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.308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/02/17 07:02 PM
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So I have been seeing a lot of feedback on here against an AR platform for deer hunting even in .308.
Why is it so disliked for deer hunting? Of course, if someone is unloading the entire magazine, then yes I understand LOL
But one shot one kill, why does it matter the platform?
I like my .308 in AR platform just because I only have to take one rifle if I am going to hunt hogs at night and deer in the day on a trip...
I seriously cannot understand the issue...
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/02/17 07:10 PM
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I'm with you man. I hunt with a suppressed 308 ar. Good for deer great for hogs!
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/02/17 07:15 PM
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Well, I have been hunting with ARs for about 8 years a lot.. Mainly a 6.8 but last year I got a 308..
There is something I feel more, "right" (traditional) about using a bolt action for deer. I think it' just a nostalgic thing. A lot of people also assume they don't shoot that well. My 308 (18" Wilson Combat) will bust oranges at 500 yards, so, that mutes that point.
Having said that, I hunted more with a bolt this year and will probably do the same this weekend for deer. My son only wants to shoot his 6.8..
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/02/17 07:32 PM
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I've killed almost every one of my deer the last two years with an AR in 6.8 SPC (suppressed). I got some bad looks from my dad questioning my 'black carbine'. It's a perception thing, mostly.
Outside of the 'black gun' argument, the only knocks on the AR10 platform are that they're not all standard and they're usually heavy.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/02/17 07:48 PM
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Outside of the 'black gun' argument, the only knocks on the AR10 platform are that they're not all standard and they're usually heavy. You are 100% correct on that!
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/02/17 08:29 PM
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Outside of the 'black gun' argument, the only knocks on the AR10 platform are that they're not all standard and they're usually heavy. You are 100% correct on that! Both of you are correct and I am agreeing with you, however, I'm old and this is what I see. A standard rifle..used for pleasure and hunting. A AR rifle, a combat weapon used for overkill.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/02/17 08:30 PM
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Outside of the 'black gun' argument, the only knocks on the AR10 platform are that they're not all standard and they're usually heavy. You are 100% correct on that! Both of you are correct and I am agreeing with you, however, I'm old and this is what I see. A standard rifle..used for pleasure and hunting. A AR rifle, a combat weapon used for overkill. Wouldn't it only be overkill if you throw in the 20 round clip for deer hunting?
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/02/17 08:40 PM
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Outside of the 'black gun' argument, the only knocks on the AR10 platform are that they're not all standard and they're usually heavy. You are 100% correct on that! Both of you are correct and I am agreeing with you, however, I'm old and this is what I see. A standard rifle..used for pleasure and hunting. A AR rifle, a combat weapon used for overkill. Wouldn't it only be overkill if you throw in the 20 round clip for deer hunting? This is my thoughts. I use a 10 round magazine which is plenty for hog hunting, predator hunting and deer hunting combined. And I keep 10 extra rounds on my stock cover for at night if I need more than the 10 in the magazine....
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/02/17 08:42 PM
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Outside of the 'black gun' argument, the only knocks on the AR10 platform are that they're not all standard and they're usually heavy. You are 100% correct on that! Both of you are correct and I am agreeing with you, however, I'm old and this is what I see. A standard rifle..used for pleasure and hunting. A AR rifle, a combat weapon used for overkill. Wouldn't it only be overkill if you throw in the 20 round clip for deer hunting? I would agree with you if I was unloading a 20 round magazine into a deer and screaming AMERICAAAAAAAA while doing it. But one trigger pull and one kill for deer, and sometimes all 10 rounds for a group of hogs in a field (I use a 10 round magazine).
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/02/17 09:00 PM
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Review of bolt guns compared to AR the weight is close. Bolts are around 7.5-8.5 pounds, AR 8-9.5 pounds. I don't see that big of a deal. It's just the "Black Gun" looks. Of course you have the ones that like to look macho with a 20-30 mag stuck in them, can't fix stupid.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/02/17 09:39 PM
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Lots of interesting discussion here. Very little of it makes a lick of sense.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/02/17 10:46 PM
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I run a 10rd mag and usually only put in 3-4 rounds for deer hunting.. First time I went hunting with my dad with my 6.8 he definitely was scratching his head
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/02/17 11:19 PM
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I have no disdain for using an AR-10 for white tail hunting. I think if your going to video hunts for the public it's important to consider your audience that you want to watch. And your sponsors if they are giving you free stuff. I think since your sponsor is ATN for their night vision stuff you should stick to hog hunting videos to satisfy your sponsor and have an audience that won't be turned off by your AR-10. I carry one for hog eradication while deer hunting. I can easily shoot 2-3 in a group that is much more difficult with my bolt gun. And it's awful fun with the 308 178 grain Amax that Chad loaded for me. It rolls them over like a freight train.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/03/17 01:48 AM
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I have never had any of the deer I've shot complain. Not a single one. Since they seem to be OK with it I think I will keep using my AR10.
