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Headed down that way this winter for the first time hunting the border. Just curious what experiences others have had? I've worked down south but never further than Alice to Cotulla. This will be first time stomping around the brush. I'll be west of Raymondville and way south of Ozona.


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Not just the illegals you got to watch for.


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Originally Posted By: hook_n_line
Not just the illegals you got to watch for.


How do you mean?


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I have never hunted right on the river but I did have a lease near Batesville for several years. When we got the lease the rancher told us to never leave camp without a firearm, never leave our camper or truck unlocked and if possible never confront an illegal. We never saw any illegals but they did break in to our camper and tore it up.

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Not just the illegals you got to watch for.


How do you mean?


Even the people here legally can be a problem. Had some guys (not illegals, pipeline workers) hunting at the end of the season who thought all the regulars were gone. They got caught in the stand. Apparently one was a felon in possession of a firearm. Could have gone wrong quick.

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Goodluck and be safe down there. Stick your barrel in your stand first.

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I can tell you that in our area of NE Webb County, which is very remote, we've had multiple encounters. Don't leave your house or your vehicles unlocked and ALWAYS take the keys with you. Don't leave weapons unsecured, especially in the pasture. Don't leave anything like knives, machetes, etc. laying out for easy access. We've never had a "problem" but last Saturday evening at 8:30, I had three bad hombres from the Dominican Republic come walking into camp. First group I've encountered that really had me nervous. Also, don't go anywhere without a sidearm for quick, up close encounters. Always have a phone on your person that works and in it have the number for the County Sheriff and Border Patrol. Know how to drop a GPS pin from your phone so LE can get to you more quickly.

Have the GPS coordinates for your camp area in your phone, too. Also a good idea to GPS all your stands and feeders plus other notable landmarks on the property.

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I used to hunt close to eagle pass. One day I stopped to open a gate, heard a noise and turned around. there were 8 illegals in the back of my truck. I grabbed my sidearm and they all ran. They were gone as fast as they showed up. I have never had a really bad experience with them. I always figured most were trying to find work to feed their families, however, I never encountered a drug mule in my time there. I have been told that is a different story.


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Originally Posted By: phantom
I used to hunt close to eagle pass. One day I stopped to open a gate, heard a noise and turned around. there were 8 illegals in the back of my truck. I grabbed my sidearm and they all ran. They were gone as fast as they showed up. I have never had a really bad experience with them. I always figured most were trying to find work to feed their families, however, I never encountered a drug mule in my time there. I have been told that is a different story.


They prolly followed directions to were a hand was picking them up to take them further north.. herd of similar pick up points like that... you just happen to fit the description lol

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Originally Posted By: Brian C.
Sound advice fouzman.

Indeed. I have a good friend whose father was killed by illegals on their ranch near Laredo. He asked us to always carry a side arm while on their place, his dad didn't.



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I've had many encounters with illegals on our family places in southwest Texas but have been fortunate to never have a bad one. The vast majority are working/suffering to feed their families and are usually just hungry. But I guess all you need to find is one bad apple for your day to go very badly.

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It's been my experience that the farther they get from the border the less aggressive they become. The guys who just crossed are normally still full of energy. Once they make it through that brush country they are a worn down and have a lot less fight. Webb county vs Edwards county for example. Guys crossing in Webb are looking to leave that country quick and will steal your car or truck. By they time they get to Edwards county (walking, crawling) they just want something to eat and drink.


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Originally Posted By: hook_n_line
It's been my experience that the farther they get from the border the less aggressive they become. The guys who just crossed are normally still full of energy. Once they make it through that brush country they are a worn down and have a lot less fight. Webb county vs Edwards county for example. Guys crossing in Webb are looking to leave that country quick and will steal your car or truck. By they time they get to Edwards county (walking, crawling) they just want something to eat and drink.


Ha. That's interesting. I've always encountered them in Edwards or Sutton County, so maybe that explains it. They've always been just hungry/thirsty or cold. Maybe wanting some work. When we've had break-ins, it was to get canned goods, and they'd usually leave the place as good as they found it.

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It's been my experience that the farther they get from the border the less aggressive they become. The guys who just crossed are normally still full of energy. Once they make it through that brush country they are a worn down and have a lot less fight. Webb county vs Edwards county for example. Guys crossing in Webb are looking to leave that country quick and will steal your car or truck. By they time they get to Edwards county (walking, crawling) they just want something to eat and drink.


Ha. That's interesting. I've always encountered them in Edwards or Sutton County, so maybe that explains it. They've always been just hungry/thirsty or cold. Maybe wanting some work. When we've had break-ins, it was to get canned goods, and they'd usually leave the place as good as they found it.


Yes sir. We used to just leave our doors unlocked with water and food in Edwards County. In Webb they have to climb over a 10' fence with razor wire to get anything.


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It's been my experience that the farther they get from the border the less aggressive they become. The guys who just crossed are normally still full of energy. Once they make it through that brush country they are a worn down and have a lot less fight. Webb county vs Edwards county for example. Guys crossing in Webb are looking to leave that country quick and will steal your car or truck. By they time they get to Edwards county (walking, crawling) they just want something to eat and drink.


Ha. That's interesting. I've always encountered them in Edwards or Sutton County, so maybe that explains it. They've always been just hungry/thirsty or cold. Maybe wanting some work. When we've had break-ins, it was to get canned goods, and they'd usually leave the place as good as they found it.


