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Re: Neighbors and outfitter are ruining neighboring deer hunting land! [Re: maximus_flavius] #6576505 12/07/16 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted By: maximus_flavius
Sad. They will shoot until nothing is left. Now multiply that about 10 times per county, & that is the future of Texas deer hunting.

And people cry about ARs! confused2

Re: Neighbors and outfitter are ruining neighboring deer hunting land! [Re: hogcaller10] #6576903 12/08/16 02:50 AM
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If you really expect this to continue and there is no other option and you can't HF, why not lease yours out for less and in a couple of years take your profits to help buy your neighbors place or use the profits to HF your place? Not the best solution but it helps you in the long run.

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Re: Neighbors and outfitter are ruining neighboring deer hunting land! [Re: hogcaller10] #6577537 12/08/16 04:48 PM
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If you really want to make them mad, drop off your freshly cleaned carcasses as close to their deer blinds on your side of the fence.


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Re: Neighbors and outfitter are ruining neighboring deer hunting land! [Re: hogcaller10] #6577634 12/08/16 05:39 PM
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It's hard to get away from this type of scenario, whether it's outfitters or just other hunters, who don't share your management goals. Went through the same thing over the past couple years. Our place joined a small place on 2 sides and we supplied deer for the guys friends, family, clients and whoever they brought. They killed young bucks no matter what they were. It got old seeing 2.5 yo bucks hanging up every weekend. We bought the place, problem solved! I know that's not always realistic, but it sure is nice.


Re: Neighbors and outfitter are ruining neighboring deer hunting land! [Re: hogcaller10] #6577830 12/08/16 07:55 PM
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As long as they are legal, you are wasting your time complaining.


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Re: Neighbors and outfitter are ruining neighboring deer hunting land! [Re: hogcaller10] #6577836 12/08/16 07:58 PM
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up What he said!


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Re: Neighbors and outfitter are ruining neighboring deer hunting land! [Re: hogcaller10] #6578587 12/09/16 06:34 AM
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Wow!! That's bad. There are lots of good outfitters that won't do this...and lots of outfitters that put up with the same nonsense from neighbors and river hunters alike. Sure there are guys that have too many deer and can let them go cheap, but wonder how many are doing the same as this guy.

Re: Neighbors and outfitter are ruining neighboring deer hunting land! [Re: Canis Guapo] #6578792 12/09/16 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted By: Canis Guapo
Wow!! That's bad. There are lots of good outfitters that won't do this...and lots of outfitters that put up with the same nonsense from neighbors and river hunters alike. Sure there are guys that have too many deer and can let them go cheap, but wonder how many are doing the same as this guy.


Where are you located in Wilbarger County?

Re: Neighbors and outfitter are ruining neighboring deer hunting land! [Re: hogcaller10] #6580193 12/10/16 09:01 AM
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NW of you on the Red.

Re: Neighbors and outfitter are ruining neighboring deer hunting land! [Re: hogcaller10] #6580233 12/10/16 12:35 PM
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North of Harrold I'm guessing? Around Elliott?

Re: Neighbors and outfitter are ruining neighboring deer hunting land! [Re: hogcaller10] #6581252 12/11/16 01:20 AM
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What else can you do they won't buy out of state hunting license long when deer pop drops you be ready. The big ones seem to avoid these areas. You know were they hide!


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Re: Neighbors and outfitter are ruining neighboring deer hunting land! [Re: hogcaller10] #6581752 12/11/16 03:41 PM
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I had the same problem a few years ago with an outfitter on an adjacent fence line. I tried to be the better person and work things out and he told me to mind my own business. I invited every friend I had in the world to come out and we legally wiped out the deer population in about two weeks. His customers saw virtually nothing for the rest of the season and his business was ruined. He left and I won. It took a few years to get the deer back and then a couple of more to improve things through proper management. Everyone for miles around knows what occurred and seems quite friendly and less money motivated.

Re: Neighbors and outfitter are ruining neighboring deer hunting land! [Re: hogcaller10] #6581781 12/11/16 04:01 PM
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Texas needs to go landowner permits rather then just county limits. Too many landowners and their lessors are putting too much pressure on the herd by putting too many hunters per acre. Now I understand that increasing an ROI is the landowners perogative but at some point the state has to help one landowner protect themselves from an adjacent landowners who are content raping a local deer population for profit and their own benefit. As you see tracts of land get more broken up this will continue to become a greater issue in Texas.

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Originally Posted By: Westtexan1
Texas needs to go landowner permits rather then just county limits. Too many landowners and their lessors are putting too much pressure on the herd by putting too many hunters per acre. Now I understand that increasing an ROI is the landowners perogative but at some point the state has to help one landowner protect themselves from an adjacent landowners who are content raping a local deer population for profit and their own benefit. As you see tracts of land get more broken up this will continue to become a greater issue in Texas.
Don't you know you could hear the squealing all over the state if they tried that. In certain areas if you owned 25 acres you would get no permit. I probably told this before but quite a few years ago there was one of our neighbors. He had 3 sons. They would shoot every buck they saw but no does. Then as their does came into heat bucks from near and far would come to their property to breed the does and they would shoot those.And don't say they could only shoot as many as they had tags for. The deer never left the ranch so never got tagged. This is a true story.

Re: Neighbors and outfitter are ruining neighboring deer hunting land! [Re: hogcaller10] #6582293 12/11/16 11:17 PM
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It does nothing to help your current situation, but I'd be in favor of legislation that tied deer tags to individual property. I guess that's a terrible idea, too now that I think it through.

Re: Neighbors and outfitter are ruining neighboring deer hunting land! [Re: hogcaller10] #6582406 12/12/16 12:36 AM
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Even if they had land owner tags, still be poaching on the places don k described.


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It does nothing to help your current situation, but I'd be in favor of legislation that tied deer tags to individual property. I guess that's a terrible idea, too now that I think it through.


I detest the idea. But that's whats gonna have to happen. There is no way (in some areas of the state) we can sustain everybody shooting all the deer they want.

Re: Neighbors and outfitter are ruining neighboring deer hunting land! [Re: Wilhunt] #6582990 12/12/16 01:40 PM
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High fence that corner of your place.


This for sure.
Yup

Re: Neighbors and outfitter are ruining neighboring deer hunting land! [Re: hogcaller10] #6583054 12/12/16 02:20 PM
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A few years ago, I was attempting to gather peas in a patch owned by in-laws. Deer had eaten most. A neighbor came by and offered me access to his pea patch. He said there were plenty. There were. I began to notice moth balls scattered about. Deer seem to hate them and avoid areas where they are, even lush pea patches. Take a sling shot and "treat" the feeders they have along the fence line. ???

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