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Is the .308 the perfect North American big game cartridge? #6004201 11/01/15 05:00 AM
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Re: Is the .308 the perfect North American big game cartridge? [Re: no-guts-no-glory] #6004272 11/01/15 12:34 PM
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I hunt with both a 30/06 and a .308 Winchester. I've never been able to tell much of a difference between the ballistic performance of the two. Nor have the animals I've harvested! Every hunter has his/her "perfect" caliber; that's one of the reasons why there are so many different calibers available to us. Our objective should be to get a rifle chambered in ALL the calibers and learn to shoot each one of them very well.

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This should get good pretty quick. I'm a big fan of the .308, shoot one now, and have shot them for years. However, I think using the word "perfect" is very subjective and generally serves as a great argument starter.

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Re: Is the .308 the perfect North American big game cartridge? [Re: mikei] #6004360 11/01/15 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted By: mikei
I hunt with both a 30/06 and a .308 Winchester. I've never been able to tell much of a difference between the ballistic performance of the two. Nor have the animals I've harvested! Every hunter has his/her "perfect" caliber; that's one of the reasons why there are so many different calibers available to us. Our objective should be to get a rifle chambered in ALL the calibers and learn to shoot each one of them very well.


The last sentence of that statement is some very good advice IMO.


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Re: Is the .308 the perfect North American big game cartridge? [Re: no-guts-no-glory] #6004365 11/01/15 01:43 PM
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Re: Is the .308 the perfect North American big game cartridge? [Re: no-guts-no-glory] #6004369 11/01/15 01:44 PM
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The 308 is a very efficient cartridge. I don't own one, but should get one. Ready the post in deer hunting, on what gun are you going to be shooting this year, the 308 was near the top.

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There is no such thing as the perfect cartridge. It would be like saying this is the perfect wrench. Well if you're talking about a 3/4" and the job calls for a 1/2", then the 3/4" isn't perfect.

The .308 is a good one, and will do lots of jobs. So will a very long list of other cartridges.


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Originally Posted By: FiremanJG
There is no such thing as the perfect cartridge. It would be like saying this is the perfect wrench. Well if you're talking about a 3/4" and the job calls for a 1/2", then the 3/4" isn't perfect.

The .308 is a good one, and will do lots of jobs. So will a very long list of other cartridges.

But a .308 is like a good pair of channel locks; it'll do what a bunch of wrenches can do in a nice compact package.

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Originally Posted By: no-guts-no-glory


Yes, I believe it is... one reason that no one has mentioned, is that it is readily available, relatively inexpensive, and easy to shoot. All those lead to more practice in the average hunter, and increased proficiency.

I think 308's are shot more than all others in this category, leading to more hits, and happier hunters.

Remember here on the THF we have way more than our share of snipers, olympic marksmen and Navy SEALs who can shoot every caliber at every distance. But think about a rookie, average, shooter/hunter, and the 308 climbs even higher.

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One cartridge for all NA big game? .300 WM

One for all NA medium sized game? .308 is as good as any.


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I have used a .308 and other calibers for many years. It may not be perfect, but is as close to it as anything out there.

Re: Is the .308 the perfect North American big game cartridge? [Re: no-guts-no-glory] #6004599 11/01/15 04:22 PM
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I'm convinced that hunting magazines are the reason these discussions happen, and whey there are so many different calibers out there that do the exact same thing. If I was a conspiracy theory type of guy, I would guess that the ammo and gun manufacturers encourage the magazines to write articles about best calibers and why one is better then the other, regardless of what they wrote last year, or even last month. They might even pull a caliber out of a hat and then write why that one is the best just so people will buy more guns in that caliber that month. If they write an article about the good ole days and how that was the best caliber, they will sell more guns in that caliber.

I'm convinced that the difference between calibers is so small that everything in the world could be taken with just two rifles. And if there where only two calibers available, nobody would even know the difference. I enjoy having options and choices, but over the years, I've found that caliber arguments and discussions revolve around what we already have and what we've read about by those who are paid to sell guns and bullets.

The real question is what else shoots just the same as the .308? The list would include at least a dozen calibers, maybe twice that if you get into wildcats!!!

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I've become way more interested in the actual rifle that's wrapped around a given cartridge chambering, than the cartridge itself. There are a lot of "perfect" cartridges anymore with the amazing selections of available bullets covering about every possible base. The .308 is certainly among them.


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I look at hunting rifles a lot like some folks look at a bag of golf clubs...a different club for evey application. I've owned a few 308's in the past back when I was doing a lot of trading, and am planning on probably owning one in a Light Carbine length some time in the near future to use for a specific job....in place of a 30-30 at low MV's and low Recoil levels, mebbe even using 30-30 bullets, or a 180gr RN in the deep woods.

I could also "make do" with a 308 as a One Gun Hunter for everything ...but PTL I don't HAVE TO JUST OWN ONE GUN.
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Re: Is the .308 the perfect North American big game cartridge? [Re: no-guts-no-glory] #6004664 11/01/15 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted By: no-guts-no-glory


It's the perfect caliber if you like mediocre velocity, energy and trajectory. Kind of like driving a mini van. bolt


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Yes 308 is the perfect hunting cartridge

So is the 270 and 30-06.


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Originally Posted By: TEXASLEFTY
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I hunt with both a 30/06 and a .308 Winchester. I've never been able to tell much of a difference between the ballistic performance of the two. Nor have the animals I've harvested! Every hunter has his/her "perfect" caliber; that's one of the reasons why there are so many different calibers available to us. Our objective should be to get a rifle chambered in ALL the calibers and learn to shoot each one of them very well.


The last sentence of that statement is some very good advice IMO.


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There is no such thing as the perfect cartridge. It would be like saying this is the perfect wrench. Well if you're talking about a 3/4" and the job calls for a 1/2", then the 3/4" isn't perfect.

The .308 is a good one, and will do lots of jobs. So will a very long list of other cartridges.

But a .308 is like a good pair of channel locks; it'll do what a bunch of wrenches can do in a nice compact package.


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Are animals "more dead" with the .308 than a .270 or .300WM?


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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
One cartridge for all NA big game? .300 WM

One for all NA medium sized game? .308 is as good as any.


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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Are animals "more dead" with the .308 than a .270 or .300WM?



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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Are animals "more dead" with the .308 than a .270 or .300WM?


Absolutely. I hear tell of deer "killed" with a .270 and then later jumping out of the freezer, never to be seen again. peep


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