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Illegals on deer lease #5986341 10/21/15 12:36 AM
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Any of yall delt with immigrants coming across your lease. We haven't had an up close encounter yet but we've been on the lease since March and got them on game cams. This morning we topped a hill coming out of camp to the deer stand and stopped cause we saw 2 campfires about a half a mile away that where put out abruptly.

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Don't worry Obama has told us that our borders are secure.





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Cross my buddies place constantly. Mainly at night. Occasionally break in and take food.
Sleep in stands. There is a BP checkpoint on 77 and another in Falfurrias. They go in between the two checkpoints but avoid Kingranch property taking them across my buddies lease. They move north adjacent to 281 and ease back to the highway around Premont. BP activity is non stop. Trucks, atvs, choppers, planes.

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They dropped by one time and broke in to our camper. Not only did they steal everything they could carry, they did $2800 worth of damage to the camper. When we hunted S. Texas we didn't go out the door without a weapon. It's a shame you have to do that but that's the reality of it. .


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I left 2 jugs of water and a couple cans of beans on the porch when we left today but we don't leave anything but food in the camp so, I'm just concerned with an encounter in the deer stand.

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If the runners are having them use your property as a cut thru or trail, you should see where they stack up 3 rocks one on top another. We used to see this all the time down at a place in rock springs. Used to make me happy to walk the pasture and stack them in big circles or kick them all over. Only had one run in with 20+ Of them in a group and the authorities were there in no time. Had to leave the cabin unlocked with signs on all windows and doors in English and Spanish stating that so they didn't break in. Left nothing there that didn't expect to disappear.

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Don't worry Obama has told us that our borders are secure.

Whew! I was worried there for a minute.


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If the runners are having them use your property as a cut thru or trail, you should see where they stack up 3 rocks one on top another. We used to see this all the time down at a place in rock springs. Used to make me happy to walk the pasture and stack them in big circles or kick them all over. Only had one run in with 20+ Of them in a group and the authorities were there in no time. Had to leave the cabin unlocked with signs on all windows and doors in English and Spanish stating that so they didn't break in. Left nothing there that didn't expect to disappear.

Good luck


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Re: Illegals on deer lease [Re: duck_slayer89] #5986513 10/21/15 01:48 AM
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when i used to get to hunt in one of
those places where border jumpers move
through, i was more worried about them
starting a fire, or trashing the camper,
or lice in the beds, or the large amount
of trash and poop they scatter than any bodily
harm they may cause.
these days, being strapped is more or
less mandatory anyway.
get a backhoe.

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Have a buddy with some land in Terrell County who sees them all the time. Luckily they don't want to meet you any more than you want to meet them. It's what they're doing when you're not there that's the problem. He never leaves anything in camp and we always leave his airstream unlocked. It does make for an interesting walk in the dark though when you're having to look out for other people. We don't go out there unless we have plenty of ammo.


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Originally Posted By: CRAnderson52
Have a buddy with some land in Terrell County who sees them all the time. Luckily they don't want to meet you any more than you want to meet them. It's what they're doing when you're not there that's the problem. He never leaves anything in camp and we always leave his airstream unlocked. It does make for an interesting walk in the dark though when you're having to look out for other people. We don't go out there unless we have plenty of ammo.



I had land there and it seemed like the illegal traffic stopped on our place during hunting season. The border patrol told us that there was more drug smuggling going on than illegals ever coming through, the land was too rough for most.

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Ahhhh

They don't want know part of you ... Just food And water


Re: Illegals on deer lease [Re: duck_slayer89] #5986735 10/21/15 03:39 AM
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Never have been concerned with my safety. I know the hell they go thru to get here. They have one thing on their mind and that is to reach a major city hassle free.

Pay Zetas in order to cross and then pay the mule to take them. Used to run them about 1400-1600. Now $8000.

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I've had a bunch of encounters over the years, never anything bad. I have had them clean out camp houses to included stealing the groceries as we brought them in through the front door and sat them on the kitchen table. When we turned and went back out the front door to get another load, they came in the back door and cleaned the table of what we just put down!

I've also spent a lot of hours talking to those that I've crossed paths with and if you speak spanish you hear some really interesting tales. One small group of older gentlemen, I mean that, told me of burying a friend two days earlier who had died from a rattlesnake bite. I was hunting a large lease on the Nueces River SE of Cotulla late in the season by myself and ran across a fellow that was sitting on one of the ranch roads in shock. He was suffering from hypothermia as he had crossed the Nueces the evening before and it was below freezing. He was from Guatemala, probably did not know much about the cold. I took him back to my camp and got him on his feet and fed. He told me that the wildlife since he crossed into Texas scared the hell out of him. He couldn't remember when it occurred but it was north of the Rio Grande, he woke up to a very large hog pulling him through the brush. He showed me his leg so I treated and dressed it as well.

