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Questions when booking a deer hunt.... #5872244 08/10/15 08:49 PM
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What kinds of questions do yall ask a potential outfitter when trying to book a low fence whitetail hunt here in Texas? Curious as to what is important and what isnt.


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It is important to call Cody Malone. He is very active on here and offers some of the best array of services I know about.

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Sorry I didn't see the "low fence" part of the question. I would still call Cody and pick his brain and see what he has available for this season. He always seems to harvest some studs, and his cull deer are always reasonably priced. Plus he can film the hunt for you which is an added bonus IMO

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The size of the deer on the place, rough average. If they actually have the age structure in place if they're pushing a lot of mature "top end" deer. Does the place have lodging; extra?. Is there indoor plumbing inside that lodging. If having to stay at a hotel, do they get enough business to be priority on booking. How many other hunters will be booked. Size of the place. Are there a lot of hogs. Honesty goes a long ways. Are dates flexible. Are non-hunting guests allowed. Semi-guided, fully. flat fee? trophy fee? draw blood fee? Do you have permission to hunt the property. I'm sure I'm missing more, but try to get questions answered in writing so you can refer back to them.

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Ask the following...
Property size?
Sucess rate percentage?
Shot opportunity percentage?
Size of average buck harvested?
Any photos of harvest?
Recent trail camera photos (date stamps need I be correct)
Any references?
Years in buisness?
Lodging & meals included?
Any extra cost?
Types of stands?
Average shot length?
Will you be the only person/group in camp?



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1. I ask if they own the land or lease and how many acres.
2. I ask how many years they have been doing hunts.
3. I ask how many hunts will be booked and how many bucks are taken off the acreage annually(managing).
4. I ask about guides and how many years of experience they have.
5. I ask how many people will be in camp at one time and accommodations.
6. I ask about how the success rate is and the chance or opportunity is?
7. I ask about style of hunting that will be done.
8. I ask about quality and age of animals taken in the past seasons and most recent.
9. I ask about returning clients who re-book annually.
10.I ask for every reference they will give me and call them.
11.I ask if any hunting shows or celebrities will be their when I hunt, so I won't put up with that BS.
Sure their is more I ask.
Glad to see you back rtp cheers


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References, recent pictures of deer shot/trail camera pics, what range of bucks might you expect to see. Also google his name to see what the reviews are like - there are several outfitter sites where hunters can offer reviews of their hunts with various outfitters and you can do a search on there. Also how many acres, how many other hunters there while you are, accommodations?

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Originally Posted By: rifleman
The size of the deer on the place, rough average. And can you see pics of all the bucks taken the previous year to back that up. If they actually have the age structure in place if they're pushing a lot of mature "top end" deer.How do they know what the age structure is? Does the place have lodging; extra?. Is there indoor plumbing inside that lodging. If having to stay at a hotel, do they get enough business to be priority on booking. How many other hunters will be booked. Size of the place. Are there a lot of hogs. Honesty goes a long ways. Are dates flexible. Are non-hunting guests allowed. Semi-guided, fully. flat fee? trophy fee? draw blood fee? Do you have permission to hunt the property. I'm sure I'm missing more, but try to get questions answered in writing so you can refer back to them.
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Adding to a couple of points.

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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
1. I ask if they own the land or lease and how many acres. Not just the ranch size but how many of those acres are being hunted. How much of those acres are brush, woods, farmland, etc.
2. I ask how many years they have been doing hunts. Especially on the piece of property you are being sold a hunt on.
3. I ask how many hunts will be booked and how many bucks are taken off the acreage annually(managing). How did they arrive at that number?
4. I ask about guides and how many years of experience they have. On the ranch you are being sold a hunt to.
5. I ask how many people will be in camp at one time and accommodations.
6. I ask about how the success rate is and the chance or opportunity is? Again on the particular ranch you are being sold a hunt to.
7. I ask about style of hunting that will be done.
8. I ask about quality and age of animals taken in the past seasons and most recent. Ask for pics and scores from all the bucks taken last year
9. I ask about returning clients who re-book annually.
10.I ask for every reference they will give me and call them.
11.I ask if any hunting shows or celebrities will be their when I hunt, so I won't put up with that BS.
Sure their is more I ask.
Glad to see you back rtp cheers


Thanks for the welcome back. It has been a while. up I have more to add. Just want to see if others touch on some points not listed yet.

