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Is 70 lbs draw necessary??? #5951361 09/29/15 12:06 AM
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I went to visit a buddy of mine this weekend and he was showing me his new bow setup. Nice rig, couldn't tell you the brand. But he was saying that anything less than 70 is pointless for a grown man. I don't own a bow but would like to when $$ allow it. He's a big guy, wide not tall, so that may be right for him. Any thoughts on the 70 lbs theory to kill whitetail in Texas.
Sorry, meant 70...thanks tigger

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Ummm....Unless I've lost something, he better have said 70 instead of 170. 70 is the max of most bows.....

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I bet far more deer are killed with bows set at less than 70lbs than those at 70lbs or greater. Before I had some shoulder issues, I was pulling 64lbs. Every deer I shot was a complete pass thru and the farthest trail was 80 yards. Most died in sight. After the shoulder issue I resumed hunting with 47 lbs and all four deer died in sight but the bucks were not complete pass thru. Once you get hooked on hunting with a bow there is no going back.


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The main difference in 55 pounds and 70 pounds is how far in the dirt your arrow sticks when it passes through the deer. I draw about 58 and shot through two big Ohio whitetail last year and one Texas whitetail. I shot a 280 pound hog quartering and buried it to the fetching. I don't think 70 pounds would have passed through the hog honestly but once it hits the far shoulder the damage is done.

I used to draw 70 when I thought I needed to but I've learned there's no need and when it's 20 degrees and you've sat in a tree for three hours it's a hell of a lot easier to draw 58 than it is 70.

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Originally Posted By: Nick1
I went to visit a buddy of mine this weekend and he was showing me his new bow setup. Nice rig, couldn't tell you the brand. But he was saying that anything less than 70 is pointless for a grown man. I don't own a bow but would like to when $$ allow it. He's a big guy, wide not tall, so that may be right for him. Any thoughts on the 70 lbs theory to kill whitetail in Texas.
Sorry, meant 70...thanks tigger


20 years ago 70 lb bows shot as fast as today's 50lb bows. He is newer to bow hunting then he leds on.


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A lot of animals have fallen to a 45-pound recurve. At 70, he is getting some speed, and yaddda yadda blah.

Technology has advanced so much, why hurt yourself with 70 when 50 can get it done.

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I shoot a 70 lb bow. But tell your bud he is shooting bigger to make up for something small he apparently has....................

Re: Is 70 lbs draw necessary??? [Re: BDB] #5951545 09/29/15 01:40 AM
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The 60 pound bow I am shooting this year shoots 35 fps faster than the 70 pound bow I was shooting last year. So no its not necessary at all. Not to mention I can draw 60 pounds so much smoother.

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In theory, heavier pull = faster arrows. Faster arrows = flatter shots. Gives you some lee way in distances. My last bow was set at about 68 but had a 60% (?) let off. Current bow is "only" at 55 lbs but has ONLY a 30% let off and it is a bugger to hold for me.

I have no idea what all this means. wink If he's comfortable, so be it.

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Ted Nugents bow is set at 45 pound and look how much he has killed


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No need for 70lbs for whitetails, now if I were going after Moose I might up it to 70 but bet could get it done with 55. On another forum there is a picture of a very good bull elk taken this year with a 47lb longbow. An outfitter friend in Montana said he likes his elk hunters to shoot 60lbs but if they can shoot better with it at 55 they should still get their elk


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Re: Is 70 lbs draw necessary??? [Re: Nick1] #5951832 09/29/15 05:37 AM
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Sure, 40lb will kill a deer, but a heavier draw will allow for faster, flatter arrows, greater penetration, and more distance. It's the same as a 30-30 vs a 300WM. Both will kill deer, ESPECIALLY at the distances deer are typically shot. If you can shoot the heavy draw weight, why wouldn't you?


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Yes 70 has an advantage in some ways, but that doesn't mean it's going to kill a deer any better than 50 both will put em down. But if you aren't pulling 70 (like me) it is not "pointless" some people just simply can't do it comfortably. It's just personal preference and physical ability. Hunt smarter NOT harder IMO

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No you don't need it. It is the same with a rifle or bow, shot placement.