They make ammo specifically for hunting for a reason!
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/03/17 01:57 AM
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I think it's more the combination of your complete lack of knowledge and using an AR platform that brings out the negativity.
You're basically taking someone that clearly doesn't know anything about deer and adding to that the use of a non-traditional deer gun and trying to represent oneself as a production-level hunter by putting out videos that are just dumb to anyone that's hunted any amount.
It's too much.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/03/17 02:07 AM
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308 is great choice. AR10, bit heavy for me to lug around. I also use 6.8
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/03/17 02:14 AM
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I have 3 AR's that I take out from time to time. Just doesn't feel the same taking it out for deer. Even feels a little weird slung over the shoulder. Maybe it is where the mag hits me in my back. To each its own, it really doesn't matter to me what someone uses. I know I am more old school and times are a passin.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/03/17 02:44 AM
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Jt, Maybe its just the combination of the 10 round magazine and the 10 round stock wrap.
Wouldn't it be easier to just carry two 10 round magazines?
For the record I don't have a problem with any legal gun being used....
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/03/17 02:52 AM
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I have 3 AR's that I take out from time to time. Just doesn't feel the same taking it out for deer. Even feels a little weird slung over the shoulder. Maybe it is where the mag hits me in my back. To each its own, it really doesn't matter to me what someone uses. I know I am more old school and times are a passin. I feel the same way. It's like riding your tractor to the deer stand. No doubt it will do the job, but why use it when there's a more traditional and logical solution.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/03/17 03:14 AM
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I love my ARs and have killed deer with them but I really like yo carry my bolt gun while deer hunting specifically. Nothing against ARs just my preference.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/03/17 03:51 AM
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It wasn't till I bought an AR that I figured out what was wrong with ARs. And it wasn't a mag poking me in the back for the 100 yard walk to the blind. The AR hunters I had were dressed in military camos, had a pistol strapped to their leg and looked like Inspector Gadget Goes to War. They talked stories of running head shots at 200 yards that was unbelievable. "If 20 pigs come, none will leave" drove me nuts, and "where the red dot points, the bullet goes" were heard more than once. But they couldn't hit a broadside hog at 75 yards in broad daylight with their SBR. After I had an AR and several kills, it was clear... it was the hunter with a problem, not the gun. I have had a few really good AR hunters that have really impressed me. It took a while for the stereotype to wear thin. I still prefer my bolt guns, personal preference.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/03/17 04:10 AM
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It wasn't till I bought an AR that I figured out what was wrong with ARs. And it wasn't a mag poking me in the back for the 100 yard walk to the blind. The AR hunters I had were dressed in military camos, had a pistol strapped to their leg and looked like Inspector Gadget Goes to War. They talked stories of running head shots at 200 yards that was unbelievable. "If 20 pigs come, none will leave" drove me nuts, and "where the red dot points, the bullet goes" were heard more than once. But they couldn't hit a broadside hog at 75 yards in broad daylight with their SBR. After I had an AR and several kills, it was clear... it was the hunter with a problem, not the gun. I have had a few really good AR hunters that have really impressed me. It took a while for the stereotype to wear thin. I still prefer my bolt guns, personal preference. carrying a rifle of any sort on your back is pointless. Should carry it across your chest if using a sling at either the low ready or high ready it's more comfortable and effective if you need to quickly fire your weapon and to maintain muzzle control at all times.
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/03/17 04:11 AM
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i don't have any disdain for a .308 in an ar. i'd probably have one myself if they didn't cost so much. i say use what ever you want to as long as you can put your animal down with one shot.
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02/03/17 04:12 AM
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The gun is the tool. I respect the person holding the gun and how they act
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Re: .308 in an AR platform for deer... Why the disdain?
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02/03/17 04:25 AM
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So using a 50 BMG bolt gun is ok to shoot deer with but not a semi auto 308? Pretty damn silly to me. A gun is a gun, dead is dead...use what you want as long as it is a legal and an ethical kill...
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