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Re: Has oil prices effected your hunting?? [Re: Fourtyonesix] #6494502 10/14/16 01:35 AM
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Certainly it has...there's more leases available and at a little better prices. Then there's the cost of fuel as stated above.

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I hate to be the bearer of bad news but energy independence doesn't mean energy will be free

Re: Has oil prices effected your hunting?? [Re: Fourtyonesix] #6494679 10/14/16 04:03 AM
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Definitely has impacted my hunting.

I was a victim of downsizing. I landed a job with a vendor within a week, but about a 20% drop in overall compensation.

Until the industry picks up some more, the choices are funding retirement, or making the big hunting trips.


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Re: Has oil prices effected your hunting?? [Re: Fourtyonesix] #6494725 10/14/16 05:31 AM
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I like a sub $2 a gallon of gas. It allows me to drive more and make it on more hunts. I know the outfitters and guides will probably suffer as there will be less wine'n and dine'n of clients and customers. I haven't been on a deer lease in 8!years due to the cost, so I'm stuck to public land draw hunts and chasing ducks/dove and the occasional goose


Re: Has oil prices effected your hunting?? [Re: Fourtyonesix] #6494817 10/14/16 11:57 AM
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Not me personally but know some deep pocket LOs down south one of which has had to sell his Lear jet and another that's had to sell his custom executive helo and they have cut back ranch operation expenses.
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Re: Has oil prices effected your hunting?? [Re: nak] #6494832 10/14/16 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: nak
Definitely has impacted my hunting.

I was a victim of downsizing. I landed a job with a vendor within a week, but about a 20% drop in overall compensation.

Until the industry picks up some more, the choices are funding retirement, or making the big hunting trips.



So your going one some cool hunting trips? elmer

Re: Has oil prices effected your hunting?? [Re: Fourtyonesix] #6494895 10/14/16 01:17 PM
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Oil prices have affected me by only making my drive cheaper but my company pays for my gas. So, I guess I have no link to the oil prices after all.

Re: Has oil prices effected your hunting?? [Re: txbobcat] #6494906 10/14/16 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted By: txbobcat
Between what looks to be an oversupply of deer (some maybe caused by low oil prices and spending) it sure seems there are lots of breeder deer available to hunt and at lower prices.


That may be more of a function of the CWD scare and some breeders not attaining movement qualified status before the cut off. Lots of breeders with deer they can't move so hunts on their property is the only way to generate revenue. With the growing disdain for pen raised deer among hunters, I'm also hearing some historically low prices being offered for those "hunts".

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I guess you could say it affects almost all of my hunting. I've cut out all my trips this year. No Kansas, no Palo Duro, no Alabama quail, no King Ranch nilgai or deer or the King Ranch cast and blast. Guess I won't be going on any high fence hunts in S Tx either. I'm down about 100k per year in salary and all the benefits. I'm just lucky I had enough put back to make it this long. I can shoot a deer or two here at the house. Maybe I'll live till the next boom.


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Re: Has oil prices effected your hunting?? [Re: Fourtyonesix] #6494975 10/14/16 02:07 PM
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Many years ago, an economist was interviewed on one of the TV networks about the costs of holiday travel. I think this might apply here. Gas prices were "high" back then (about what they are now)and the guy did a little analysis of why folks should not curtail their trip to grandma's for Thanksgiving and Christmas just because fuel prices were up. His argument was that few people are in a position where the meager difference in cost should actually impact their trips and if they are financially in that position, they should not travel NOT because of the price of fuel, but because of risk (and expensive) that would be incurred due to a roadside breakdown.

As he noted, prices had jumped 50 cents to $2.50 a gallon. Most people travel 400 miles or less round trip and drive cars that get roughly 20 mph. So the trip takes a total of 20 gallons and the increased cost to make the trip is only $10 despite a 25% increase in fuel prices. If that $10 is a factor that is keeping you from making it out to the lease to hunt, I would be willing to but you could alter your lifestyle some to make the hunting trip possible. Maybe you don't get fast food each way. Maybe you can hunt without (dare I say it) that case of beer you take each time. Maybe you take a guest and split the fuel, more than saving the $10 additional expense. There are viable workarounds to offset increased fuel expenses, though right now, prices are pretty good.