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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
No you don't need it. It is the same with a rifle or bow, shot placement.

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Ive done all my bow hunting with a 63# draw. My bow is about 7-8 years old. My dad just bought a bow this year, his is set at 50 or 55 lbs and his is flater, faster, and quieter than mine.

Mine works so ill keep it.


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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
20 years ago 70 lb bows shot as fast as today's 50lb bows. He is newer to bow hunting then he leds on.



this is the key right here.

Bows now shoot as fast or faster as the bows from 5-7 years ago with less draw weight.

my buddy was shooting a 60# bowtech with a long draw length and getting over 300 fps. buddy just bought a new no-cam bow from Mathews and he is getting in the mid 290's with it set at 65#. I am a believer that bows shoot better when they are maxed out though, but you don't have to shoot a 70 or 80# bow anymore to get speed and kinetic energy.



THAT BEING SAID.......


if you have a short draw length, like me, to get speed your gonna have to pull some weight. I shoot my bow at 72#'s and its not a struggle or a burden at all, but I'm young and in shape. I went and shot the fastest bow that bowtech has out (RPM 360) and with a hunting weight arrow, could only get 298 fps with it due to my draw. So if I want a flat, open country bow capable of making 60-80 yard shots, I'm gonna have to pull heavy.

just like rifles, what makes a good treestand or popup bow may not make a good open country bow and vice versa


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It's all personal preference, if you can draw 70# comfortably then have at it. But, if you have to point your bow straight up in the air and bring it down while drawing and grunting the whole time, it's probably best to bring her on down to 60-65#. Something I thought about doing if I ever bought one of those trophy ridge react sights, was to practice all year at 70# then when deer season came along dial it back to 65#. That way when I'm in the stand with all the other things against me, at least drawing my bow back will be a piece of cake


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Bow fishing is good practice for me.

Sometimes bowfishing ive shot 50-100 times a night. My bowfishing bow is an old 65 lb draw Bear, its HEAVY. Shooting/carrying that thing all night will make a man of you.


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Bow fishing is good practice for me.

Sometimes bowfishing ive shot 50-100 times a night. My bowfishing bow is an old 65 lb draw Bear, its HEAVY. Shooting/carrying that thing all night will make a man of you.



that's nuts.

we shoot 50 lb AMS bows. a 65# bow will wear you out not to mention stick a lot of arrows deep in the muck


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That's the problem with archery; not everyone that owns a bow is an expert, although a lot of them think so. roflmao

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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
20 years ago 70 lb bows shot as fast as today's 50lb bows. He is newer to bow hunting then he leds on.



this is the key right here.

Bows now shoot as fast or faster as the bows from 5-7 years ago with less draw weight.

my buddy was shooting a 60# bowtech with a long draw length and getting over 300 fps. buddy just bought a new no-cam bow from Mathews and he is getting in the mid 290's with it set at 65#. I am a believer that bows shoot better when they are maxed out though, but you don't have to shoot a 70 or 80# bow anymore to get speed and kinetic energy.



THAT BEING SAID.......


if you have a short draw length, like me, to get speed your gonna have to pull some weight. I shoot my bow at 72#'s and its not a struggle or a burden at all, but I'm young and in shape. I went and shot the fastest bow that bowtech has out (RPM 360) and with a hunting weight arrow, could only get 298 fps with it due to my draw. So if I want a flat, open country bow capable of making 60-80 yard shots, I'm gonna have to pull heavy.

just like rifles, what makes a good treestand or popup bow may not make a good open country bow and vice versa

Not being a smart arse, what is your draw length? I shoot the 360 maxed at 62 pounds and 29" draw and am easily over 300 fps.

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Higher draw weight = sight pins closer together. That's about the extent of it for most hunters.

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Originally Posted By: bjankowski
That's the problem with archery; not everyone that owns a bow is an expert, although a lot of them think so. roflmao


One of the more accurate statements I have read lately.


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