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Ground Shrinkage #5969526 10/09/15 06:49 PM
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Out of the last 5 to 10 "shooter" bucks that you have harvested what percentage have you walked up on and thought Dang he's nice just not as big as I thought. For myself has happened at least the last 4 times. I have even had years where I didn't pull the trigger cause I wanted to be a good manager of my lease. Just wondered how many out there have experienced ground shrinkage with the bucks they have taken.

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If you have not experienced ground shrinkage, sometimes significant shrinkage in your hunting life, then all you have ever shot is does.
I remember one monster buck that I truly thought would make the B&C book when I pulled the trigger. On the ground it was a small pencil 6 point. Of course I was 12 at the time. That thank God, has been my most shrinkage in all the bucks I have killed since.

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Other than spikes, I've shot 6 bucks since 1998, 2 culls and 4 'shooters'. I haven't been disappointed in any of the shooters or felt their was any ground shrinkage. Like you, there have been many times I passed on deer that I knew would only get better. I'm not saying this is your case, but most of the people I know who experience ground shrinkage got excited when they saw a buck and made it into a shooter when it really wasn't (by lease standards, or whatever measure a deer is a 'shooter').


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None of the last 10 or so. But I have definitely killed bucks during my life that had significant ground shrinkage. Understanding body types, how to age and rough score deer on the hoof is the key to avoiding ground shrinkage. When in doubt, always favor the ranch.

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None of the last 10 I shot for trophies and they are all on my wall in the house. I did have several of those that grew a bunch on the ground.


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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
None of the last 10 I shot for trophies and they are all on my wall in the house. I did have several of those that grew a bunch on the ground.

Pics of the mounts?


If you want some friendly advice, get a haircut and take a bath. You wouldn't get hassled so much.


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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
... I did have several of those that grew a bunch on the ground.


That's a great problem!


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Originally Posted By: Captain Luke
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None of the last 10 I shot for trophies and they are all on my wall in the house. I did have several of those that grew a bunch on the ground.

Pics of the mounts?


he has a decent lil trophy room..... popcorn


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If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
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Originally Posted By: Captain Luke
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None of the last 10 I shot for trophies and they are all on my wall in the house. I did have several of those that grew a bunch on the ground.

Pics of the mounts?

Here we go...yes stx we need some pics of the ones that grew, fouz you throw in some you were close on. We'll make this one heck of a post quick..

up popcorn

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I dunno know how to post pictures and am about to leave the office. But I do have some pretty badazz whitetail mounts. Be happy to share them another time. I have several larger, but one of my favorites is a life-sized 221 6/8 I killed hunting with stx. And he's only 13 7/8 inside! Another is a slick 12 point half-size jumping out of the wall through some cactus. He was 210 2/8 and he's 24 4/8 inside.

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First buck I shot in Austin County.

Proportionately, he had a huge neck, broad shoulders, looked very muscular...I thought he was a mammoth.

Body was the size of a large labrador when I went to collect him.

It's weird because there are some massive bodied deer out there, but not this guy.

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Originally Posted By: fouzman
I dunno know how to post pictures and am about to leave the office. But I do have some pretty badazz whitetail mounts. Be happy to share them another time. I have several larger, but one of my favorites is a life-sized 221 6/8 I killed hunting with stx.


there is no "share another time," there is only share now.


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If I send my neighbors a text and ask them to give me feedback on my lawn and plant rye into a giant dong pattern, I'm probably going to get some less than positive feedback. Same goes here.
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Originally Posted By: fouzman
I have several larger, but one of my favorites is a life-sized 221 6/8 I killed hunting with stx.


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I've had a couple shrink on me, but last year they seemed to grow as I walked up.

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"I have several larger than the 221 6/8," I'm proud to know you, but I don't think I'm liking you right now.


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First one is the 221 6/8 that was 13 7/8" inside.

Second was around 240

Third one was over 200

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I have several larger, but one of my favorites is a life-sized 221 6/8 I killed hunting with stx.


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I would've been off 40+ inches on that middle one for sure based on that view. What were your guesses on the 3 scores before they were on the ground?

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All my guesses where less than the actual scores by at least 10" or more. I always err on the low side.
These pics show size a bit better on that 2nd buck.



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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
First one is the 221 6/8 that was 13 7/8" inside.

Second was around 240

Third one was over 200

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I have several larger, but one of my favorites is a life-sized 221 6/8 I killed hunting with stx.


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Those are awesome!


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All my guesses where less than the actual scores by at least 10" or more. I always err on the low side.
These pics show size a bit better on that 2nd buck.


Sure does, shows his mass a lot better and all those extras.

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None of the last 10 I shot for trophies and they are all on my wall in the house. I did have several of those that grew a bunch on the ground.

Pics of the mounts?

These are few that grew when I got to them...





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Here is one that I guided that grew a bunch when I saw him on the ground....guessed him the low 220's and he was low 240's and had 2 broken points.


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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
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None of the last 10 I shot for trophies and they are all on my wall in the house. I did have several of those that grew a bunch on the ground.

Pics of the mounts?

These are few that grew when I got to them...


I love that mount! Those other bucks aren't too shabby either up

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Wow, very impressive deer!!





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I don't remember an instance of ground shrinkage until I shot my first central Texas 8 point. I grew up in NE Louisiana, and the deer were about 140 pounds for doe and 200 to 250 for bucks, with a big buck weighing near 300 (rare, but every now and then). So...got invited to hunt north of Austin. The place was crawling with deer. As the sun came up the does looked just like does back in Louisiana. Then, here came a perfectly proportioned 8 point. Man, he sure was pretty, with a nice wide rack. I put the old 270 on him and climbed down to walk over and look at him. He got smaller and smaller. I swear he was not much bigger than a large German Shepherd. I grabbed the rack and walked him back to the blind pretty easy. He actually had a total body weight of 125 pounds.


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