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Poaching Game Warden
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07/06/15 10:29 PM
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Monster_Raxx
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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#5820217
07/06/15 11:09 PM
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Tripper Swift
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Crazy. I just dont see how he gets to keep his job. If its common not to charge someone with a felony then thats fine but his story sounds like a bunch of BS to me. Obviously I wasnt there but this: “I had planned on harvesting an antlerless white-tailed deer and donating it to the local food bank,” sounds extremely convenient. Probably has been doing it a while knowing he had almost no chance of getting in trouble....unless he randomly gets shot.
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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#5820415
07/07/15 12:55 AM
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Wow..... unbelievable he's keeping his job. I remember this well when this happened. Alot of people concerned thinking he was out there on duty.
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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#5820456
07/07/15 01:12 AM
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Simple Searcher
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Wow..... unbelievable he's keeping his job. I remember this well when this happened. Alot of people concerned thinking he was out there on duty. I remember the story being posted here too. I recall quite a lot of bad information. But I don't remember the poaching charges, he was supposedly on duty. It is my understanding that if you have any wildlife violations that you cannot become a game warden. I guess as long as they are after the fact you are okay. Can you really stop a poacher while poaching? I guess this falls under "eliminating the competition."
Last edited by Simple Searcher; 07/07/15 01:53 AM.
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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#5820693
07/07/15 03:02 AM
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Just saying, he made a moral mistake (even more so because of his position), but then got shot, claimed responsibility, apologized, cited, fined, one month without pay, now dragged through the mud. I've heard of plenty of felons getting less...
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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#5820696
07/07/15 03:05 AM
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NDN98
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Wow, I remember following the thread about the shooting and can't believe this never came out until now. Like most people, I guess I just assumed he had a permit and then went after "poachers" himself when he heard gunshots. To me, a game warden poaching is about the equivalent of a narcotics officer dealing drugs or ATF agent doing some illegal gun running. Would those two officers still have their jobs if they were doing those things?
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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#5820743
07/07/15 03:52 AM
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rifleman
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At minimum would be transferred to the depths of beyond to keep a job.....or resign.
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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#5820761
07/07/15 04:08 AM
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bigdavehunting
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This does not pass the smell test. Just does not seem correct to keep his job.
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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#5820765
07/07/15 04:14 AM
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68A
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Not sure how he'd be able to go out and enforce a harsher penalty if he caught someone doing the same. Should be forced to resign. Not buying the preferential treatment deal.
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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#5820775
07/07/15 04:26 AM
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Shotgun Willie
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Just saying, he made a moral mistake (even more so because of his position), but then got shot, claimed responsibility, apologized, cited, fined, one month without pay, now dragged through the mud. I've heard of plenty of felons getting less... Those felons that got less aren't going to be out enforcing the laws that they broke. He was out doing something illegal, again, paid the stupid tax while doing it, and the department screwed every single tax payer in Texas to cover his medical bills and living expenses as a result of it. When you buy your tags this year, a small portion of that money is paying his bills. F him, and the shady department that covered for him. http://www.dallasnews.com/news/state/hea...es-kept-job.eceThat's because a Parks and Wildlife Department-led investigation found Fried transitioned "into a game warden law enforcement mode" just before he was shot. That let him file for workers' compensation for the injury. No, he was in "Breaking the laws he's supposed to be enforcing" mode.
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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#5820789
07/07/15 04:47 AM
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LuckyHunter
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This is typical American Justice today...
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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#5820806
07/07/15 05:21 AM
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blackcoal
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If I remember correctly he was exalted to level somewhere between hero and champion. No one could say anything derogatory about this great man, and everyone wanted his shooter to be drawn and quartered. Harshest words were not bad enough to describe the cowardly POS that shot this hero. Well, it will be interesting to see where people line up now.
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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#5820986
07/07/15 01:23 PM
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Unbelievable! TPWD is by far the most CORRUPT Law enforcement agency in the Country! Everything is grey and up to the discretion of the Officer. Talk about Power going to your head. There was another group of Game Wardens that got caught Dove hunting early and over a baited area about 3 years ago and they were slapped on the hand and the story was minimized. I know of so many bad stories including an officer giving a parent and his 9yr old son a really hard time for shooting frogs with a BB gun, and on and on.
