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Ruger M77 sight in question
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10/30/17 01:23 AM
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GusWayne
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I haven't shot this gun in...5 years maybe 6-7
So it's been in the safe 99 percent of that time and I believed it still be sighted in
So this evening, I take it to my parents to sight it.
I didn't have a lot of time
3 shot group at 100 yards went...
1 shot-1" low and 1" to the right 2 shot-1" low and 1" to the left 3 shot-1" low and 1/2" to the right
I have a VX1 as glass
I am not an expert but I am guessing this is 2 moa?
Is that about realistically what it should be getting?
Not claiming to be 1" shooter at 500 yards guy just wondering
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Re: Ruger M77 sight in question
[Re: GusWayne]
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10/30/17 01:29 AM
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What you described is what I consider a normal hunting rifle type of group. 90% of deer hunters cant shoot MOA even if their rifles can. 90% of hunters will tell you they can though. Just go to a public shooting range and look at the targets posted down range. They will make the group you described look great!
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Re: Ruger M77 sight in question
[Re: GusWayne]
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10/30/17 01:31 AM
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What did it shoot before? Rugers 77s will shoot MOAish but they usually need a little bedding and trigger work. I have 4 of them.
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Re: Ruger M77 sight in question
[Re: GusWayne]
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10/30/17 01:42 AM
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I put a Timney trigger in it about 10 years ago. Set at 3.5 lbs
It's a .270 btw
I was shooting off a cattle trough.
I didn't fee like I pulled any but was wondering is that about what it should shoot for a normal shooter
Shooting Winchester Supremes, prob a 10 year old box
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Re: Ruger M77 sight in question
[Re: GusWayne]
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10/30/17 01:44 AM
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Rugers can typically do better but they aint going to win many accuracy contests. That's coming from a big Ruger fan too.
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Re: Ruger M77 sight in question
[Re: GusWayne]
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10/30/17 01:46 AM
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Get a better rest, try different ammo.
A $5000 rifle will shoot like crap, using ammo it doesn't like.
A $500 rifle can shoot terrific using ammo specifically tuned to it.
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Re: Ruger M77 sight in question
[Re: JCB]
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10/30/17 01:47 AM
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Rugers can typically do better but they aint going to win many accuracy contests. That's coming from a big Ruger fan too. Ok thanks, I've always liked Rugers too
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Re: Ruger M77 sight in question
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10/30/17 01:50 AM
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Get a better rest, try different ammo.
A $5000 rifle will shoot like crap, using ammo it doesn't like.
A $500 rifle can shoot terrific using ammo specifically tuned to it. Thanks JG, I don't ever imagine a shot coming from more than 200 yards max. Just shooting a deer once every few years deal.
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Re: Ruger M77 sight in question
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10/30/17 02:25 AM
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Rugers will shoot. Just find the right ammo that your particular gun likes. Good trigger control and adequate rest. Factory 270 Ruger M77 with Hornady 140 gr SST Superformance
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Re: Ruger M77 sight in question
[Re: GusWayne]
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10/30/17 02:34 AM
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Get a better rest, try different ammo.
A $5000 rifle will shoot like crap, using ammo it doesn't like.
A $500 rifle can shoot terrific using ammo specifically tuned to it. Thanks JG, I don't ever imagine a shot coming from more than 200 yards max. Just shooting a deer once every few years deal. Understood. Yet, the way it's shooting right now. Your zero is low. At 200 yards, it'll shoot somewhere inside 10".
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Re: Ruger M77 sight in question
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11/06/17 01:22 AM
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Get some fresh ammo and shoot from a real rest! Over a water trough you are shooting very well I say.
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Re: Ruger M77 sight in question
[Re: GusWayne]
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11/06/17 02:03 AM
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My Ruger will shoot like >2 MOA lighter ammo. I get a little heavier and I get 1-1.5 ish.
Perfectly acceptable for me. It will kill deer or elk out to 300 easy if I could shoot that well. They make some bad ones, but most are pretty decent.
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Re: Ruger M77 sight in question
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11/09/17 02:03 PM
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I am a Ruger fan and while I have owned rifles costing 4-5X what my Rugers do, they always do what I need them too...... This is my M77 MKII stainless .270win with 140gr Hornady BTSP at the range a couple weeks ago when I sighted in. Leupold VariXIII 3.5-10x40 - I will say the trigger was replaced with a Timney and the stock with a Hogue; but before I replaced those parts this rifle was still accurate. What I'm trying to say is that your group is about normal for a stock Ruger 77 but they can be much better; and I would feel more than comfortable hunting with your rifle.....after all if you don't like it just sell it to me.
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Re: Ruger M77 sight in question
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11/09/17 03:40 PM
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It’s interesting that a couple of you guys got great accuracy from the 140’s in the 270. When my Dad passed on a few years back, I got his rifle to give it a good cleaning, rescoped it, and decided to pass it along to his favorite grandson. And, since I had a bunch of unused 140 gr Sierra HPBT bullets, I loaded them up to see what they’d do. The rifle is an old tang safety M77 Ultralight, and it grouped those bullets amazingly well. I was amazed.
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Re: Ruger M77 sight in question
[Re: GusWayne]
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11/09/17 06:12 PM
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I haven't shot this gun in...5 years maybe 6-7
So it's been in the safe 99 percent of that time and I believed it still be sighted in
So this evening, I take it to my parents to sight it.
I didn't have a lot of time
3 shot group at 100 yards went...
1 shot-1" low and 1" to the right 2 shot-1" low and 1" to the left 3 shot-1" low and 1/2" to the right
I have a VX1 as glass
I am not an expert but I am guessing this is 2 moa?
Is that about realistically what it should be getting?
Not claiming to be 1" shooter at 500 yards guy just wondering
[color:#FF0000][/color] Same point of impact on the vertical axis but stringing left to right sounds like you have a trigger control issue. Probably a combination in your case of not using a good rest and heavy factory trigger. Wouldn't worry about it a whole lot.
Shoot. Eat. Repeat.
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Re: Ruger M77 sight in question
[Re: 603Country]
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11/10/17 03:53 AM
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It’s interesting that a couple of you guys got great accuracy from the 140’s in the 270. When my Dad passed on a few years back, I got his rifle to give it a good cleaning, rescoped it, and decided to pass it along to his favorite grandson. And, since I had a bunch of unused 140 gr Sierra HPBT bullets, I loaded them up to see what they’d do. The rifle is an old tang safety M77 Ultralight, and it grouped those bullets amazingly well. I was amazed. Mine has shot well with just about every bullet EXCEPT 140gr Hornady SST, I don't know what it is but they shoot baseball sized groups. It loves the 140gr Interlock BTSP as well as the 140gr Nosler ballistic tip and accubond.
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