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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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01/01/17 03:06 AM
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Love how some of these so called "low-fence" guys are so quick to want to shoot an escaped deer as in the Deer hunting post. I guess we shouldn't catch Bass in man made lakes and should only fish natural Rivers. I would answer the 3yr old in a way that would encourage him being in the outdoors and away from video games etc. Good luck and enjoy hunting the way that you want to and relax, you live in the USA. I have some bass over 10 pounds in the tank behind my house. I don't consider them in the same trophy catagory as the 10lb.+ fish I've caught on Amistad and Fork. Nor would I hang one on my wall and brag about it. I feel the same way about deer shot on a high fence. I've guided on high fence but don't consider those trophys in the same catigory as free ranging animals. I could care less what others do with their money. But I'm not impressed with the freaks of nature I see hanging in some of my customers offices bought and paid for by vendors. It's not the same no matter how bad some want it to be. Nailed it. I just don't get excited about HF deer
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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01/01/17 01:26 PM
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I have both HF and LF property. I have a couple of feeders that throw out corn in the HF. I have one on the LF property. I could leave the computer now and go over there and shoot a minimum of 3 does and be back here within 30 minutes. I could go to the HF and I might be able to get one today. Now how is that easier? Deer on LF that are addicted to a free handout of feed are no longer free range. Cut off the feeder for a few weeks then brag about killing a free range deer. Don't hunt out of the truck or blind then brag about free range. But until then you are just trying to put yourself on a pedestal which you don't deserve.
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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01/01/17 01:56 PM
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Thanks yall ill take her to wat i can afford Right now its hf 1200 acres. Thanks everyone Thats great, I hope you and your wife have a wonderful time and good luck to the Mrs
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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01/01/17 02:18 PM
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My Whatever floats your boat My preference: My ex BIL has 1200 HF. He let me shoot a management buck around 135 class, I thoroughly enjoyed it I hunt 80 acres and see a lot of deer almost every year, I get more excited when I see a nice buck there than on the BIL HF. A long time ago on here I read a post where they were selling elk hunts on a 150 acres HF. Three bulls to choose from and you can either hunt from one of their blinds or spot and stalk. That's not for me, but if it gets someone else excited about it good for them
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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01/01/17 03:07 PM
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Why are we getting the terms "high fence" and "hunting" confused again? I respect people as human beings who harvest on hf. But as a hunter, i have 0 respect
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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01/01/17 03:24 PM
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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01/01/17 04:38 PM
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Why are we getting the terms "high fence" and "hunting" confused again? I respect people as human beings who harvest on hf. But as a hunter, i have 0 respect Do you use a feeder to attract Deer?
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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01/01/17 06:51 PM
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I understand both sides. I guess I am too old and too old school. I 64 and growing up never liked high fence situations. I have never persecuted anyone for hunting high fence but I never have and never will hunt that situation. Just not for me, that's all.
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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01/01/17 07:24 PM
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Aggie: I fully understand and respect your position. What I don't understand, or respect, is those who are essentially saying: it doesn't matters what the size of the enclosure is. It doesn't matter what the other circumstances are. It doesn't matter whether the game is baited at feeder's. It doesn't matter what weapons or technology, or other advantages the hunter uses It doesn't matter the difficulty or challenge of the hunt. It doesn't matter how tame the game might be. All that matters is the fence. if there is a fence, it's not fair chase , if there is not, it is "hunting".
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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01/01/17 07:50 PM
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Why are we getting the terms "high fence" and "hunting" confused again? I respect people as human beings who harvest on hf. But as a hunter, i have 0 respect By definition lake Grapevine public COE is technically HF due to lake one side and miles of house and metroplex on Three side. So basically anyone that hunts out there isn't a hunter? Even though it's some of the hardest hunting in the state Pretty shallow opinion. But then again most elitist opinions are just that elitist-- I'm better then you opinions. But then again that's why few deer get posted on this site compared to what use to get posted.. there is some elitist that will take pop shots about HF, large ranch, guided, big money lease etc... someone always looking to degrade a fellow hunter. No body is happy for anyone anymore... sad state of affairs. But hold your head high Mr Hunter, you're a bad [censored]
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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01/01/17 08:05 PM
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Who cares what others think. Hunt how you want and what your conscious is good with. Don't worry about how others qualify your hunting. If it's a legal means of hunting, have fun.
