texashuntingforum.com logo
Main Menu
Advertisement
Affiliates
Advertisement
Newest Members
Wyohunter1, BMB163, harkm, Turtle Jeep, ShaneA
64367 Registered Users
Top Posters(All Time)
dogcatcher 90,172
stxranchman 53,759
bill oxner 49,816
RKHarm24 44,577
rifleman 44,414
BMD 41,009
SnakeWrangler 39,589
Big Orn 37,484
txshntr 35,378
Facebook
Forum Statistics
Forums45
Topics417,990
Posts6,076,562
Members64,367
Most Online16,728
Mar 25th, 2012
Print Thread
Swarovski Z5 or Z6? #6882774
09/09/17 08:12 PM
09/09/17 08:12 PM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 48
Texas
D
dashing dog Offline OP
Light Foot
dashing dog  Offline OP
Light Foot
D

Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 48
Texas
Opinions please
Looking into getting a Swarovski but debating if the extra $600 is worth getting the Z6 ?
I like the 30MM main tube on the Z6 but will I really notice the difference in a 1" tube the Z5 comes with?
If I get the Z6 is the illuminated sight worth getting?
Thanks in advance

Last edited by dashing dog; 09/09/17 08:39 PM.
Re: Swarovski Z5 or Z6? [Re: dashing dog] #6882800
09/09/17 09:42 PM
09/09/17 09:42 PM
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 533
Frisco
R
RHutch Online content
Tracker
RHutch  Online Content
Tracker
R

Joined: May 2013
Posts: 533
Frisco
Are you buying features or buying brand?
I ask because there are a lot of manufactures out there that can compete favorably with Swaro for a much lower price. If you must have a Swaro, I get that too and would say the difference in the Z5 and Z6 is negligible to the average Hunter.

Last edited by RHutch; 09/09/17 10:04 PM.
Re: Swarovski Z5 or Z6? [Re: dashing dog] #6882823
09/09/17 10:10 PM
09/09/17 10:10 PM
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 48
Texas
D
dashing dog Offline OP
Light Foot
dashing dog  Offline OP
Light Foot
D

Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 48
Texas
I'm looking at Swar since the current scope I have now is a Zeiss Diavar Z? Don't know if I spelled that right.
So was looking into another Zeiss but wanted to kick around the idea of a Swarovski

Last edited by dashing dog; 09/09/17 10:12 PM.
Re: Swarovski Z5 or Z6? [Re: RHutch] #6882970
09/10/17 01:37 AM
09/10/17 01:37 AM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 314
H
HCHunter28 Offline
Bird Dog
HCHunter28  Offline
Bird Dog
H

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 314
Originally Posted By: RHutch
Are you buying features or buying brand?
I ask because there are a lot of manufactures out there that can compete favorably with Swaro for a much lower price. If you must have a Swaro, I get that too and would say the difference in the Z5 and Z6 is negligible to the average Hunter.


Swarovskis are great and I've never regretted buying one. You must not own one and never had one to make this comment.

Scopes are personal and everyone has their brand. In the price point you're looking in, most are great scopes.
I don't see the value in moving up to the z6. The 3.5-18 is one of my favorite setups.


Re: Swarovski Z5 or Z6? [Re: dashing dog] #6882993
09/10/17 02:21 AM
09/10/17 02:21 AM
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 533
Frisco
R
RHutch Online content
Tracker
RHutch  Online Content
Tracker
R

Joined: May 2013
Posts: 533
Frisco
Wrong. Owned a couple and they are nice scopes. My question and comment was simply to learn more about the use of the scope before an educated opinion could be shared. Getting emotional about "your brand" is silly.
I've owned dozens of high-end scopes over the years, including Swaro, Zeiss, S&B, March, Premier, etc.,and don't have to guess when it comes to scopes and scope function.