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Good info here...and good to see you back sir cheers


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Originally Posted By: rtp
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
1. I ask if they own the land or lease and how many acres. Not just the ranch size but how many of those acres are being hunted. How much of those acres are brush, woods, farmland, etc.
2. I ask how many years they have been doing hunts. Especially on the piece of property you are being sold a hunt on.
3. I ask how many hunts will be booked and how many bucks are taken off the acreage annually(managing). How did they arrive at that number?
4. I ask about guides and how many years of experience they have. On the ranch you are being sold a hunt to.
5. I ask how many people will be in camp at one time and accommodations.
6. I ask about how the success rate is and the chance or opportunity is? Again on the particular ranch you are being sold a hunt to.
7. I ask about style of hunting that will be done.
8. I ask about quality and age of animals taken in the past seasons and most recent. Ask for pics and scores from all the bucks taken last year
9. I ask about returning clients who re-book annually.
10.I ask for every reference they will give me and call them.
11.I ask if any hunting shows or celebrities will be their when I hunt, so I won't put up with that BS.
Sure their is more I ask.
Glad to see you back rtp cheers


Thanks for the welcome back. It has been a while. up I have more to add. Just want to see if others touch on some points not listed yet.

I would also ask if there is one owner or outfitter or other partner(s).
I would ask how long the outfitter(s) has been in business.
I would ask how many properties that are outfitted by the owner(s).
I would ask about how they work their pricing....what is considered a trophy or management..any fees added, etc.
I would ask what age class deer are allowed to be taken.
I would ask about the management plan in depth for each property outfitted.


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Originally Posted By: rtp
Originally Posted By: stxranchman
1. I ask if they own the land or lease and how many acres. Not just the ranch size but how many of those acres are being hunted. How much of those acres are brush, woods, farmland, etc.
2. I ask how many years they have been doing hunts. Especially on the piece of property you are being sold a hunt on.
3. I ask how many hunts will be booked and how many bucks are taken off the acreage annually(managing). How did they arrive at that number?
4. I ask about guides and how many years of experience they have. On the ranch you are being sold a hunt to.
5. I ask how many people will be in camp at one time and accommodations.
6. I ask about how the success rate is and the chance or opportunity is? Again on the particular ranch you are being sold a hunt to.
7. I ask about style of hunting that will be done.
8. I ask about quality and age of animals taken in the past seasons and most recent. Ask for pics and scores from all the bucks taken last year
9. I ask about returning clients who re-book annually.
10.I ask for every reference they will give me and call them.
11.I ask if any hunting shows or celebrities will be their when I hunt, so I won't put up with that BS.
Sure their is more I ask.
Glad to see you back rtp cheers


Thanks for the welcome back. It has been a while. up I have more to add. Just want to see if others touch on some points not listed yet.


Welcome back cheers


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Names and numbers of past hunts...


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Originally Posted By: SniperRAB
Names and numbers of past hunts...


I send this pic and ask if any of these guys look familiar...if the answer is yes, then I end the conversation ASAP peep


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Originally Posted By: SniperRAB
Names and numbers of past hunts...


I send this pic and ask if any of these guys look familiar...if the answer is yes, then I end the conversation ASAP peep




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Guys, for what it's worth. My future son-in-law and his buddy did a axis doe hunt with Guadalupe Outfitters this past weekend near Waring. They saw TONS of very nice WTs on the low fence properties they have. Lots of 8's and some good 10's. It's gonna be a very good year down there (and just down the road in Boerne, it is shaping up to be a stellar year for WT).

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Originally Posted By: John Humbert
Guys, for what it's worth. My future son-in-law and his buddy did a axis doe hunt with Guadalupe Outfitters this past weekend near Waring. They saw TONS of very nice WTs on the low fence properties they have. Lots of 8's and some good 10's. It's gonna be a very good year down there (and just down the road in Boerne, it is shaping up to be a stellar year for WT).




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This may rile some but in my opinion the amount of question has a lot to do with what the price of the hunt is.

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Originally Posted By: don k
This may rile some but in my opinion the amount of question has a lot to do with what the price of the hunt is.


True but I think a lot of people go into it without asking detailed questions. Most outfitters give vague answers unless pressed. Most hunters hear what they want to hear and proceed accordingly. This can end up with frustration on both sides.

If you are being sold a high dollar low fence hunt, and you are told the place is protein feed that can mean a wide range of things. Take it another step further and ask when the outfitters starts the protein feed and when does he cut it off. Ask how many protein feeders he has. This will give you an idea of how many acres per station. Ask how many tons are feed on that ranch on avg each year. Just one example of how a vague answer of, yes we protein feed, needing to be followed up with some additional questions.


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With dove season starting up it made me think of something else that should be asked to a possible outfitter when purchasing a deer hunt. Ask what other hunting is taking place on the ranch. It would stink to show up and bow hunt a place that has been getting blown up by dove hunters prior to your hunt. Or even quail, pig, or varmint hunters. Just another factor which could make or break a possible package hunt.


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Originally Posted By: BOBO the Clown
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I did once. It was the only poor experience I had in 9 years. I felt incredibly blessed to have the clients I did because I have heard some horror stories. Of course when you are selling a limited number of hunts to cut some expenses, it is different that trying to pass a huge number of clients through a place so you can turn a profit.


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Regarding pictures given to you from an outfitter pay attention to the camera angle. If the camera is set up around knee high and is shooting "upward", it will make the buck appear much bigger than a camera that is set waist to belly button high.


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