I wonder since Romo hurt his back if he now hunts with a 223?

I asked a question WHY people don't like the .223? It seems to be the margin of error is less (which I somewhat agree/disagree) and they will run more and have less of a blood trail than a larger round (which I agree).

A family member I know uses there ar15 for deer and use to always aim for the shoulder (so I thought). But found out over thanksgiving, since he is older now and can't move as good, he aims higher up to hit the back bone to drop them (no running off then). I think a few years back he shot a deer with it in the shoulder and it ran in the woods (maybe 50 yards in) into a creek bottom and he had a tough time getting it out.

I am young and get a little bit of enjoyment from looking for the deer (kinda like excitement from checking your trotline) and probably wouldn't mind dragging it out of the creek bottom. However my next project will be a 6.5 Grendel ar15 (if I can hide it from the wife) which I hope to use for deer.

My last 2 cents (like people have said) is shot placement and shooting. I shoot a 3/4 inch pattern at 150 yards pretty consistently. I have no worries about using it. Another family member uses a 30-06 and shoots a 2 inch pattern at 150 yards. I think that is not good and would not deer hunt if I was shooting 2 inches a 150 yards.

I may have told this before. If so bear with me. Years ago when I was outfitting I was contacted by a man that wanted to get a Buck for his son. I asked the boys age and what he shot. He said his son was 12 and the only rifle he owned was a 300 Weatherbe magnum. I said that seemed to be a lot of gun for a youth to shoot. He explained that he some shells that had 100 grain bullets in a sabot loaded for it and that the recoil would not effect the boys shooting ability. Well he came hunting and I put them on a Buck not 50 yds. from the truck. They got out and shot at the Buck. The boy missed it naturally as he was scared of the gun. The father got pissed and grabbed the gun from his son and shot the Buck square in the belly. You cannot imagine the mess a bullet traveling at over 4000 fps does to a deers guts and stomach. The moral of my long winded story is that if the Boy had been shooting a 223 he would probably gotten his first Buck and had a good experience.

Killed my first deer with a .30-30 at age 7. I don't recall any PTSD from the experience. .223s are just all the rage because of the black rifle/cheap ammo craze - so folks push them on themselves and then (sadly) on their kids as a result.

They suck as a kid's first rifle, just as a .410 sucks as a kid's first shotgun. Way better options without bothering a kid one bit when it comes to recoil.

Long thread, but short answer is yes. My son dropped a doe in her tracks this season with a 40 grain ballistic tip at 55 yards high shoulder. It was beautiful

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I've seen kids make a lot of piss poor shots with .22 center fires Don


Quite a few adults too.


There is more to missing a shot than just flinching

2 inches at 150 yards isn't gonna win any competitions but it's fine for deer hunting. Hell even with a 1/2" rifle most hunters couldn't group inside 2" at 150 yards anyway.

What puzzles me is why people wanna hunt with an AR platform?

Sure, you have a slew of low to mildly powerful cartridges to choose from but what advantage do they have over a bolt gun?

That looks a lot bigger than a .223 to me......

I have killed several deer with a .223. It was years ago but it did the job with a 55grSP.

This topic plays out over and over. To each their own. I shoot a 223, excellent varmint round. But id never deer hunt with it. Too many better calibers out there made for that purpose. My wife, 8yr and 12yr old girls shoot a 243. We tried a 7mm08 for the 12yr old with reduced recoil ammo but was still a little too much kick for her liking. Never get why a 223 is the go to deer gun for so many. But then again why do I care??