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6.5-300 weatherby #6921721 10/16/17 01:59 AM
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Adds a little bump to the Creedmoor. Anyone play with this yet? flame


How fast, you might ask? Well, the company is introducing three cartridges, each with a muzzle velocity well north of 3,300 fps:

127-grain Barnes LRX — 3,531 fps
130-grain Swift Scirocco — 3,475 fps
140-grain Swift A-Frame — 3,395 fps

To give some perspective, the 127-grain round has a maximum point blank range (MPBR) of 0-305 yards on a 5-inch target with the rifle scoped in at 200 yards. And the bullet has more velocity at this particular MPBR than the .260 Remington produces at the muzzle.

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Yes, I wasn't impressed at all. It's like cramming a big block with a large blower out the hood into a Ford Pinto. It's nothing but horse power, and hard to control. Not my cup of tea, but it is for some.


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I'd rather get 3000 fps out of a 142gr bullet with barrel life and consistency. That's a little too hot for a 260 though, wish I went with a 6.5-284.


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I’ll stick to my 26 Nosler.

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Not sure but it seems like that might kill on both ends ?


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A barrel burner for sure.
It makes a 7 mm wsm like a 308.

Re: 6.5-300 weatherby [Re: hetman] #6921921 10/16/17 11:10 AM
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Doesn't appeal to me at all. Chad already explained.


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too much recoil for this baby rifle but so does a .243

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I think that it's a neat super zapper. Not a target gun, obviously, but a cool hunting option if you like the .257 Wby or the 7mm Ultra.


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sounds real cool bruh! how long is the barrel going to last, 300 rounds?

just another example of how most of us have been bitten by the "hardware disease" bug.

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6.5 Weatherby is a MUCH better option

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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
Yes, I wasn't impressed at all. It's like cramming a big block with a large blower out the hood into a Ford Pinto. It's nothing but horse power, and hard to control. Not my cup of tea, but it is for some.




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^^ Exactly!!!

The 6.5 Wby, based on the 257 Wby case necked up would be an awesome round. The 6.5-300 Wby is a whole different case, and much larger. So, there's 2, 6.5,, Wby rounds.


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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
^^ Exactly!!!

The 6.5 Wby, based on the 257 Wby case necked up would be an awesome round. The 6.5-300 Wby is a whole different case, and much larger. So, there's 2, 6.5,, Wby rounds.


Weatherby only list the 6.5-300

257 Weatherby: Parent case.375 H&H Magnum -Case capacity 84 gr H2O

6.5-300 Weatherby: Parent case.300 Weatherby Magnum - Case capacity 96 gr H2O


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One cartridge. Three loadings.

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^^ Exactly!!!

The 6.5 Wby, based on the 257 Wby case necked up would be an awesome round. The 6.5-300 Wby is a whole different case, and much larger. So, there's 2, 6.5,, Wby rounds.


Weatherby only list the 6.5-300

257 Weatherby: Parent case.375 H&H Magnum -Case capacity 84 gr H2O

6.5-300 Weatherby: Parent case.300 Weatherby Magnum - Case capacity 96 gr H2O


Roy Weatherby shortened the case for the .257 and one of the other rounds I can't remember which one


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Originally Posted By: Buzzsaw
6.5 Weatherby is a MUCH better option


Mine is .257WM necked up or .270WM necked down.

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6.5 Weatherby is a MUCH better option


Mine is .257WM necked up or .270WM necked down.


Mcworther? When my barrel goes bye bye on my 257. That will be the next upgrade.


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Only a little girl would shoot a 6.5 Wby when a 6.5-300 Wby is available! peep


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that's why i'm selling it , so I can step up woot


not really, I need the $$

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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
Yes, I wasn't impressed at all. It's like cramming a big block with a large blower out the hood into a Ford Pinto. It's nothing but horse power, and hard to control. Not my cup of tea, but it is for some.


What about with Bergers new 155gr 6.5 ?

That could be a sweet match


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Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
Yes, I wasn't impressed at all. It's like cramming a big block with a large blower out the hood into a Ford Pinto. It's nothing but horse power, and hard to control. Not my cup of tea, but it is for some.


So what are your thoughts on the 26 Nosler?
Basically the same horsepower with same bullets.

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My opinion:

Weatherby and Nosler cater to the average American hunters mind set, which is speed is 80% of importance. It's not 80%, it's 33.33%. The reason the average American hunter thinks this, is the faster that bullet is moving the less it drops. And that's exactly correct, to a limit, as far as distance is concerned. The reason they want this, is so they don't have to make a large correction, on their reticle, for a shot farther than their zero. This has been shown, on this forum hundreds of times. The old habit of the duplex reticle does in fact make distance corrections a bit more difficult. Speeding up the bullet makes that method easier. But speed will only get you so far. The other two 33.33% margins belong to Ballistic Coefficient and bullet weight.

The example I use, when I'm teaching is from my own loadings.

.22-250, 1:14 twist
55 gr Sierra Game Kings
BC .240 (If memory serves)
MV 3780 fps
Sub-sonic at 600 yards. Therefore making a major drop beyond 300 yards.

Shot that barrel out, of course.
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.22-250 1:8 twist
75 gr A-Max
BC .435
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Sub-sonic at 1100 yards. Therefore passing the 55 gr not very far down range, and maintaining super sonic flight much farther. A 580 fps loss of velocity at the muzzle is huge, but I made up for it with weight and BC.

All of this is a moot point if a guy doesn't plan on shooting more than 300 yards. I think that's a shame, coyotes and hogs need killing. wink


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Reader's Digest explanation: Americans want speed so they don't have to twist their brains around their poor math skills to figure drops. They want speed and mechanical items to make up for their lack of skills, practice and/or talent.


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Reader's Digest explanation: Americans want speed so they don't have to twist their brains around their poor math skills to figure drops. They want speed and mechanical items to make up for their lack of skills, practice and/or talent.


Or they want increased energy at greater distances so they add more powder to push the Higher BC bullets of the .26, 28 and 30 diameter calibers faster.





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