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IOTA KREMLIN? #6903075
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Anyone using a Iota Kremlin on one of your guns? Do the make one to suit a heavy varmit contour in a bartlein?

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I have several of them. I have a 28 Nosler with a heavy contour .... it miked .850 if that helps.


"Anyone taking up handloading necessarily plays with unknown factors and takes chances. But so does anyone who drives a car,goes to a cocktail party,eats in a restaurant,or gets married."

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I might have to mill out some of it if I get one, the barltein HV is bigger than .850.

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So many better choices

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I know brother in law, trying to keep this build in the moderate range. The build is for my son (12) that has been shooting my guns as he has lost interest in his factory setup, he's been shooting mid range (600yds) with a couple of mine. Time to get him is own. Its going to be .243 on a rem700 with a bartlein barrel, looking at about $1500 for the build without the optic which I have already.

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I have a Kremlin and their Krux. Both are well built and I like their designs.

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Spg sorry I measured hurriedly and must have moved the calipers. I checked near the end of the stock fore end and it measured.950
I cannot get a good measurement at the chamber end due to scope objectives too close and too big but itís a HV contour going from memory.

I couldnít disagree more with BILís comment but really not sure what he means by it? Thatís like saying donít buy a Ford there are better choices?
I have several McMiillan/ Manners/ stocks and have owned HS and Stockyís too and the Iotaís are well made and well designed stocks made right here in Texas.


"Anyone taking up handloading necessarily plays with unknown factors and takes chances. But so does anyone who drives a car,goes to a cocktail party,eats in a restaurant,or gets married."

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DStroud, not to worry, a little milling if needed wont be a problem. I too have different stocks, they are all pretty much the same except for my manners, its noticeably stiffer than all of the rest.

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Spg, We can do just about any contour you want. Call us at 9792294664 on Monday and ask for Austin he can walk you through the barrel channel and stocks. I am pretty confident we have what you are looking for in stock.
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Originally Posted By: spg
I know brother in law, trying to keep this build in the moderate range. The build is for my son (12) that has been shooting my guns as he has lost interest in his factory setup, he's been shooting mid range (600yds) with a couple of mine. Time to get him is own. Its going to be .243 on a rem700 with a bartlein barrel, looking at about $1500 for the build without the optic which I have already.


Can't believe they want $550 for those

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Originally Posted By: Brother in-law

Can't believe they want $550 for those

Wow you certainly have a lot to offer on this topic. Obviously you have never handled this stock. I will say it's on the same level as any of my McMillians I own. It's a quality stock and priced at market value of other similar stocks.

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Originally Posted By: Maxlab
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Can't believe they want $550 for those

Wow you certainly have a lot to offer on this topic. Obviously you have never handled this stock. I will say it's on the same level as any of my McMillians I own. It's a quality stock and priced at market value of other similar stocks.


I have and it's not on the same level and are in McMillan territory at that price point. Good luck

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$529 and you can also purchase our entire product line through optics planet as well. They are a new distributor for iota.

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Apologies in advance if this more info than you wanted.

There are some difference between the McMillan say the GameScout and the Iota Kremlin which are similar in style.
I have two of each sitting here in front of me. The Iota is a little beefier / larger in the stock portion(where your cheek rests) and it has a wider flatter fore end which rides a bag better IMO than the McMillan but if you use bipod mostly thatís no big deal. As far as quality both are similar but McMillan does have more styles and can be built for more brands of actions.
You have to pay extra on the McMillan to get the Limbsaver recoil pad that comes standard on the Kremlin.
A plus for some on the McMillan is they have a textured palm swell and fore end while on the Kremlin itís smooth.
Priced out with equal accessories McMillan 562.00 Iota 529.00
McMillan 6 months to get one built in your favorite colors and Iota about 1 month.

McMillan has been making stocks for 44 years starting in 1973 making Benchrest stocks based in Arizona

Iota while a newer company itís parent Kaspar Companies based in Shiner Texas started in 1898 so they been around a while.
Point being Iota is not some little outfit thatís here today gone tomorrow.


Not sure how much range/hunting time BIL has spent handling the Kremlin but I shoot both the above described stocks every week and I donít see this glaring difference he is inferring.


"Anyone taking up handloading necessarily plays with unknown factors and takes chances. But so does anyone who drives a car,goes to a cocktail party,eats in a restaurant,or gets married."