Of course, like the economist said, if you can't afford that cost to travel, then it is likely you cannot afford to travel in the first place, due to what the cost of a roadside breakdown is going to run you. If you can't afford the $10 in fuel, then you sure as heck can't afford a tow truck, repair cost, potential missed day(s) from work, etc.

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Re: Has oil prices effected your hunting?? [Re: Fourtyonesix] #6495033 10/14/16 02:39 PM
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Very logical. If a dollar a gallon is the difference between hunting or not, maybe you shouldn't be hunting in the first place. You're already stretched too thin.

Re: Has oil prices effected your hunting?? [Re: Fourtyonesix] #6495069 10/14/16 02:59 PM
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Oil prices being down has only allowed me to hunt more often and locations outside my normal travel area. I can do a 6 hr trip twice a year on a friend's big ranch and 2 hr trips to my small place every free weekend I have and am able to pay for improvements I'm making on it. Hate that some people are suffering but I think most of us do at some point Lord knows I've had my share.

P.S. Now the wife and kids are involved with hunting and there is another expense that low oil prices help with.

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Re: Has oil prices effected your hunting?? [Re: Fourtyonesix] #6495110 10/14/16 03:26 PM
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When there was that Texas oil boom, people drove the price of exotics up (live sale) so my $200 axis doe hunts are long gone. Dunno if that counts but that's about it, more expensive paid hunts.

Re: Has oil prices effected your hunting?? [Re: Fourtyonesix] #6495116 10/14/16 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: Fourtyonesix
I live in Alaska and we feel the effects of low oil in a big way. Thousands of jobs lost, state don't have money to meet the budget, etc. I've spoken with clients of mine from New Zealand who also have seen massive cuts from the oil prices.
How has the low oil prices effected your hunt planning and spending?

Where I work and try to forget about oil prices....



Where do you work? That's an awesome office!

I think it definitely curtails the customer related aspects of wining and dining. Doesn't Alaska have some pretty sweet oil related annual subsidies it dishes out to it's residents?

Re: Has oil prices effected your hunting?? [Re: Fourtyonesix] #6495179 10/14/16 04:13 PM
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I'm a hunting guide. I work in the talkeetna mountains and Kodiak island!we get a PFD check every year. Sometimes it's only a couple hundred bucks, it has just been capped at a thousand.

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It hasn't affected my hunting, but I only hunt at my owned land. It has not really affected our lives too much, we live on way less than we make, to be prepared for these times. Earning 60% less pay the last two years makes it painful to not see the savings growing like it used to. It has tightened up our budget, and if we want something new like a gun or something, I just go do a welding job, build fence, or do some mechanic work for some locals. I'm just damn happy to still be employed with benefits. I'm pretty relaxed at this point, and we have things tuned up at work pretty good, so I'm ready for the next surge of work, bring on the high dollar oil!

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In my country the price of 95 octane gasoline is $ 5.1 per gallon, here is the most used 4x4 diesel cars, gasoline is more expensive and consume more. You are very lucky in prices, and I drool to see some of their cars, unthinkable here to support them.

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In my country the price of 95 octane gasoline is $ 5.1 per gallon, here is the most used 4x4 diesel cars, gasoline is more expensive and consume more. You are very lucky in prices, and I drool to see some of their cars, unthinkable here to support them.


Thanks to our environmentally savvy friends here. Unfortunately we do not have the option of the nice european high mpg diesel engine 4x4s or cheap diesel any longer. Our gas prices are much friendlier however.


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Much of rural Alaska is over $7 a gallon for gas up here.

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I work in the petrochemical industry and it has effected my hunting. Lower feed-stock prices has our business going gangbusters and I have a hard time scheduling vacation.


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Originally Posted By: Palehorse
I work in the petrochemical industry and it has effected my hunting. Lower feed-stock prices has our business going gangbusters and I have a hard time scheduling vacation.


Petroleum industry hurt, slump in cattle prices hurt, LDP's on wheat and soon to be on corn really hurt worse.

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I'm sitting in a booth at the Permian Basin oil show out here in Odessa and it's packed with people and vendors. You would not know that oil is down by the looks of things here.

Re: Has oil prices effected your hunting?? [Re: Fourtyonesix] #6503774 10/20/16 01:46 PM
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Knowing some guys in the industry, it has affected larger corporate type leases and recreational or hunting land purchases. It hasn't bothered my yet. Hillary might change all that though.


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