Yes sir. We used to just leave our doors unlocked with water and food in Edwards County. In Webb they have to climb over a 10' fence with razor wire to get anything.


That's what we do - leave it unlocked, or just leave some food out on the porch.

Re: South Texas Border Illegals [Re: Brian C.] #6925896
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I've hunted the same Webb Co ranch since 1981, and can't even try to figure out the number of encounters. In the last 10 years I've taken the approach that I leave them alone, they leave me alone, but doesn't mean I'm not prepared if one decides to take it to the next level. Camps stay unlocked when not there but I do lock everything while I'm there. I do tend to believe that anyone coming across does not want to add any extra attention to what they are doing.

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I have a family ranch in Carrizo Springs, in Dimmit County. Can't tell you how many hundreds of backpacks we've found and how many hunts have been ruined when illegals are running through, with BP not far behind. As other have said, always have a side arm, and have it visible. Watch your 6. Have your phone on you with the local BP number already programmed in. I have three agents cell's stored in my phone.

I actually bought my two friend and I some official BP hats this year to wear while on the ranch. Overkill...probably. But after my buddy was approached by 6 bad hombres carrying square bailed backpacks demanding he give them water, while aggressively moving closer (until he pulled out his pistol), I'm doing all I can to be cautious. If my family is there with me and I go hunting in the morning, I lock up the doors on my way out. Always. I always walk with a flashlight in one hand and a pistol in the other when going to or leaving the blinds in the dark. Also, we've found quite a few illegals taking naps or an overnight siesta in our deer blinds. Be cautious when entering. Not that they would attack you, but that can be very scary for both parties early in the morning when it is dark out. Lock your vehicles and keep the keys with you.

I also tell the Border patrol station (located in Carrizo Springs) when I am going to be hunting sometimes. I have set off so many thermal or video sensors when walking around the ranch, and the BP comes hauling butt into the ranch thinking my buddies and I are "bodies," as the BP terms the illegals. many hunts have been ruined that way, unfortunately. Sometimes the agents will actually call to make sure it isn't us setting off the sensors. They have called me at 5:30am and asked if I am on a particular part of the ranch. If I say no, they know they have illegals moving through and they'll head out to find them.

I once turned down a road in the back of our ranch at 5am and saw brake lights light up and drive off quickly. I started driving towards the vehicle, nervously, to see what was going on. The truck quickly turned around and they threw on the high beams. I threw mine back on in response. That's when I got very really nervous. We both rolled up to one another and of course I had my .45 in my hand. It was an unmarked BP truck. The officer said a group of 25 were headed towards out ranch. I hunted the opposite side that morning. I was so tired that morning, but that exchange woke me up like I had just chugged a pot of coffee. Very uneasy feeling to know someone is on your ranch when you are the only one supposed to be there.

Bottom line, stay alert and stay safe. Most illegals just want to find a better life over here. Some are here to traffic drugs or people. Those folks do not want to be caught. I've heard some sad tales of people being hurt, robbed and even killed on their ranches. Most illegals will just try to hide and not approach you. But if they are desperate and tired and not thinking clearly, you need to be.

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A lot of it depends on where you are located. If you have a small deer camp out in the middle of nowhere, it's easy for them to look around and see there isn't much there for them to bother with, or have to carry, other than you leaving food/water out for them.
If your camp looks to be well stocked, and along a major travel route, then you could be looking at some pretty bold break ins. They can steal and take most of what you have, and be on the road in short order.
No reason to be afraid, just be alert!

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That's what was weird about the three Dominicans that came into camp last Saturday, George. They weren't carrying anything. No water, no food, no nothing. But they were very aggressive about wanting one of our vehicles until they saw that I was armed. I fed them, let them bathe with the water hose, gave them some beer and some more food and water to take with them, even though I new they weren't going to be there that long since the wife was locked in the back bedroom talking to BP. I was just trying to keep them calm (and there) until BP arrived. First time I've encountered illegals who really made me uneasy. Two of the three were BIG and all three were very muscled up. I'll bet there is some dope stashed outside the gate somewhere.

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That's what was weird about the three Dominicans that came into camp last Saturday, George. They weren't carrying anything. No water, no food, no nothing. But they were very aggressive about wanting one of our vehicles until they saw that I was armed. I fed them, let them bathe with the water hose, gave them some beer and some more food and water to take with them, even though I new they weren't going to be there that long since the wife was locked in the back bedroom talking to BP. I was just trying to keep them calm (and there) until BP arrived. First time I've encountered illegals who really made me uneasy. Two of the three were BIG and all three were very muscled up. I'll bet there is some dope stashed outside the gate somewhere.


Glad you kept a cool head and a good plan. Definitely some full bags of something nearby! Not many travel empty handed. Only times I see them empty handed is when they've changed into their second pair of clothes and ditched the backpacks to be on the route to the pick up point. 3 muscular dudes are carry weight and they would love to have a vehicle! They have a big payday ahead of them or a price on their heads if they don't deliver the goods.

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Update. Two are in the hands of ICE awaiting a plane ride back to the eastern Caribbean. One played brush lawyer and claimed asylum under 'reasonable fear' of being returned. Probably the coyote who's in a world of trouble from whence he came. He's gonna sit in jail until his case comes up and get deported, then. BP says he has no proof of reasonable fear. Could be our guest for up to a year mad

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