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Re: 223 kill a deer?
[Re: finesse master]
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12/08/16 01:23 AM
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dogdown23
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What does arrow OD have to do with anything?? Its the blade width of the broad head that matters? And your a Staff Moderator? THF must be proud of you..
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Re: 223 kill a deer?
[Re: finesse master]
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12/08/16 01:26 AM
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dogdown23
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Youre the king bobotheclown.. The thread is all yours..
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Re: 223 kill a deer?
[Re: dogdown23]
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12/08/16 01:35 AM
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D6Ranch
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What does arrow OD have to do with anything?? Its the blade width of the broad head that matters? And your a Staff Moderator? THF must be proud of you.. I've been wrong a few times in my life too and sometimes my first instinct is to get angry as well. But maybe I'm wrong and Bobo hasn't killed loads of deer with what theoretically doesn't work.
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Re: 223 kill a deer?
[Re: dogdown23]
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12/08/16 03:00 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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What does arrow OD have to do with anything?? Its the blade width of the broad head that matters? And your a Staff Moderator? THF must be proud of you.. Bullets only make big holes when they either explode or hit bone. You think all those lung shot deer using mid to high renetion bullet weights shot in the lungs had 4" holes through them? . Critic 22 diameter via a obscure water buffalo reference but Brag about 2.5" broadheads.... very logical Anyway you keep telling other how they should hunt and I will just support what works, not your cup of tea? cool don't use 22 diameter caliber or 1" broadheads But telling guys that feel out MLD logs and sign CD permits that all those animals they shot are still alive. But as you said I'm an idiot. By the way CE Maximum Red's are .27 OD.
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Re: 223 kill a deer?
[Re: finesse master]
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12/08/16 03:09 AM
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don k
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I just about pissed myself when I read the "Do you feel dirty thing"
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Re: 223 kill a deer?
[Re: finesse master]
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12/08/16 03:15 AM
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dogdown23
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Ive told noone how to hunt or what to hunt with?? And I dont recall calling anyone an idiot. Thats just you putting words in peoples mouths. Ive given my opinion no more or no less than you on the subject..
Dogdown
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Re: 223 kill a deer?
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12/08/16 03:15 AM
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TXHOGSLAYER
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LETS GO BRANDON
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Re: 223 kill a deer?
[Re: finesse master]
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12/08/16 03:17 AM
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dogdown23
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We know how this works. You'll go on a rant to get the last word then close the thread.. Suprised it has happened yet.. Anyways merry Christmas to you! Happy hunting
Last edited by dogdown23; 12/08/16 03:18 AM.
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Re: 223 kill a deer?
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12/08/16 03:34 AM
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We know how this works. You'll go on a rant to get the last word then close the thread.. Suprised it has happened yet.. Anyways merry Christmas to you! Happy hunting
Happy Festivus Read attached Link above...
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Re: 223 kill a deer?
[Re: dogdown23]
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12/08/16 03:45 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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We know how this works. You'll go on a rant to get the last word then close the thread.. Suprised it has happened yet.. Anyways merry Christmas to you! Happy hunting
And happy Holidays to you to sir. I'm not the thread locker or banner I assure you. There are times I loved to be I assure you
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Re: 223 kill a deer?
[Re: don k]
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12/08/16 04:06 AM
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I just about pissed myself when I read the "Do you feel dirty thing" This sums up arguing with a Liberal Democrat on a Texas Hunting Forum
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Re: 223 kill a deer?
[Re: SniperRAB]
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12/08/16 04:34 AM
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I just about pissed myself when I read the "Do you feel dirty thing" This sums up arguing with a Liberal Democrat on a Texas Hunting Forum Now THAT is funny, and oh so true at the same time...
LETS GO BRANDON
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Re: 223 kill a deer?
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12/08/16 04:49 AM
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Can you kill a deer with a .223 on a high fenced ranch and not feel dirty? No doubt LIKE!!
Crotchety old bastidge
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Re: 223 kill a deer?
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12/08/16 04:55 AM
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I do bow hunt. A 2.3" gash through the lungs is more proficient than a pin hole through the lungs. But what do I know. Dead is dead 2.3 inch gash probably spills more blood on the ground, but a hole is a hole when its in your lungs or heart. Everything I have shot with a 223 has more than a pin hole in it as well. The bullets expand like any other just with many you never see the exit because a lot of the bullets wont penetrate that much. Several bullets are available that will give you through and through penetration with a 223 as often as a cup and core bullet on many larger calibers. I sell a lot of bison hunts. The fastest I've ever seen a bison die is with arrows. I've seen them shot with .458's, .460's, 30-338's, 338 lapua's, 300 winmags, and several smaller rounds. Arrows through the pumper always kills them faster. Just the facts ma'am.
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Re: 223 kill a deer?
[Re: finesse master]
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12/08/16 10:59 AM
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Lol apples and oranges, insults, memes, yadda, yadda...these all end up the same way. I do agree that deer hunting with a .223 is all about placement though. Place that .223 back in the safe and pick up a deer rifle.
I learned long ago you can't reason someone out of something they don't reason themselves into.
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Re: 223 kill a deer?
[Re: Nogalus Prairie]
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12/08/16 02:42 PM
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don k
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Lol apples and oranges, insults, memes, yadda, yadda...these all end up the same way. I do agree that deer hunting with a .223 is all about placement though. Place that .223 back in the safe and pick up a deer rifle. This must really be getting to you. Post this at 4:59 am? Everything is going to be OK NP. TPWS is not going to ban large caliber rifles.
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Re: 223 kill a deer?
[Re: finesse master]
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12/08/16 02:47 PM
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SniperRAB
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That's a Liberal's MO is always attempt the last word...
