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Thoughts on what went wrong #6656261 01/31/17 10:54 PM
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I saw this buck during the season, but never got a really good look at him. I knew something was wrong, but the pics confirm it. Do you think this was some type of injury when the antler first came through or is there something else going wrong here? It almost looks like the pedicle is pointing down. What says the THF?




Re: Thoughts on what went wrong [Re: js4242] #6656295 01/31/17 11:21 PM
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I bet he hopes he drops it soon. Next year will probably be even worse.

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Hit by a car, caught in a hog trap, stuck in a fence,....something that caused trauma to the skull....as don said....probably be worse next year....


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It's just kids these days. Think they have to be different.

Re: Thoughts on what went wrong [Re: js4242] #6656821 02/01/17 11:46 AM
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I shot a deer similar to that once. When he did the Euro we discovered that his antler had broken off and reattached by his eye. You could clearly see where the antler had been before. Oddly that antler, although misplaced, grew somewhat normal. The antler on the other side he never rubbed the velvet off of it.


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Re: Thoughts on what went wrong [Re: js4242] #6656880 02/01/17 01:04 PM
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Weird. We have one running around that has a nose deformation, i'll try to get a pic. He looks like he has the biggest roman nose you ever saw but in reality its some kind of defect

Re: Thoughts on what went wrong [Re: js4242] #6657087 02/01/17 03:15 PM
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It appears that he broke the pedicle that the antler originates from, probably from fighting but could also be a car, hung in fence, etc. Don't think it will be worse next year, as there is a good chance he will develop an abscess and die before then (fractures to the skull often end that way). But, if he can avoid and abscess, he can survive it (he obviously survived the initial trauma). In that case antler growth will never be the same on that side. Whichever direction the bone re-ossifies is the direction the antler will grow, which is sometimes bad if a tine grows back towards the skin. Another very interesting thing that can happen is if some of the pedicle cells displace to an abnormal location, trauma-induced antler development can occur. This is usually what happens with unicorn deer (3 pedicles). In other cases, antler growth has been generated at different locations around the skull and even from the neck.


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So would that be considered legal for an AR county? Is the overall spread over 13" even though its not outside the ears?


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Be a cool euro. Interesting question on the AR.....Looks like that messed up side would be considered a spike anyway.

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Thanks for the responses. I think he's branched on both sides. The first pic shows it best

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[img]https://texashuntingforum.com/forum/pics/usergals/2017/02/full-5355-91930-deformed_deer.jpg[/img

Same thing happened to me last year...after recovery, found that it had been broken most likely during the growth / velvet phase as it would easily wiggle back and forth.

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I killed one just like that this year. The pedicle was broke from the skull. My wife and I had been watching this buck for 4 years and I finally got a shot. The strange thing is, the buck never shed the broke antler, he kept it year round.

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I swear that looks exactly like a buck we saw on our Kerr county spot. We named him Unicorn. Where are you hunting? And I'm shocked to hear this is common



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Originally Posted By: Sneaky
It's just kids these days. Think they have to be different.
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Don't see a problem on AR. That is at least a thirteen inch spread..........kinda

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Originally Posted By: Trash Fish and Cull Bucks
It appears that he broke the pedicle that the antler originates from, probably from fighting but could also be a car, hung in fence, etc. Don't think it will be worse next year, as there is a good chance he will develop an abscess and die before then (fractures to the skull often end that way). But, if he can avoid and abscess, he can survive it (he obviously survived the initial trauma). In that case antler growth will never be the same on that side. Whichever direction the bone re-ossifies is the direction the antler will grow, which is sometimes bad if a tine grows back towards the skin. Another very interesting thing that can happen is if some of the pedicle cells displace to an abnormal location, trauma-induced antler development can occur. This is usually what happens with unicorn deer (3 pedicles). In other cases, antler growth has been generated at different locations around the skull and even from the neck.


This! Outstanding explanation, sir up

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Originally Posted By: Grizzley0531
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It's just kids these days. Think they have to be different.
roflmao

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