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Helion vs Quantum brightness #6922831
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I've been reading that the white status bar at the bottom right and the record icon on the top left are bright and distracting. I've also read, and would like to confirm, that the brightness of those two objects can not be adjusted with the Helions but can with the Quantums. Apparently in older Pulsar units the status bar was blue rather than white and was less of an issue. It is now white.

It would be nice to have an option to switch to a full screen with no distracting objects on it. This may sway my decision to a Quantum if true.

Does anyone know if the status bar and record icons can be have their brightness reduced with the Helions and Quantum models?

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The brightness on both adjusts the whole screen. I don't find the helion to be distractingly bright.



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Re: Helion vs Quantum brightness [Re: wiiawiwb] #6924892
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I haven't noticed it either.


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Re: Helion vs Quantum brightness [Re: wiiawiwb] #6925422
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I've been reading where some people are really put off by the brightness of the status bar in particular on the new Helions. These are the type of nuances I'd like to know in advance before buying particularly due to the lofty price point we're talking about for thermal equipment.

It just seems so easy for any manufacturer to have a setting that can be turned on so no objects appear on the screen and you can simply focus on the activity on screen without distracton.

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Where did you read people were put of by the “brightness of status bar”? Ive literally heard zero people complain about that. You can rent just about all of it now. If you’re worried about buying wrong gear, rent them both and see what you like better. I’ve had both. Helion wins hands down. But that’s my opinion

Re: Helion vs Quantum brightness [Re: wiiawiwb] #6925543
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On this thread at nightvisionforumuk.com

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Re: Helion vs Quantum brightness [Re: wiiawiwb] #6925580
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Well I stand corrected. All I can say is it’s never bothered me . If you’re anywhere near college station, your welcome to take a look at mine. But don’t have the quantum anymore so can’t do side by side comp

Re: Helion vs Quantum brightness [Re: wiiawiwb] #6925842
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Paralysis Analysis

If your distracted by a status bar then cognitively you're not focused on the hunt.

Get on with it and spend that money - the image of either unit will be the primary function


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Re: Helion vs Quantum brightness [Re: wiiawiwb] #6926355
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I would beg to differ. There is not one thing in your post above that I agree with. I've had no opportunity to use any night vision equipment and there are no places within a 4-5 hour drive that carry any. Renting, while an option, is an expensive one. $160/day are the rates I've seen. To quote a famous saying, "I don't know what I don't know." I'm trying to narrow that knowledge gap.

It wouldn't be any different than you buying a high-end rifle without ever having seen or used any firearm in your life. Your very first firearm that you'll drop $2,500+. I suspect in that case, you'd err on the side of caution to be sure you've made a well-informed decision before parting with your hard-earned money.

In the alternative, maybe you're comfortable making a decision, not having gathered all of the facts, moving forward, and living with that decision. That's fine for you and I would have no problem with it. That isn't how I do things and you should be fine with that as well.

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Re: Helion vs Quantum brightness [Re: wiiawiwb] #6926490
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You are absolutely right. I'm just trying to give myself the best odds I can.

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Odds are the status bar on the Pulsar isn't going to distract you


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Re: Helion vs Quantum brightness [Re: wiiawiwb] #6928506
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The quantum lite is a lot less expensive. Might risk it on that one if you're concerned about the helion. I'd be willing to bet you won't be distracted by anything in any of the pulsar units.



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Re: Helion vs Quantum brightness [Re: Pig_Popper] #6929195
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Originally Posted By: Pig_Popper
Paralysis Analysis

If your distracted by a status bar then cognitively you're not focused on the hunt.

Get on with it and spend that money - the image of either unit will be the primary function


Sorry, but I agree with the Popper... you want to see at night, spend what you can afford. You'll be richly rewarded.


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Re: Helion vs Quantum brightness [Re: wiiawiwb] #6930151
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Originally Posted By: wiiawiwb
You are absolutely right. I'm just trying to give myself the best odds I can.


You are getting advice from people that have alot of experience with thermal and you dismiss them because they don't agree with you?

You have to pay to play in the thermal game. Any of us could nit pic because of the overall cost. It sounds to me like you would be better off to wait a few more years until the price point gets much lower. up


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Re: Helion vs Quantum brightness [Re: wiiawiwb] #6932061
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Huh? I posted here because I do value the opinions and experience of those on this forum. Where is heaven's name do you think I am dismissing anyone's opinion.

I think we can all agree that the cost of any thermal unit involves a substantial sum of money. Perhaps for some, the most expensive unit is a nominal sum written from petty cash while for others the least expensive must be planned for and saved in order to buy. In either event, I dismiss no one's advice and am thankful for every response.

