the worse thing that could happen with all the haters out there.


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There's no elk season it Texas, either. If an elk walks in I can't shoot it?


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Originally Posted By: Slow Drifter
There's no elk season it Texas, either. If an elk walks in I can't shoot it?


In Texas you can.


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To be quite honest, this does not surprise me. We have lots of hunting accidents that occur. Hunters shooting hunters, people shooting dogs by mistaking them for coyotes or wolves, shooting horses on provincial grazing reserves, there was a recent caribou shot here and a big investigation going on. Now there were over 90 geese dumped into the ditch. Oh and few people shoot grizzly bears thinking that it was a black bear with brown fur.

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There's no elk season it Texas, either. If an elk walks in I can't shoot it?


In Texas you can.


OK, so if there's no season, and it's not protected, why did they take this girl's animal?


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There's no elk season it Texas, either. If an elk walks in I can't shoot it?


In Texas you can.


OK, so if there's no season, and it's not protected, why did they take this girl's animal?


From what I've read, their laws are completely different. If an animal is not specifically listed for that area, you can't kill it. It's the opposite principle here.


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There's no elk season it Texas, either. If an elk walks in I can't shoot it?


In Texas you can.


OK, so if there's no season, and it's not protected, why did they take this girl's animal?


This didnít happen in Texas.


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My take away is the girl obviously was not ready to be turned loose to hunt on her own. People shooting things without a positive I. D. is how tragic accidents happen, and things that you don't want shot get shot. For that reason in my opinion she should be ticketed. The father has my utmost respect, teaching his daughter to face her mistakes head up and put them behind her. He more than likely expected a ticket when he made the call. Sometimes teenagers do some pretty dumb stuff.


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There's no elk season it Texas, either. If an elk walks in I can't shoot it?


In Texas you can.


OK, so if there's no season, and it's not protected, why did they take this girl's animal?


It is protected Missouri. They are actually trying to build up a viable hunting population for elk. You are confusing Texas law with Missouri law.


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I've been seeing this blow up all over social media.
Many people on all sides (Pro-Hunter, Anti-Hunter, and those that are neither) are criticizing her.
I'm sick of it already.


All I'm going to say:
It was an honest mistake.
She and her dad admitted to it, and even called immediately to notify about it.
They both owned up to it.


How often do you see something like that?
That just shows there's still good honest people out there.

And in these times when everyone is running their mouths as if they're Holier than Thou, need to eat their pride and stop pretending they're perfect.


So I applaud the girl, not because she's a hunter, but because she knew she made a mistake and admitted to it.
And she owned up to it, not under duress or under oath, but immediately and dutifully.

So good for her dad doing the right thing and teaching his daughter good morals and ethics.


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Huh, I don't see anywhere that the girl called the came warden to report the illegal kill. The dad did by all accounts. She didn't send the game warden a picture. The dad did.

So, the girl didn't really admit her mistake so much as the dad identified it and called the game warden. She didn't have a lot of choice on whether or not her dad called to report the incident.


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Originally Posted By: AdanV
I've been seeing this blow up all over social media.
Many people on all sides (Pro-Hunter, Anti-Hunter, and those that are neither) are criticizing her.
I'm sick of it already.


All I'm going to say:
It was an honest mistake.
She and her dad admitted to it, and even called immediately to notify about it.
They both owned up to it.


How often do you see something like that?
That just shows there's still good honest people out there.

And in these times when everyone is running their mouths as if they're Holier than Thou, need to eat their pride and stop pretending they're perfect.


So I applaud the girl, not because she's a hunter, but because she knew she made a mistake and admitted to it.
And she owned up to it, not under duress or under oath, but immediately and dutifully.

So good for her dad doing the right thing and teaching his daughter good morals and ethics.


Dad made the biggest mistake, He also taught her how to handle that mistake, He is willing to pay fines..., they are learning lessons, this is what we call upstanding citizens. Good one for the young lady.


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