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Thinking of getting one to nail pickets on a new fence around the house. It will most likely never get used much afterwards, so I'm wondering if something from Harbor Freight would work well enough.

They appear to come as two types - finish nailers and framing nailers. Which one would drive nails in pickets?

I already have a 26 gal compressor that I have set at 120 psi.
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It has a trigger, when trigger is pulled it shoots a nail into wood, it's really pretty simple. peep

All joking aside, rent a good one or buy a good one. Nothing is more frustrating then your equipment jamming or breaking during a project. Ridgid is what I use, but Hilti makes a darn good one that's out of my price range. Your local Lowes or HD rents them and so does most equipment rental places.


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Get a Duofast framing nail gun. It'll shoot 16 penny nails down to ring shank 10 penny nails which are perfect for the pickets.


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Originally Posted By: Cast
Get a Duofast framing nail gun. It'll shoot 16 penny nails down to ring shank 10 penny nails which are perfect for the pickets.


Thanks for the advice, but at $299 plus tax, I think I'll checking into renting one first.

Thanks again for the replies.


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Well if you were closer to me this would be done


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Well if you were closer to me this would be done


Same here. I'd loan out my nail gun.

Dan, 100% without a doubt use ring shank nails to nail on the pickets. They are the next best thing to screws, but much faster to install.

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Originally Posted By: Texas Dan
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Get a Duofast framing nail gun. It'll shoot 16 penny nails down to ring shank 10 penny nails which are perfect for the pickets.


Thanks for the advice, but at $299 plus tax, I think I'll checking into renting one first.

Thanks again for the replies.


$299 plus tax, but how much are you saving by doing it your self vs hiring it out? That's how I justify my tool costs. You'll buy all the material and spend all this time to build something, but you won't spend the money in good tools to make your life easier. I just don't get it


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Get a Duofast framing nail gun. It'll shoot 16 penny nails down to ring shank 10 penny nails which are perfect for the pickets.


Thanks for the advice, but at $299 plus tax, I think I'll checking into renting one first.

Thanks again for the replies.


$299 plus tax, but how much are you saving by doing it your self vs hiring it out? That's how I justify my tool costs. You'll buy all the material and spend all this time to build something, but you won't spend the money in good tools to make your life easier. I just don't get it



You make a good point.


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http://www.homedepot.com/p/Porter-Cable-3-1-2-in-Full-Round-Framing-Nailer-FR350B/203555586

It may not be the best one out there but I have nailed a few thousand pickets with one just like this. You can get ring shank 2" nails for it . Stainless are high dollar but galvanized ones are cheap. If you don't have a regulator on the compressor you might want to get one. As the gun and temp heats up it'll change how hard its hitting and you can drive them too deep.

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As the gun and temp heats up it'll change how hard its hitting and you can drive them too deep.


What pressure are you guys running on your pressure regulator? I found that I had to increase it to around 120 psi to drive a 90psi impact wrench with enough torque to remove lug bolts.


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Torque is not the same as driving a nail. Set the regulator for the recommended psi. You can damage things inside of you over pressure. The better nail guns have a setting on the tip that lets you control nail depth apart from air psi.


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I sort of took a different approach when I bought my nail guns. I went to the nail department and looked at what was the most popular specification on nails. Then I bought a gun that would match. Reason I did it this way was because a buddy of mine has a nail gun that he offered to let me use...I went and priced nails for it and they were higher than a giraffe's [censored] because there was only one source for them. I knew I didn't want to make the same mistake so I did it that way.

FWIW...I have a Bosch finish nailer and a Rigid framer, I don't use them often but when I do they are worth more than what I paid for them.


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As the gun and temp heats up it'll change how hard its hitting and you can drive them too deep.


What pressure are you guys running on your pressure regulator? I found that I had to increase it to around 120 psi to drive a 90psi impact wrench with enough torque to remove lug bolts.


