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Question for those in Law Enforcement. #6667865 02/09/17 12:38 PM
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Not asking if you carry a back up gun but what you would consider a good back up gun and where would you carry it? Three of my buddies are still active duty LEO's and I'm wanting to get them a little something extra to carry just in case. Last ditch protection if you know what I mean.


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My former agency issued the Glock 26 for that purpose. It was a pretty hefty secondary weapon though.

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We carry glock 22s so most back up guns are 27s. Too bulky for me though so I carry a 43.

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Most of the guys I know are more old school and carry revolvers as a back up. Like a s&w 442 or similar

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Quality hammerless revolver.

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Originally Posted By: 7mag
Quality hammerless revolver.


That is my backup as well

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For what it is worth, at one time the state of Louisiana issued their state patrolman a High Standard derringer 22 magnum. Following link might be of interest.

http://www.darkcanyon.net/handguns_by_skeeter_skelton_mar_1967.htm

I always thought LEO Skelton spoke from personal experience rather than trying to imitate what others...

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Most agencies will have certain brands they can carry. With that being said a Smith and Wesson hammerless revolver is probably most ideal imo. I see most being carried in the vest or on the ankle. The revolver doesn't jam and the airlight models are hardly noticeable when wearing.
I see a few carrying subcompacts but imo some are to thick to wear comfortably.

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Originally Posted By: blackcoal
For what it is worth, at one time the state of Louisiana issued their state patrolman a High Standard derringer 22 magnum. Following link might be of interest.

http://www.darkcanyon.net/handguns_by_skeeter_skelton_mar_1967.htm

I always thought LEO Skelton spoke from personal experience rather than trying to imitate what others...

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That's more along the lines of what I was thinking, something that rides in the pocket unnoticed.


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A perspective on a semi vs. a wheel gun. I carry a Sig 45. It has never failed me. With that stated though anything with a magazine can/has/will jam up.

A revolver goes bang every time. Sweat, dirt or tears it will shoot. Not many rounds but if your in a jam you probably only need that one or 2 rounds at less then 15 feet. Just my opinion though.


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For what it is worth, at one time the state of Louisiana issued their state patrolman a High Standard derringer 22 magnum. Following link might be of interest.

http://www.darkcanyon.net/handguns_by_skeeter_skelton_mar_1967.htm

I always thought LEO Skelton spoke from personal experience rather than trying to imitate what others...

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That's more along the lines of what I was thinking, something that rides in the pocket unnoticed.


That would definitely not be a Glock. lol

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For what it is worth, at one time the state of Louisiana issued their state patrolman a High Standard derringer 22 magnum. Following link might be of interest.

http://www.darkcanyon.net/handguns_by_skeeter_skelton_mar_1967.htm

I always thought LEO Skelton spoke from personal experience rather than trying to imitate what others...

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That's more along the lines of what I was thinking, something that rides in the pocket unnoticed.


That would definitely not be a Glock. lol


Maybe I'm thinking wrong here but I was thinking small pocket pistol.

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I carry the kel-tec 32 as a back up weapon and it fits perfect in either my front pants pocket or in the extra velcro shirt pocket on my uniform. I also carry it in my pocket wherever I go off duty

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I carry the kel-tec 32 as a back up weapon and it fits perfect in either my front pants pocket or in the extra velcro shirt pocket on my uniform. I also carry it in my pocket wherever I go off duty


I've got a little Kel-Tec 380 and it does ride nice in the pocket and it goes bang every time the trigger is pulled. Might be on the list.


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Try to find out if company policy is involved before decision. Again, brand and caliber

Any chance of a back up is better than none

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Try to find out if company policy is involved before decision. Again, brand and caliber

Any chance of a back up is better than none





Will do.


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We carry Glock 22 on duty, I would love to have a Glock 43 as a backup. Hopefully I will make it happen in the near future.

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Many moons ago, while out on the street with the Sheriff's Dept., I carried a Mod 36 S&W with a bobbed hammer in an ankle holster! In the winter when wearing a jacket it was in a shoulder rig! up

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Originally Posted By: HWY_MAN
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For what it is worth, at one time the state of Louisiana issued their state patrolman a High Standard derringer 22 magnum. Following link might be of interest.

http://www.darkcanyon.net/handguns_by_skeeter_skelton_mar_1967.htm

I always thought LEO Skelton spoke from personal experience rather than trying to imitate what others...

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That's more along the lines of what I was thinking, something that rides in the pocket unnoticed.


The pocket is about the worst place to carry a backup pistol for numerous reasons. A backup pistol needs to be accessible in almost every situation just like the duty pistol.
- If you are attacked in the patrol vehicle, it does happen, then the backup is inaccessible.
- Standing it's almost impossible for me to get my hand in my pocket with all the other gear. The Taser holster and gun holster block both pockets.
- If engaged in a fight on the ground, I always try to keep my hand on or near my duty pistol so the bad guy doesn't take it, once again pocket holster would be hard to remove from pocket.

Places I have carried a backup that I liked were:
- Outside of the ankle on the off hand, for me that would be outside of left ankle. It's accessible in the car, during a fight it's easier to get to while protecting the duty gun.
- Also, on my vest under my shirt, pretty easy to get with both hands but was oriented for off hand draw.

I do know officers that carry a backup in the cargo pocket. I don't personally because I don't any that thing banging against me while in a foot chase and I think Class B uniforms just look tacky.

As far as where the officer carries it, its personal preference, and they will go through more holsters and locations than you can imagine.

I can't tell you what I have carried (revolver) because it's not approved by my department. But they are great for contact shots, which is the main reason I carried a backup (don't currently carry one hammer) . It's a get off me gun and an absolute last ditch effort when the duty pistol fails and I don't have the shotgun or rifle.

Just my 2cents

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For what it is worth, at one time the state of Louisiana issued their state patrolman a High Standard derringer 22 magnum. Following link might be of interest.

http://www.darkcanyon.net/handguns_by_skeeter_skelton_mar_1967.htm

I always thought LEO Skelton spoke from personal experience rather than trying to imitate what others...

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That's more along the lines of what I was thinking, something that rides in the pocket unnoticed.


That would definitely not be a Glock. lol


Maybe I'm thinking wrong here but I was thinking small pocket pistol.


I have a S&W 637 for this exact reason. If I'm wearing shorts I can just throw it in my pocket. My regular off duty gun though is a Glock 43

edit: are you asking this for while they are working or while they are off duty?

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are you asking this for while they are working or while they are off duty?


I was thinking on duty.


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Pretty awesome of you.


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