Re: Swarovski Z5 or Z6? [Re: dashing dog] #6883026
09/10/17 03:11 AM
09/10/17 03:11 AM
Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 602
Grand Prairie
D
Dien Offline
Tracker
Dien  Offline
Tracker
D

Joined: Aug 2012
Posts: 602
Grand Prairie
Z6i for me. Great eye relief and bright. Don't regret it. But only use it for under 300 yards.

Re: Swarovski Z5 or Z6? [Re: RHutch] #6883035
09/10/17 03:23 AM
09/10/17 03:23 AM
Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 314
H
HCHunter28 Offline
Bird Dog
HCHunter28  Offline
Bird Dog
H

Joined: Dec 2016
Posts: 314
Originally Posted By: RHutch
Wrong. Owned a couple and they are nice scopes. My question and comment was simply to learn more about the use of the scope before an educated opinion could be shared. Getting emotional about "your brand" is silly.
I've owned dozens of high-end scopes over the years, including Swaro, Zeiss, S&B, March, Premier, etc.,and don't have to guess when it comes to scopes and scope function.


He was only asking about Swarovski and it sounded like you were trying to talk him out of a Swarovski. My comments were directed at get what you want because people have brands they prefer just like Ford vs Chevy.

I don't get your comments because you said there are many manufacturers that compete with Swarovski at a lower price point and then you only list brands that are as expensive or more expensive than Swaros.

"Getting emotional about your brand" What are you talking about?

Re: Swarovski Z5 or Z6? [Re: dashing dog] #6883049
09/10/17 03:40 AM
09/10/17 03:40 AM
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 533
Frisco
R
RHutch Online content
Tracker
RHutch  Online Content
Tracker
R

Joined: May 2013
Posts: 533
Frisco
JFC. Comprehension is not your strongpoint.

I'm out.

To the OP....get the Z6i in the configuration of your choice.

Re: Swarovski Z5 or Z6? [Re: dashing dog] #6883080
09/10/17 05:44 AM
09/10/17 05:44 AM
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,862
Texas
kmon1 Online shocked
junior
kmon1  Online Shocked
junior

Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 23,862
Texas
There are a lot of scopes I like these days but have never regretted getting the Swaro Z6 2.5-15 that lives on the Cooper 6.5-284. Bought it pre I series but it works well past legal shooting time and loaned it to a friend that shot coyotes on a full moon night at a little over 200 yards without use of any lights.


Yes on questions like this the general answers go to what we have and like generally as mine above did. Between Z5 or Z6, for general hunting both will perform well, I went Z6 when Cameraland had them on open box buy sale for about the price of a Z5 normally which helped make the choice easy.

Re: Swarovski Z5 or Z6? [Re: dashing dog] #6883164
09/10/17 01:10 PM
09/10/17 01:10 PM
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 14,323
Frisco, Texas
B
Buzzsaw Online content
THF Celebrity
Buzzsaw  Online Content
THF Celebrity
B

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 14,323
Frisco, Texas
I have a Z-3 and a Z-5, I would not Hesitate with the Z-5 for everything. mines a 5-25X, I have a BDC turret built for it and its spot on. Not sure what you goal is. long range hunting, competitions? For hunting the Z-5 should handle anything.

In my Opinion


"I ain't here for a long time, I'm here for a good time"
King George Strait


Re: Swarovski Z5 or Z6? [Re: RHutch] #6883267
09/10/17 03:58 PM
09/10/17 03:58 PM
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 26,658
Wolfe City, TX
F
FiremanJG Online content
THF Celebrity
FiremanJG  Online Content
THF Celebrity
F

Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 26,658
Wolfe City, TX
Originally Posted By: RHutch
Getting emotional about "your brand" is silly.


Happens nearly every day, on the THF.

To the OP,

Here's my take in Swarovski, as well as many shooters that really know optics.

Almost untouchable glass quality. In fact I really don't know who makes clearer glass. Therefore Swaro observation devices are extraordinary.