It varied from 90-110. Lots of factors like type of wood your shooting into and nail length. I was shooting 2 inch nails into cedar for the pickets and stringers. It varied as the day went on and as you started getting wet boards from the middle of the stack that were softer. You just gota play with it.

I found is easier and faster to adjust PSI than to adjust the depth setting on the porter cable gun I was using. Maybe that's the wrong way I'm not a pro just built a few fences and made it work.

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Buy a screw gun instead your fence will last longer.

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We bought one of these, but we only spent about 160 on it a few years ago. Its been a great tool. Probably overkill for a one time use though.



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Get a Duofast framing nail gun. It'll shoot 16 penny nails down to ring shank 10 penny nails which are perfect for the pickets.


Thanks for the advice, but at $299 plus tax, I think I'll checking into renting one first.

Thanks again for the replies.


$299 plus tax, but how much are you saving by doing it your self vs hiring it out? That's how I justify my tool costs. You'll buy all the material and spend all this time to build something, but you won't spend the money in good tools to make your life easier. I just don't get it



You make a good point.


Having the right tool for the job makes everything so much easier. Try putting a screw in with a hammer.


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When my son in law was building houses from start to finish all I remember he had was Paslode nailers.He bought them and all his parts including nails from a small shop in Garland.I think he later got a new Bosch finish nailer but being a wood worker he had several.


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Originally Posted By: Bildo
Buy a screw gun instead your fence will last longer.


Clearly you have never dealt with ring shank nails...

Shoot one nail in a picket, realize you messed up, pry the picket off. The head breaks off the nail and the nail shaft remains in the runner. Screw guns on wood fences are for retired folks with nothing else to do.


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Get a Duofast framing nail gun. It'll shoot 16 penny nails down to ring shank 10 penny nails which are perfect for the pickets.


Thanks for the advice, but at $299 plus tax, I think I'll checking into renting one first.

Thanks again for the replies.


$299 plus tax, but how much are you saving by doing it your self vs hiring it out? That's how I justify my tool costs. You'll buy all the material and spend all this time to build something, but you won't spend the money in good tools to make your life easier. I just don't get it


That's how I justify buying tools to my better half...I buy the best tool I can afford/justify then have the tool for the rest of my life for any future projects....


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When my son in law was building houses from start to finish all I remember he had was Paslode nailers.He bought them and all his parts including nails from a small shop in Garland.I think he later got a new Bosch finish nailer but being a wood worker he had several.


Way back when I was building houses we used paslode Nailers and ran them hard without trouble.


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When my son in law was building houses from start to finish all I remember he had was Paslode nailers.He bought them and all his parts including nails from a small shop in Garland.I think he later got a new Bosch finish nailer but being a wood worker he had several.


Way back when I was building houses we used paslode Nailers and ran them hard without trouble.


Paslode is for sure quality equipment, that lasts for many years of projects.


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When my son in law was building houses from start to finish all I remember he had was Paslode nailers.He bought them and all his parts including nails from a small shop in Garland.I think he later got a new Bosch finish nailer but being a wood worker he had several.


Way back when I was building houses we used paslode Nailers and ran them hard without trouble.


Paslode is for sure quality equipment, that lasts for many years of projects.


My Paslode's got stolen from job sites all the time, the Ridgid's not so much. Paslode is excellent quality, and they think highly of their fasteners


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We use Paslode's for all our framing work and Bostitch for all our finish work. Like said above, ring shank nails are the way to go when installing pickets

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Thanks again for all the replies.


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for one you dont want a framing nailer for pickets, you want a coil nailer. you need galvanized ring shank nails around 1.5 to 2 inches long. for the framing nailer they are 3 times as much as they are for the coil nailer, a coil nailer is used for pickets, hardi siding or any siding, decking, trim, etc etc.
but i would reccomend screws if you want it to last, yes ring shank nails are a beast and almost impossible to remove.... at first. but 10 years down the road after years of wood expanding and contracting ring shank nails basicaly fall out. trust me on this.



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