I was out on a tripod about an hour before hunting light, the tripod was well hidden within the base of some trees. It was as still as a mouse so I could hear something different coming towards me. I wasn't real sure what kind of critter it was but I was dead quiet. Ended up being a group of 20 to 25 illegals moving in a tight pack within 10 yards of my tripod. That kind of freaked me because of how carefully and quiet they moved without light, just something from another time and place in my past. I didn't care for it at all but they kept moving. I had hunted that tripod a lot and never had that happen prior but I went ahead and moved it.

Desert mule deer hunting, I found a grave of stacked rock. I was simply respectful and moved on.

I use to run into them all the time but my ranch is now up on the northern edge of South Texas. As an avid outdoorsman I do respect the skills I have seen. I've done some pretty long hikes such as south to north across the Laguna Atascosa NWR but I cannot picture walking across South Texas with only what I could carry. Most hunters don't want to walk from the truck 100 yards up to the blind especially in the dark without a light.


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Speaking of these things... I good friend of mine died yesterday, 36 years ago, in the border war.

http://www.cbp.gov/about/in-memoriam/weldon-smith


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We own some land in Val Verde County and got broken into last year. From what the Border Patrol agent told us they hit us and 4 or 5 cabins around us. It was during the summer when all of the kids were coming across. We now leave a box of food and water on the porch. It has only been disturbed once, we found it about 50 feet from the cabin and almost empty but we weren't sure if that was people or the wend.

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I have not seen them in person, but I have lots of pictures of them crossing my ranch on trail cams like the one below. 4 months ago they drove a 1500 chevy straight through 3 ranches, high fence and all. They were had to of been going 50mph straight thru our ranch and finally crashed into a large oak tree, where they left the truck as the truck exhaust caught the grass on fire. We had the sheriff, Border patrol and fire all on scene.

Ranch Dog, I am sorry for your loss, such a shame.


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by the way, all the damage they ever do is steal my corn and knock off my feeder motors. I was told by a previous illegal, that they take the corn and put it in water bottles, after an hour the corn turns in to hominy or a mash, that is a good source of protein.

you are right tho, since the age of 6 I have been walking to and from my stands alone in the dark. This is the first year I went out and bout a .40 pistol to carry, it gives me less chills during the walk. I have also decieded to put locks on my stands, not because I don't want them in there, I just don't want to be surprised.


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Originally Posted By: maximum
when i used to get to hunt in one of
those places where border jumpers move
through, i was more worried about them
starting a fire, or trashing the camper,
or lice in the beds, or the large amount
of trash and poop they scatter than any bodily
harm they may cause.
these days, being strapped is more or
less mandatory anyway.
get a backhoe.


Curious as to what you are saying to use the backhoe for?


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MoBettaHuntR, I believe he is referring to....no evidence.


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Oh yea, just a month or so ago I had a chevy truck drive into my place, drop off a couple dudes, and then the next morning another truck came and got them. Didnt know what was going as I saw the first truck drive in, turn around and leave. Thought it was just someone lost. The next morning another truck pulled up to the gate, two dudes ran out of the woods and jumped in and they all took off. Too far away to see faces or get lic plates, etc. Really bothered me...

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Speaking of these things... I good friend of mine died yesterday, 36 years ago, in the border war.

http://www.cbp.gov/about/in-memoriam/weldon-smith


I worked in the Rio Grande City BP office starting in June of '80. (Agent Roxy D. Kieffe) was my supervisor and lived across the street from me at the gov't village at Falcon Dam. Watched Roxy kick a rattlesnake (3 footer) to death one night. We couldn't shoot it cuz we were waiting on some illegals to come by that we'd seen earlier.

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Never have been concerned with my safety. I know the hell they go thru to get here. They have one thing on their mind and that is to reach a major city hassle free.

Pay Zetas in order to cross and then pay the mule to take them. Used to run them about 1400-1600. Now $8000.


I was told last week it running $7,000 now to get here, it was around 2k for coyote and 1k to zeta.

I wonder why such a large price increase

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Originally Posted By: MoBettaHuntR
Originally Posted By: maximum
when i used to get to hunt in one of
those places where border jumpers move
through, i was more worried about them
starting a fire, or trashing the camper,
or lice in the beds, or the large amount
of trash and poop they scatter than any bodily
harm they may cause.
these days, being strapped is more or
less mandatory anyway.
get a backhoe.


Curious as to what you are saying to use the backhoe for?



Surely it's to bury all of that poop that he's referring to..:

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Blindcowboy you are probably getting the same traffic as me if your still around juno. We're real close to juno on the brewer ranch

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