Swaro is lacking in controls, in rifle scopes. If you want to dial corrections they play second fiddle to many other brands. They don't have much travel, and they have, in the past, had unreliable tracking. But if you are the guy, like most, that zero a scope, and never touch the controls again, they will probably do a great job for you, as others have mentioned in this thread.



800 Yard Steel Range
Precision Rifle Instruction
Memberships and Classes Available
Re: Swarovski Z5 or Z6? [Re: FiremanJG] #6883307
09/10/17 05:38 PM
09/10/17 05:38 PM
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 14,323
Frisco, Texas
B
Buzzsaw Online content
THF Celebrity
Buzzsaw  Online Content
THF Celebrity
B

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 14,323
Frisco, Texas
Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
Originally Posted By: RHutch
Getting emotional about "your brand" is silly.


Happens nearly every day, on the THF.

To the OP,

Here's my take in Swarovski, as well as many shooters that really know optics.

Almost untouchable glass quality. In fact I really don't know who makes clearer glass. Therefore Swaro observation devices are extraordinary.

Swaro is lacking in controls, in rifle scopes. If you want to dial corrections they play second fiddle to many other brands. They don't have much travel, and they have, in the past, had unreliable tracking. But if you are the guy, like most, that zero a scope, and never touch the controls again, they will probably do a great job for you, as others have mentioned in this thread.


I agree, if you will be twisting knobs, look at the x-5 if swaRO is your love


"I ain't here for a long time, I'm here for a good time"
King George Strait


Re: Swarovski Z5 or Z6? [Re: dashing dog] #6883338
09/10/17 07:02 PM
09/10/17 07:02 PM
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 1,230
West Texas
J
Jgraider Online content
Pro Tracker
Jgraider  Online Content
Pro Tracker
J

Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 1,230
West Texas
Love Swaro binocs, not so much the riflescopes for the reasons FiremanJG mentions. The only scope I've had go bonkers in the field, on a hunt, was a 1" SwaroA. If you're gonna dial a lot, NF, SWFA SS, or Bushy Tacticals are the ticket. For set and forget, Leupold's will work great.

All that being said, if you just want a Swaro, get one.

Re: Swarovski Z5 or Z6? [Re: dashing dog] #6883424
09/10/17 10:19 PM
09/10/17 10:19 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 5,377
DFW
D
DocHorton Online content
THF Trophy Hunter
DocHorton  Online Content
THF Trophy Hunter
D

Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 5,377
DFW
I have a Swaro Z5 for sale in the classifieds right now, it's basically brand new. PM me and we can make a deal and I will save you some money.

Re: Swarovski Z5 or Z6? [Re: dashing dog] #6884207
09/11/17 05:57 PM
09/11/17 05:57 PM
Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 38
Louisiana
B
Ben SportOptics Offline
Light Foot
Ben SportOptics  Offline
Light Foot
B

Joined: Apr 2016
Posts: 38
Louisiana
The Z5 is made specifically to be a very lightweight scope. Hence the 1" tube. Does not have a lot of adjustment. The Z6 does have Swarovksi's True ED glass the Z5 does not. The Z6 does have a little more adjustment as well. Dashing dog, I stated above that the Z6 has the true ED glass. The Z5 has excellent glass for daytime and lowlight performance. I have never had any complaints or felt like I needed more performance out of a Z5. The Ballistic Turret models are designed to be cranked up and down repeatedly. I have not had any issues with repeatability. I have also not had any customers call with issues on repeatability. If there were issues they must have been resolved. I hope this helps and puts your mind at ease. I truely do not see you being disappointed or wanting more out of either scope.