In the end, it's my wallet that must bear the cost and weight the benefit. With all due respect, I don't appreciate the insulting tenor of your post.

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Originally Posted By: wiiawiwb
Huh? I posted here because I do value the opinions and experience of those on this forum. Where is heaven's name do you think I am dismissing anyone's opinion.

I think we can all agree that the cost of any thermal unit involves a substantial sum of money. Perhaps for some, the most expensive unit is a nominal sum written from petty cash while for others the least expensive must be planned for and saved in order to buy. In either event, I dismiss no one's advice and am thankful for every response.

In the end, it's my wallet that must bear the cost and weight the benefit. With all due respect, I don't appreciate the insulting tenor of your post.


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Originally Posted By: Pig_Popper
Paralysis Analysis

If your distracted by a status bar then cognitively you're not focused on the hunt.

Get on with it and spend that money - the image of either unit will be the primary function


Originally Posted By: wiiawiwb
I would beg to differ. There is not one thing in your post above that I agree with. I've had no opportunity to use any night vision equipment and there are no places within a 4-5 hour drive that carry any. Renting, while an option, is an expensive one. $160/day are the rates I've seen. To quote a famous saying, "I don't know what I don't know." I'm trying to narrow that knowledge gap.

It wouldn't be any different than you buying a high-end rifle without ever having seen or used any firearm in your life. Your very first firearm that you'll drop $2,500+. I suspect in that case, you'd err on the side of caution to be sure you've made a well-informed decision before parting with your hard-earned money.

In the alternative, maybe you're comfortable making a decision, not having gathered all of the facts, moving forward, and living with that decision. That's fine for you and I would have no problem with it. That isn't how I do things and you should be fine with that as well.


You asked if the status bar bothered users on this forum and they answered NO. And you should be fine with that......quoting you.


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No payments No interest for 18 months - this is the pathway to your thermal

Buy it - use it a few times if the status bar annoys you sell it off and consider it a rental trial demo fee to yourself.

I agree renting for 200 bucks for a weekend is steep

But owning and not making interest payments and reselling for 450 less after a year of use is a no brainer......


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You asked if the status bar bothered users on this forum and they answered NO. And you should be fine with that......quoting you.


If you remember the full conversation, someone asked where I had heard that others had problems with the brightness. I promptly posted a link to a thread on a forum about Pulsar thermal imagers. It showed a number of people voicing their displeasure.

He replied something to the effect that he stood corrected, meaning he could see for himself others do have a problem with it. I don't have the luxury of being able to see a Pulsar unit and was curious why the brightness bothered some people and not others. If that line of questioning revealed some insights, it might aid in my decision.

I don't understand why you've got a bee in your bonnet about this. You are free to ignore this thread but kindly don't lecture me.

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Because it's a super strange question to begin with.....

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Interesting isn't it how fast you came running to a "super strange question" just like a coyote to a call?

p.s. Pig Popper, here is yet another complaint about the brightness issue and hopes for a firmware update to correct it. Not so strange after all...

Pulsar Helion brighness

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Stranger and stranger.... you're talking to a bunch of folks who have used this stuff for a while and as we try to make the point about that being the last thing you should worry about, you keep pointing to guys in the UK? Maybe their eyes are more light sensitive or something, eating that Black Pudding will do it to you.

I had an XD, I have an XQ, I couldn't tell you what's on the status bar other than the battery level, much less have an opinion on whether or not it's too bright. Go buy a Thor, then you'll have something to complain about.


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Originally Posted By: wiiawiwb
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You asked if the status bar bothered users on this forum and they answered NO. And you should be fine with that......quoting you.


If you remember the full conversation, someone asked where I had heard that others had problems with the brightness. I promptly posted a link to a thread on a forum about Pulsar thermal imagers. It showed a number of people voicing their displeasure.

He replied something to the effect that he stood corrected, meaning he could see for himself others do have a problem with it. I don't have the luxury of being able to see a Pulsar unit and was curious why the brightness bothered some people and not others. If that line of questioning revealed some insights, it might aid in my decision.

I don't understand why you've got a bee in your bonnet about this. You are free to ignore this thread but kindly don't lecture me.


He said he stood corrected on it being a complaint from others but the one he uses doesn't bother him and offered to let you try his before you buy which would put an end to your strange thread so why not take him up on his offer?


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This is strange thread, but in all fairness to the guy, all of the advertising done for this stuff now can get pretty confusing. Lots of video editing, cherry picking perfect condition nights ect...... lots of info out there, but hard to tell who’s getting paid/compensated for their “review”.

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Assume he is a guy, if he is actually a she, then ma’am I apologize. Don’t want to offend anybody in today’s sensitive world............

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