texashuntingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
nmmuledeerhunter, Dzia-Dzia, TraeMartin, Beatixre, MooseSteed
71989 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
dogcatcher 110,788
bill oxner 91,416
SnakeWrangler 65,417
stxranchman 60,296
Gravytrain 46,950
RKHarm24 44,585
rifleman 44,461
Stub 43,769
Forum Statistics
Forums46
Topics537,034
Posts9,719,666
Members86,989
Most Online25,604
Feb 12th, 2024
Print Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Bore Sighting Question #6900274 09/27/17 03:19 AM
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,015
T
TurkeyWhisperer Offline OP
Pro Tracker
OP Offline
Pro Tracker
T
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,015
I just put a new scope, rings and base on my Remington 700 .270. For those of you that boresight your own rifles, how do you do it?

Should I buy a laser boresighter, or can I just look down the barrel and adjust the scope? Also, at what range(s) do you generally bore sight?

I have sighted in several scopes before. But each time I just started at a close range and worked my way out. Wanting to save a few steps and some ammo this time.

Any advice and details would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: TurkeyWhisperer] #6900291 09/27/17 03:39 AM
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 9,952
L
LFD2037 Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
L
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 9,952
W/a rock steady rest, take the bolt out, look thru the bbl & match the cross hairs to the target @ 25yds.
Fire one shot to make sure you're close, adjust as needed.
Move to 100yds. & fire one shot.
W/out moving the gun, move the cross hairs to that bullet hole. Should be done but need confirmation shot.
Fire one more to confirm/fine tune.

Good luck!


R.I.P. CPO Matt Mills-(DEVGRU)- You will NEVER be forgotten!
10-25-75 / 8-6-11 *K.I.A.*
Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: TurkeyWhisperer] #6900342 09/27/17 07:59 AM
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,394
B
booradley Offline
Veteran Tracker
Offline
Veteran Tracker
B
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 2,394
LFD2037 nailed it. I have an arbor and a laser bore sighter because I used to mount several scopes a week. If only done occasionally then the method above works great.


Don’t roll those bloodshot eyes at me.
Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: LFD2037] #6900385 09/27/17 11:14 AM
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 6,279
onlysmith&wesson Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Jul 2014
Posts: 6,279
Originally Posted By: LFD2037
W/a rock steady rest, take the bolt out, look thru the bbl & match the cross hairs to the target @ 25yds.
Fire one shot to make sure you're close, adjust as needed.
Move to 100yds. & fire one shot.
W/out moving the gun, move the cross hairs to that bullet hole. Should be done but need confirmation shot.
Fire one more to confirm/fine tune.

Good luck!
This. With a modification, I mount and bore sight at home. I have sighted at objects out to 50 or so yards through the bore. (like a post and top rail on a chain link fence) then one shot, move the cross hair to the shot.....the farther you can bore sight the closer to zero you'll be.


An unethical shot is one you take, that you know you shouldn't.
Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: LFD2037] #6900400 09/27/17 11:44 AM
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,320
C
Crews Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
C
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,320
Originally Posted By: LFD2037
W/a rock steady rest, take the bolt out, look thru the bbl & match the cross hairs to the target @ 25yds.
Fire one shot to make sure you're close, adjust as needed.
Move to 100yds. & fire one shot.
W/out moving the gun, move the cross hairs to that bullet hole. Should be done but need confirmation shot.
Fire one more to confirm/fine tune.

Good luck!


since I am now stuck in the big city for a while, I have been banished to shooting with the masses at public gun ranges. I just can't describe how many times I've seen folks shoot BOXES of ammo trying to hit a target and scratching their head after they paid to have their new scope "boresighted" at the local gun store. If I get an opportunity to help, this is the method I use as well. I go straight to the 100 yard line with a 6" black round target on a big piece of paper. Rarely takes me more than 3 shots and 5 minutes to zero a rifle scope (with good equipment.)

Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: TurkeyWhisperer] #6900525 09/27/17 01:31 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 18,908
C
ChadTRG42 Online Happy
THF Celebrity
Online Happy
THF Celebrity
C
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 18,908
I do exactly what LFD said, but I use a distance of about 100-200 yards out. 25 yards is way too close, IMO. If you sight in that close, you will be off at 100, which takes more rounds. I want to bore sight and zero in as few shots as possible. If you get the center of your sight picture through the bore to the center of the cross hairs at 100-200 yards, you will be within a few inches of zero. I'm often about 2-3 inches off. If I'm at home, I'll lay prone with the rifle supported on a bipod, and look through the glass door or window, and use the neighbors chimney or roof line. If at the range, I'll use the 100 or 200 yard target to bore sight through.

Also, when looking through the rifles bore and dialing in the scope, the adjustments are backwards. To move left, you dial right. To move up, you dial down. I do this method with almost every rifle I shoot, so several times a week.


[Linked Image]
Custom and Precision Ammunition!!
https://DallasReloads.com/
Type 01 and Type 06 FFL
Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: ChadTRG42] #6900789 09/27/17 04:33 PM
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 9,952
L
LFD2037 Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
L
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 9,952
Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
I do exactly what LFD said, but I use a distance of about 100-200 yards out. 25 yards is way too close, IMO. If you sight in that close, you will be off at 100, which takes more rounds. I want to bore sight and zero in as few shots as possible. If you get the center of your sight picture through the bore to the center of the cross hairs at 100-200 yards, you will be within a few inches of zero. I'm often about 2-3 inches off. If I'm at home, I'll lay prone with the rifle supported on a bipod, and look through the glass door or window, and use the neighbors chimney or roof line. If at the range, I'll use the 100 or 200 yard target to bore sight through.

Also, when looking through the rifles bore and dialing in the scope, the adjustments are backwards. To move left, you dial right. To move up, you dial down. I do this method with almost every rifle I shoot, so several times a week.

I can't see 100yds. w/out magnification is why I start @ 25yds. If you can see 100-200yds. then by all means, start there. I wish I could! Damn astigmatism is a PITA when trying to be half-[censored] precise.


R.I.P. CPO Matt Mills-(DEVGRU)- You will NEVER be forgotten!
10-25-75 / 8-6-11 *K.I.A.*
Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: TurkeyWhisperer] #6900798 09/27/17 04:39 PM
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 18,908
C
ChadTRG42 Online Happy
THF Celebrity
Online Happy
THF Celebrity
C
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 18,908
LOL!!! True dat!


[Linked Image]
Custom and Precision Ammunition!!
https://DallasReloads.com/
Type 01 and Type 06 FFL
Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: TurkeyWhisperer] #6900873 09/27/17 05:11 PM
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 788
H
hermano W Offline
Tracker
Offline
Tracker
H
Joined: Jun 2012
Posts: 788
Looking through the reduced area of the rifle bore actually helps reduce the detrimental effect of astigmatism, just like looking through a peep-sight does. Even with my 70+ year old eyes, I can get on paper bore sighting at 100yds. With an AR type rifle, I take the upper off and bore sight that way. With a lever-action I use the "shoot at close range first" method and make sure I have a BIG target. If you are not on paper with your first shot, you can really waste a lot of expensive ammo shooting who knows where....

Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: TurkeyWhisperer] #6900957 09/27/17 06:13 PM
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,766
P_102 Online Content
Extreme Tracker
Online Content
Extreme Tracker
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,766
Unfortunately I can't see well enough so I use the Pursuit bore sighting kit (arbors from .17 to .50 and shotgun). Works fine.

P_102


Do not trifle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: LFD2037] #6900987 09/27/17 06:34 PM
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 5,900
J
Jgraider Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
J
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 5,900
Originally Posted By: LFD2037
W/a rock steady rest, take the bolt out, look thru the bbl & match the cross hairs to the target @ 25yds.
Fire one shot to make sure you're close, adjust as needed.
Move to 100yds. & fire one shot.
W/out moving the gun, move the cross hairs to that bullet hole. Should be done but need confirmation shot.
Fire one more to confirm/fine tune.