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Re: 223 kill a deer?
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12/08/16 03:01 PM
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REALKILLER
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55 grain sp all day long.
Recently got a gym membership, strange folks! I like to show up the roid zombies with my full motion curls with the 55lb. bells. Not their cheater short stroked light weights. It's holarious.
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Re: 223 kill a deer?
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12/08/16 03:05 PM
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The big body stops the fast light 55 gr. Sp. Guess where all the energy is collected. The shock of the .223 is devistating. Think about it. Our gov. Likes it for people.
Recently got a gym membership, strange folks! I like to show up the roid zombies with my full motion curls with the 55lb. bells. Not their cheater short stroked light weights. It's holarious.
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Re: 223 kill a deer?
[Re: therancher]
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12/08/16 03:16 PM
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BOBO the Clown
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I do bow hunt. A 2.3" gash through the lungs is more proficient than a pin hole through the lungs. But what do I know. Dead is dead 2.3 inch gash probably spills more blood on the ground, but a hole is a hole when its in your lungs or heart. Everything I have shot with a 223 has more than a pin hole in it as well. The bullets expand like any other just with many you never see the exit because a lot of the bullets wont penetrate that much. Several bullets are available that will give you through and through penetration with a 223 as often as a cup and core bullet on many larger calibers. I sell a lot of bison hunts. The fastest I've ever seen a bison die is with arrows. I've seen them shot with .458's, .460's, 30-338's, 338 lapua's, 300 winmags, and several smaller rounds. Arrows through the pumper always kills them faster. Just the facts ma'am. Quickest animal I've seenout side of head shot or spine...was a mule deer shot through the back aorta. He feel in 10 yards and looked like a crime scene. 1" broadhead. Never ran literally watched the arrow go through him took a few steps and fell. With that said rewind it and if he would of been running those 8 seconds he could of covered over 100 plus yards. Seen another mule deer shot high lung, but arrow hit back side shoulder and he startled. Ran down hill over 600 yards and crashed at bottom. On flat ground he probably wouldn't of gone 100 yards. Even with out blood was an easy track because his tracks where very deep. Compare the two and both dead probably in same amount of seconds. Shot pronghorns in heart with rifles and watched them run 200 yards until they nose hit the ground and crashed. What same shot with bows and seen them run 20 yards stop look back then fall over dead in a few seconds. Point is travel time seems to be more about if the animal startled at impact or not. My personal belief is an animal is dead the second a fatal shot(bow or rifle) is made into the vitals regardless of caliber or or broadhead size. Travel time will never be the same always varies with animal.
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Re: 223 kill a deer?
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12/08/16 03:32 PM
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Enter Standman
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Iv watched deer be shot with a 30-06 blood everywere and never to be found... also seen some drop in their tracks with a .222... get over it a well placed shot is key to killing anything... You can accomplish anything with the proper skillset and the balls to try! [video:youtube] https://www.youtube.com/shared?ci=ML2Bc3kug_w[/video]
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Re: 223 kill a deer?
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12/08/16 03:45 PM
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chital_shikari
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Do y'all remember when I joined this forum in 2011 and made a post about shooting deer in the neck with a 22-250 being better than shooting a deer behind the shoulder with a 30-06? This remind of that, though y'all were kinder on there. Got deleted so I can't reminisce about the stupid-ole-days of tween ignorance.
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Re: 223 kill a deer?
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12/08/16 04:00 PM
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chital_shikari
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I know I'll catch flack about it, but I have killed a few with the Sig P226 in 9mm... granted all but one had "pre-existing conditions", but it's a proven deer killer as well. I cured a BB doe from the preexisting condition known as "7mmRemingtonMagnum to the chest." Choot in the brain or spine and they don't go any where but down. I lost the biggest deer of my life to a shot that was a little bit too far right to hit the neck and a little bit too far left to hit high lungs. Shot was maybe 80ish yd on a South Georgia 9-pt. 64gr Power Points with my 22-250. I also shot the biggest animal I've killed with the same bullet at 30yd: a nilgai cow in South Texas with a shot right between the h*cking eyes. I like how people were saying that the 22-250 is a culling tool for skilled adults. I honestly agree 100%. I've been shooting mine since age 7 and will continue shooting it till bullets are no longer made. I've shot stuff from 30yd-200yd. I've killed rabbits and nilgai. But, I will not let anyone except my dad shoot it on game. My uncle from Pakistan gut shotted a WT spike with it in February (evil HF MLD). I had to follow it up, found it, but no blood anywhere. That same trip, I shot a doe from 108.5yd in the cranium and blew her darn brains all the way to the feeder legs. These small calibers are very potent medicine if used correctly after much, much practice, but not for someone who's just starting out. My uncle has shot tens of deer with a .223 55gr SPs and 62gr FMJs, East TX bucks. In Pakistan, he's killed hundreds of pigs with a .22LR. H*ck, a couple of years ago, a cousin of mine killed a nilgai cow with a GI M16A2 and GI FMJs. NOT an ethical, clean, or effortless kill AT ALL but it proves the point that a 223 can and will kill a deer. The thread then developed into NogalusPrairie getting on his soap box saying that it should not be done. Yeah, abortion shouldn't be done, taxation is theft, and Communism is cancer, that doesn't mean it doesn't happen or will stop happening because you want to lecture people on the internet about it. As for bows, the addax I shot a few weeks ago died faster than the aoudad my shot a few months ago. Both were chest shots. Distance was varied obviously, but a Rage 2-blade through both lungs kills em faster than a 22-250 VMAX through the shoulder: h*cking shot placement. I wasted my free period reading through this and have a government final in 2 hours. Catch y'all later
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