Re: Swarovski Z5 or Z6? [Re: dashing dog] #6886609
09/13/17 11:28 PM
09/13/17 11:28 PM
Joined: May 2017
Posts: 804
Texas
S
Smokey Bear Offline
Tracker
Smokey Bear  Offline
Tracker
S

Joined: May 2017
Posts: 804
Texas
Dashing Dog, in low light the Z-5 will do well. The real advantage of a 30mm tube is added travel in the erector system for the guy that is dialing elevation at long range and comes at the expense of added weight. It is a non factor in low light. A larger diameter objective lens will allow you to be able to see in lower light at higher magnification. Again it comes at the price of added size and weight. I'm not sure what the end goal of your set up is but for great optical clarity and low light use you will like the Swarovski. It is one of the tops in that arena. That is what Swarovski has earned its reputation on. A trim 1" tube is plenty for that. Dialing elevation at long range is where you get use out of the additional adjustment of a 30mm tube. On most hunting rifles it is additional adjustment that never gets used. In the end it depends on how you plan to use it. I will second what fireman said. For dedicated long range shooters, where tracking takes priority over optical clarity, and low light performance, there are other brands that the long range crowd judge more useful, and have a bigger following.


Smokey Bear---Lone Star State.
Re: Swarovski Z5 or Z6? [Re: Ben SportOptics] #6891806
09/19/17 11:24 AM
09/19/17 11:24 AM
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 14,323
Frisco, Texas
B
Buzzsaw Online content
THF Celebrity
Buzzsaw  Online Content
THF Celebrity
B

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 14,323
Frisco, Texas
Originally Posted By: Ben SportOptics
The Z5 is made specifically to be a very lightweight scope. Hence the 1" tube. Does not have a lot of adjustment. The Z6 does have Swarovksi's True ED glass the Z5 does not. The Z6 does have a little more adjustment as well. Dashing dog, I stated above that the Z6 has the true ED glass. The Z5 has excellent glass for daytime and lowlight performance. I have never had any complaints or felt like I needed more performance out of a Z5. The Ballistic Turret models are designed to be cranked up and down repeatedly. I have not had any issues with repeatability. I have also not had any customers call with issues on repeatability. If there were issues they must have been resolved. I hope this helps and puts your mind at ease. I truely do not see you being disappointed or wanting more out of either scope.


No argument, but I have plenty of "adjustment"



"I ain't here for a long time, I'm here for a good time"
King George Strait


Re: Swarovski Z5 or Z6? [Re: dashing dog] #6893041
09/20/17 11:39 AM
09/20/17 11:39 AM
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 14,323
Frisco, Texas
B
Buzzsaw Online content
THF Celebrity
Buzzsaw  Online Content
THF Celebrity
B

Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 14,323
Frisco, Texas
Europtics.com is clearing out their Z-6 line to make room for the new Z-8. Call Keefer, tell him Buzz sent you


"I ain't here for a long time, I'm here for a good time"
King George Strait


Re: Swarovski Z5 or Z6? [Re: dashing dog] #6893058
09/20/17 12:05 PM
09/20/17 12:05 PM
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 25,246
Corsicana
N
Nogalus Prairie Offline
THF Celebrity
Nogalus Prairie  Offline
THF Celebrity
N

Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 25,246
Corsicana
Need to know more about your hunting style, needs, range for shooting, etc. before the question can be answered.

I will say that probably 90% of hunters do not need to spend the extra $$ for the Z6.


Originally Posted By: Russ79
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.


Re: Swarovski Z5 or Z6? [Re: dashing dog] #6893098
09/20/17 01:11 PM
09/20/17 01:11 PM
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 3,132
Colleyville, TX
B
BarneyWho Online content
Veteran Tracker
BarneyWho  Online Content
Veteran Tracker
B

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 3,132
Colleyville, TX
I recently bought a Z6. I can finally say I have a scope with the glass quality of my Leica Geovid HDs. If glass clarity and light transmission is what you are after, I've yet to find one better. I can't comment on repeat-ability of dialing elevation as I haven't shot with it much.


Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread


© 2004-2019 OUTDOOR SITES NETWORK all rights reserved USA and Worldwide
UBB.threads™ 7.6.2