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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#5821083
07/07/15 02:38 PM
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Railhead
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more of the "do as I say, not as I do"
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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#5821133
07/07/15 03:14 PM
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I fail to see how this is any different then a police officer getting arrested for DWI. I mean we are talking felony(GW) and Misd B(DWI), even though the GW was reduced to a misd. I've never heard of a LEO keeping his job after being found guilty of DWI. Cabela's wont hire you if you have ever been charged with a game law, fishing or hunting. And they will terminate you if you are charged with a game law during your employment with them. Sad that the State of Texas can't even keep the same ethics as Cabela's. On another note, it said he "switched from off-duty to on-duty" and so it's being handled by WC. That would be nice for quite a few police officers that were injured off-duty while trying to stop a crime. I mean, they switched to "on-duty" to prevent a crime. Many of them lost their jobs due to the severity of the injury and never received a dime. Just my
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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#5821166
07/07/15 03:40 PM
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The most entertaining part, to me, is "... file for workers' compensation for the injury..."
Let him keep the job, game wardens are short handed after all.
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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#5821199
07/07/15 04:01 PM
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The most entertaining part, to me, is "... file for workers' compensation for the injury..."
Let him keep the job, game wardens are short handed after all. They need help down on the border, free up a spot around civilization.
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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#5821209
07/07/15 04:10 PM
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nsmike
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The most entertaining part, to me, is "... file for workers' compensation for the injury..."
Let him keep the job, game wardens are short handed after all. They need help down on the border, free up a spot around civilization. I like this idea, let's see if a 3 to 4 year stint in the Lower Valley, changes him.
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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07/07/15 04:11 PM
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The most entertaining part, to me, is "... file for workers' compensation for the injury..."
Let him keep the job, game wardens are short handed after all. I read the original THF discussion that Double Naught Spy provided. It is unfortunate this happened. I should not use the word "entertaining".
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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#5821216
07/07/15 04:12 PM
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titan2232
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Cabela's will fire you if you get a fishing/hunting citation while employed there? Didn't think anyone could get fired for such a thing.
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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#5821253
07/07/15 04:35 PM
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Simple Searcher
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The most entertaining part, to me, is "... file for workers' compensation for the injury..."
Let him keep the job, game wardens are short handed after all. There is only a set amount of game wardens, it isn't like there are openings that no one will fill, Texas will only hire so many. Shorthanded is determined by how many the state will hire, not by how many people want to be a game warden. My daughter's boy friend has applied for game warden, and the process for the two openings had 1500 applicants make it to the first round of qualifying. There are clearly many people that want the job, we do not need to keep a criminal when we have such a large pool of people willing to step in and fill the only few spots available.
"Man is still a hunter, still a simple searcher after meat..." Robert C. Ruark
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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#5821340
07/07/15 05:52 PM
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The most entertaining part, to me, is "... file for workers' compensation for the injury..."
Let him keep the job, game wardens are short handed after all. There is only a set amount of game wardens, it isn't like there are openings that no one will fill, Texas will only hire so many. Shorthanded is determined by how many the state will hire, not by how many people want to be a game warden. My daughter's boy friend has applied for game warden, and the process for the two openings had 1500 applicants make it to the first round of qualifying. There are clearly many people that want the job, we do not need to keep a criminal when we have such a large pool of people willing to step in and fill the only few spots available. Agree 100%, pretty much my sentiments in the same thread in the OT. At some point the line should be drawn on integrity. How can a "law breaker" enforce the same laws with a str8 face?
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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#5821381
07/07/15 06:27 PM
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Same thing happened in my native CO a year or two back. Game warden got caught in the field will an illegal mulie buck and he didn't get fired! He was "reassigned" to a position in which he had no authority to write citations which means he is riding a desk and still drawing a paycheck!
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Re: Poaching Game Warden
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#5821387
07/07/15 06:32 PM
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7ARanch
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Even if they were "short handed" and had limited pool of replacements he should not have kept his job. Besides if he is willing to violate his integrity violating his oath of office what other things is he willing to do that do the same or worse? I'm confidant the majority of GW's are good people that do the right things for the right reasons but their willingness to "close ranks" and protect a fellow officer who violated his sworn oath is clearly wrong is more than a little disturbing. How do you trust people in an organization willing to look the other way when it's someone the know? Ethics are not situational.
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