Good luck!


Works every time. I personally try and leave that 25yd shot about 2" low, then move to 100. Not a deal breaker though. Like others, I cannot see the target well enough through the barrel at 100 yds, much less 200.

Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: TurkeyWhisperer] #6901374 09/27/17 11:00 PM
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 4,136
D
Dalee7892 Offline
Extreme Tracker
Offline
Extreme Tracker
D
Joined: May 2015
Posts: 4,136
Yep, wear bi-focals. See close okay far away is a bummer. Have to use a scope can't focus open sights to distance object, have to bob head up and down.
At home set up 25 yard target bore sight then two the range.

Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: TurkeyWhisperer] #6901437 09/27/17 11:42 PM
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,729
N
NMGW Offline
Pro Tracker
Offline
Pro Tracker
N
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,729
I also do 25 yards. I can't see past that. I just setup a 30-06 this way and only had to make one windage adjustment.


New Mexico: Not Really New, Not Really Mexico
Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: TurkeyWhisperer] #6901463 09/28/17 12:05 AM
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 9,502
R
RiverRider Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
R
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 9,502
I've gotten into the habit of bitching about having trouble seeing close up. I guess I've really got no reason to bellyache. Not much, anyway.

You fellas who have trouble with iron sights, I can sympathize with you...but if you've never looked through aperture sights, you really oughta give it a try. The smaller the aperture, the better.

I bore sight on a neighbor's porch light about 100 yards away. I will usually fire at least one round at 50, though, just to be sure I'll be on paper at 100. I do have one rifle that just does not tell you where it's going to hit by boresighting. I think the receiver's D&Ted a little off center. Shoots good, though---once it's zeroed.


[Linked Image]

"Arguing with you always makes me thirsty."

-Augustus McRae
Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: LFD2037] #6903870 09/30/17 03:05 AM
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,168
T
Tactical Cowboy Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
T
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,168
Originally Posted By: LFD2037
W/a rock steady rest, take the bolt out, look thru the bbl & match the cross hairs to the target @ 25yds.
Fire one shot to make sure you're close, adjust as needed.
Move to 100yds. & fire one shot.
W/out moving the gun, move the cross hairs to that bullet hole. Should be done but need confirmation shot.
Fire one more to confirm/fine tune.

Good luck!


Yup


The secret to a long life is to try not to shorten it.
Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: ChadTRG42] #6904256 09/30/17 08:20 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,085
J.G. Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,085
Originally Posted By: ChadTRG42
I do exactly what LFD said, but I use a distance of about 100-200 yards out. 25 yards is way too close, IMO. If you sight in that close, you will be off at 100, which takes more rounds. I want to bore sight and zero in as few shots as possible. If you get the center of your sight picture through the bore to the center of the cross hairs at 100-200 yards, you will be within a few inches of zero. I'm often about 2-3 inches off. If I'm at home, I'll lay prone with the rifle supported on a bipod, and look through the glass door or window, and use the neighbors chimney or roof line. If at the range, I'll use the 100 or 200 yard target to bore sight through.

Also, when looking through the rifles bore and dialing in the scope, the adjustments are backwards. To move left, you dial right. To move up, you dial down. I do this method with almost every rifle I shoot, so several times a week.


I perform this task the same way Chad does.


[Linked Image]
800 Yard Steel Range
Precision Rifle Instruction
Memberships and Classes Available
Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: TurkeyWhisperer] #6904271 09/30/17 08:57 PM
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,809
C
Cleric Offline
Extreme Tracker
Offline
Extreme Tracker
C
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,809
ARs are a bit harder because you can’t remove the bolt. Sometimes I find it helpful to use a laser to get the left/right alligned.

Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: Cleric] #6904296 09/30/17 09:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,085
J.G. Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,085
Originally Posted By: Cleric
ARs are a bit harder because you can’t remove the bolt.


Huh?


