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What size is considered a deer pen? #5989479 10/22/15 09:54 PM
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Surrounded by high fence. Will be interesting to see the results. Please try to avoid a brawl.

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What size is considered a deer pen in acres?
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Re: What size is considered a deer pen? [Re: TurkeyHunter] #5989711 10/23/15 12:22 AM
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Once the fence goes up those deer become livestock! peep

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Originally Posted By: Jimbo
Once the fence goes up those deer become livestock! peep

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Originally Posted By: TurkeyHunter
Please try to avoid a brawl.


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Re: What size is considered a deer pen? [Re: TurkeyHunter] #5989804 10/23/15 01:19 AM
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A pen is a pen by definition. Good luck avoiding that brawl.


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Re: What size is considered a deer pen? [Re: TurkeyHunter] #5989833 10/23/15 01:37 AM
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What! No option for <10 acres bolt


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scratch As pappy once said: When ya talk bout penmanship, mine run outa ink ... flag



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Originally Posted By: Simple Searcher
What! No option for <10 acres bolt
Exactly. I've seen some pretty wild ones up into 10 acres, too.

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Good point though, a pen is a pen, no matter how big or small. It's all about mindset and verbiage wink

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Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: Simple Searcher
What! No option for <10 acres bolt
Exactly. I've seen some pretty wild ones up into 10 acres, too.

popcorn

Good point though, a pen is a pen, no matter how big or small. It's all about mindset and verbiage wink


I've seen crazy cattle inside a 3' wide by 20' long loading chute, too...


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Re: What size is considered a deer pen? [Re: chital_shikari] #5989905 10/23/15 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted By: chital_shikari
Originally Posted By: Simple Searcher
What! No option for <10 acres bolt
Exactly. I've seen some pretty wild ones up into 10 acres, too.


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Good point though, a pen is a pen, no matter how big or small. It's all about mindset and verbiage wink


scratch Everyone knows 50,000+ acres will produce more verbiage than 25 acres... Even in a bad drought... flag



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I'm not a hf guy, but have no problem with them or people that choose to hunt in them. That being said I'd hardly call a 50k acre hf place a pen.

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Are you talking about soft release pen or the general term for HF haters? I say a lot has to do with terrain and how thick vegetation is. 500ac in jim hogg county doesnt hunt the same way it does in gaines or brewster county.


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Really??? All you guys that voted for any pen, how many deer have you shot in a FEEDER PEN?

With your logic, it's the SAME. confused2


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I'm not personally against HF hunting, just answering the question. The difference is the deer can get out of the feeder pen, it's not trapped there.


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Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
Really??? All you guys that voted for any pen, how many deer have you shot in a FEEDER PEN?

With your logic, it's the SAME. confused2


No, it's not. He defined it as HF and simply asked what folks thought. Nothing confusing about it.


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I have no problem with hi fence hunting. I don't care for deer breeding, breeder pens, and stocking with outside genetics. In my opinion if your doing more than feeding letting them age and selective culling then its livestock. That's my view doesn't have to be anyone else's.


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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
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Really??? All you guys that voted for any pen, how many deer have you shot in a FEEDER PEN?

With your logic, it's the SAME. confused2


No, it's not. He defined it as HF and simply asked what folks thought. Nothing confusing about it.


Yes it is. Because I believe it to be.

Just using the same logic.


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My thought is that a pen is where you keep them in a small area, and a pasture is where you let them out to roam freely, even if it's high fenced. It needs to be a small enough area to handle, inspect or catch them easily without causing too much stress to them. Or to breed them with does you are keeping a record of.

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Originally Posted By: Nogalus Prairie
Originally Posted By: Pitchfork Predator
Really??? All you guys that voted for any pen, how many deer have you shot in a FEEDER PEN?

With your logic, it's the SAME. confused2


No, it's not. He defined it as HF and simply asked what folks thought. Nothing confusing about it.



That's it exactly. Was wanting to get an idea of how the perception on HF size might measure out in a survey. The HF debate has been discussed on here plenty. Of course it's not scientific but it will be interesting to see how the numbers play out.

So please just be calm everyone and watch how the poll turns out.


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In the United States, the term "pen" usually describes small enclosures for holding sheep, goats, and pigs. A pen for cattle is also sometimes called a corral. A large fenced grazing area of many acres is called a "pasture," or, in some cases, "rangeland".

My conclusion is if a paddle boat is not defined as a bass boat which is not defined as a yacht which is not defined as a cruise ship which is not defined as a warship. Then one could conclude a pen is not a pasture therefore only <25 acres would apply.


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Some on here would conclude that once Obama (tongue in cheek) puts up a wall to secure our south and north borders, the country would be considered a deer pen.

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Originally Posted By: chital_shikari


It's all about mindset



That's what I'm attempting to asses with this poll. Trying to measure perception regarding a sensitive topic. The poll is not scientific and can subjected to all sorts of criticism. Nonetheless, the results may be interesting.


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Cute but not a real quote

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How many of you would have lost a herd behind a high fence in recent floods? What about recent wildfires? Thank goodness my neighbors and I aren't high fenced. I bet a news crew would never get permission to go on a high fenced ranch and give a report of loss either. A pen is a pen.


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