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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01/01/17 08:06 PM
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Who cares what others think. Hunt how you want and what your conscious is good with. Don't worry about how others qualify your hunting. If it's a legal means of hunting, have fun. This^^^ seems so simple
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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01/01/17 08:24 PM
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Who cares what others think. Hunt how you want and what your conscious is good with. Don't worry about how others qualify your hunting. If it's a legal means of hunting, have fun. This^^^ seems so simple Yup
"Man is still a hunter, still a simple searcher after meat..." Robert C. Ruark
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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01/01/17 08:33 PM
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I agree with John on this one. I may have no stomach for it but I'm all for capitalism and can't blame the high fence owners for earning some money. I do think its ridiculous when these "hunters" get driven to a blind, sit for an hour, shoot a record buck, hang it on the wall and brag how they are a "Great Hunter"
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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01/01/17 08:38 PM
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Love how some of these so called "low-fence" guys are so quick to want to shoot an escaped deer as in the Deer hunting post. I guess we shouldn't catch Bass in man made lakes and should only fish natural Rivers. I would answer the 3yr old in a way that would encourage him being in the outdoors and away from video games etc. Good luck and enjoy hunting the way that you want to and relax, you live in the USA. I have some bass over 10 pounds in the tank behind my house. I don't consider them in the same trophy catagory as the 10lb.+ fish I've caught on Amistad and Fork. Nor would I hang one on my wall and brag about it. I feel the same way about deer shot on a high fence. I've guided on high fence but don't consider those trophys in the same catigory as free ranging animals. I could care less what others do with their money. But I'm not impressed with the freaks of nature I see hanging in some of my customers offices bought and paid for by vendors. It's not the same no matter how bad some want it to be. Nailed it. I just don't get excited about HF deer Agree with this position 100%. I have hunted on HF but just view it as different.
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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01/01/17 09:14 PM
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Love how some of these so called "low-fence" guys are so quick to want to shoot an escaped deer as in the Deer hunting post. I guess we shouldn't catch Bass in man made lakes and should only fish natural Rivers. I would answer the 3yr old in a way that would encourage him being in the outdoors and away from video games etc. Good luck and enjoy hunting the way that you want to and relax, you live in the USA. I have some bass over 10 pounds in the tank behind my house. I don't consider them in the same trophy catagory as the 10lb.+ fish I've caught on Amistad and Fork. Nor would I hang one on my wall and brag about it. I feel the same way about deer shot on a high fence. I've guided on high fence but don't consider those trophys in the same catigory as free ranging animals. I could care less what others do with their money. But I'm not impressed with the freaks of nature I see hanging in some of my customers offices bought and paid for by vendors. It's not the same no matter how bad some want it to be. Nailed it. I just don't get excited about HF deer Agree with this position 100%. I have hunted on HF but just view it as different. Everybody views it as different. Deer should be compared to deer off that ranch and nowhere else. Comparing a hf to a lf does not make sense. Comparing a south Texas buck to a hill country buck does not make sense. Comparing a Texas buck to a Canadian buck does not make sense. I've hunted low fence south Texas ranches where a 150 buck did not excite me and I've hunted hf hill country where a 140 made my heart skip a beat. It's all different and hunting is all about the experience.
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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01/01/17 10:21 PM
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I agree with John on this one. I may have no stomach for it but I'm all for capitalism and can't blame the high fence owners for earning some money. I do think its ridiculous when these "hunters" get driven to a blind, sit for an hour, shoot a record buck, hang it on the wall and brag how they are a "Great Hunter" I'm very confident John Wayne never said that.
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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Girl band, strawberry pajamas, one chord made into a solo, and, the '70's. This group has it all.
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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01/01/17 11:10 PM
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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Very, very, few people are good hunters -- or ever have been. Old timers killed deer in the course of their farming or ranching activities. Early sport hunters used hounds and did drives or just sat in the woods. Of course you had guys like Roosevelt, but for them getting to the hunting area by train, then coach, then on horseback was most of the work. Celebrity hunters like O'Connor started the legend of the skilled hunter but when it actually comes down to it, he made hunting difficult by going after the biggest animals in remote locations. Any skill was provided by his guides (aside from shooting skill, of which he had plenty of), and the guides skill just consisted of knowing the animals' habits and location
To me real hunting skill consists of being able to track, or still hunt, or one man drives in canyons, etc.
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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01/02/17 12:15 AM
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What most people consider "real" hunting in Texas is what I would call earning a buck by hard work. Deciding where to put up blinds and feeders and cameras, creating food plots, becoming good shots, then targeting a particular buck and putting in time in the blind or tripod.
To me, none of that is skill.
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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As far as HF vs LF goes, since most of us hunt over feeders or food plots or crop fields and any deer that walks out of our shooting area is "gone", it seems a moot point as far as proving "skill" is concerned.
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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According to imdb, John Wayne's entire quote was "A man's got to have a code, a creed to live by, no matter his job." Nothing to do with hunting.
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Re: Your opinion on High fence deer vs low fence deer?
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According to imdb, John Wayne's entire quote was "A man's got to have a code, a creed to live by, no matter his job." Nothing to do with hunting. Yep, that other one is just a combination of his and others' quotes all thrown together. It always seems to show up in the HF/LF threads.
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