[Linked Image]
800 Yard Steel Range
Precision Rifle Instruction
Memberships and Classes Available
Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: J.G.] #6904383 09/30/17 11:14 PM
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,809
C
Cleric Offline
Extreme Tracker
Offline
Extreme Tracker
C
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,809
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: Cleric
ARs are a bit harder because you can’t remove the bolt.


Huh?




Can’t see through barrel with bolt out like you can on a bolt action

Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: TurkeyWhisperer] #6904442 10/01/17 12:33 AM
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 9,502
R
RiverRider Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
R
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 9,502
You can if you separate the upper from the lower. I have a cleaning rod guide that I can see through and it will hold the upper/lower apart, but I've not gone to the trouble to figure out how to take advantage of that for bore sighting. It's easy enough with upper and lower separated.


[Linked Image]

"Arguing with you always makes me thirsty."

-Augustus McRae
Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: Cleric] #6904525 10/01/17 02:26 AM
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 9,952
L
LFD2037 Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
Offline
THF Trophy Hunter
L
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 9,952
Originally Posted By: Cleric
ARs are a bit harder because you can’t remove the bolt. Sometimes I find it helpful to use a laser to get the left/right alligned.

I think an AR is the easiest. Just take off the lower and take the BCG out. Done!


R.I.P. CPO Matt Mills-(DEVGRU)- You will NEVER be forgotten!
10-25-75 / 8-6-11 *K.I.A.*
Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: LFD2037] #6904584 10/01/17 03:56 AM
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 32,442
kmon11 Online Shocked
junior
Online Shocked
junior
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 32,442
Originally Posted By: LFD2037
Originally Posted By: Cleric
ARs are a bit harder because you can’t remove the bolt. Sometimes I find it helpful to use a laser to get the left/right alligned.

I think an AR is the easiest. Just take off the lower and take the BCG out. Done!


AR is easy but not as easy as just pulling the bolt on a boltaction to me. Lever actions are the most pain to bore sight to me.

I usually bore sight at 50 yards and shoot to verify before going longer. Msny cartridges that will put you very close at 100 yards.


lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true
Mainstream news might be fun to watch
Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: Cleric] #6904770 10/01/17 03:03 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,085
J.G. Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,085
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: Cleric
ARs are a bit harder because you can’t remove the bolt.


Huh?




Can’t see through barrel with bolt out like you can on a bolt action


That's odd you say that, since I've done it about a hundred times.


[Linked Image]
800 Yard Steel Range
Precision Rifle Instruction
Memberships and Classes Available
Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: J.G.] #6904803 10/01/17 03:41 PM
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,809
C
Cleric Offline
Extreme Tracker
Offline
Extreme Tracker
C
Joined: Mar 2012
Posts: 3,809
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: Cleric
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: Cleric
ARs are a bit harder because you can’t remove the bolt.


Huh?




Can’t see through barrel with bolt out like you can on a bolt action


That's odd you say that, since I've done it about a hundred times.


Well you are the god of shooting as you like to spout off

It can be more difficult on ars with the just the upper, as it's harder to brace. There are things you can do to help but it can be difficult for people doing it for the first time.

Re: Bore Sighting Question [Re: TurkeyWhisperer] #6904827 10/01/17 04:06 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,085
J.G. Online Content
THF Celebrity
Online Content
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 41,085
Originally Posted By: Cleric

Well you are the god of shooting as you like to spout off

It can be more difficult on ars with the just the upper, as it's harder to brace. There are things you can do to help but it can be difficult for people doing it for the first time.


Now you went to far.

It's not my fault when idiots get on here and give what they think is good advice. And other people are going to believe that is good advice. I can't abide that. You just gave bad advice based on your personal lack of brain power to do something, and was called out on it. My 9 year old daughter has learned to accept being called out. Evidently you missed the lesson at some point in life.

Pull the back pin, split the upper from the lower, pull bolt and changing handle. Upper on a bipod or laying across a pack and bore sight down the bore like any other rifle.

"Can't see through the barrel". Your quote, and it is completely wrong.


[Linked Image]
800 Yard Steel Range
Precision Rifle Instruction
Memberships and Classes Available
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread

© 2004-2024 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.3