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I have 3 McMillans, A5's and A3 none were under $700

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What about a Grayboe stock? Better than Bell and Carlson and about the same price...


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Thanks for the info, I went ahead and over spent and got a Manners Elite

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Originally Posted By: spg
Thanks for the info, I went ahead and over spent and got a Manners Elite


There you go ....canít go wrong there either cheers


"Anyone taking up handloading necessarily plays with unknown factors and takes chances. But so does anyone who drives a car,goes to a cocktail party,eats in a restaurant,or gets married."

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OP said moderate price on his build. At $529 you have your Iota, great fine. There are models of McMillan at $559 to be had. In my mind you can then look at Grayboe at about $300 and there is a another promo for another 13% off at Redhawk rifles this month on Grayboe making the Grayboe a real good deal compared to the McMillan and iota.

Y'alls money , I'm just pointing out best bangs for the buck. Iota is not McMillan.

Stroud how are you tied in with Iota / Horizon? Are you employed or their biggest cheerleader?

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Originally Posted By: Brother in-law
OP said moderate price on his build. At $529 you have your Iota, great fine. There are models of McMillan at $559 to be had. In my mind you can then look at Grayboe at about $300 and there is a another promo for another 13% off at Redhawk rifles this month on Grayboe making the Grayboe a real good deal compared to the McMillan and iota.

Y'alls money , I'm just pointing out best bangs for the buck. Iota is not McMillan.

Stroud how are you tied in with Iota / Horizon? Are you employed or their biggest cheerleader?

He is one of their cheerleaders and so am I! I have watched the progression of Horizon to where it is today and know just how much work Derrick has put into to trying to build a very good product. I am pretty much old school when it comes to my rifles but I want one that shoots. His rifles do just that. I do have a Kremlin and it is different for me but I am getting used to it. The Krux is closer to my style. I have McMillan (and they are good), as well as HS and BC. All work well. The Iota line are good products and if you like them then fine. Derrick has met his goal with the stocks that he is producing.

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Originally Posted By: Brother in-law
OP said moderate price on his build. At $529 you have your Iota, great fine. There are models of McMillan at $559 to be had. In my mind you can then look at Grayboe at about $300 and there is a another promo for another 13% off at Redhawk rifles this month on Grayboe making the Grayboe a real good deal compared to the McMillan and iota.

Y'alls money , I'm just pointing out best bangs for the buck. Iota is not McMillan.

Stroud how are you tied in with Iota / Horizon? Are you employed or their biggest cheerleader?



BIL thanks for the compliment but .... No Actually I work for a company based out of Mississippi and sell asphalt for a living.
I have other custom builds but do gravitate toward Horizon as they have shown me excellent customer service since the first rebarrel I had them do several years ago. I tend to stay with companies that treat the customer well and have great products.
For future reference I am on ProStaff for Foxpro Game Calls another company with great customer service so take any advice I give on predator / game calls with that in mind. cheers


"Anyone taking up handloading necessarily plays with unknown factors and takes chances. But so does anyone who drives a car,goes to a cocktail party,eats in a restaurant,or gets married."

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I know you know your stuff and a strong varmint hunter.

I did not call anyone's personal baby ugly and y'all come out of the woodworks all defensive. I'm glad for a Texas company to have such a great following and are proud of their overpriced for what you get rifles and parts. I'm sorry y'all are so sensitive.

Sounds like the op got a better than moderate stock and is good to go.

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Glad to see that last post so all can see whatís up here.... Bless your Heart!


"Anyone taking up handloading necessarily plays with unknown factors and takes chances. But so does anyone who drives a car,goes to a cocktail party,eats in a restaurant,or gets married."

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LOL BIL, you've just been 'owned'. Your posts constantly rile people up, I honestly don't know whether your serious or just having fun but it sure is fun watching! P_102


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Originally Posted By: Maxlab
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Can't believe they want $550 for those

Wow you certainly have a lot to offer on this topic. Obviously you have never handled this stock. I will say it's on the same level as any of my McMillians I own. It's a quality stock and priced at market value of other similar stocks.


I have no idea what you are looking at if you think those stocks are on the same level as a McMillan. I have used those stocks in the field and have found them to be very wanting.

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