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Setting up a Trust #5765769
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OK so I am not an NFA expert, but finally fell off the deep end and purchased a suppressor, thanks to the temptation buy all my customers, specifically Dstroud.

Tell me what the best and easiest and cheapest way to correctly set up a trust that will work. I am being told guntrust.com??

Re: Setting up a Trust [Re: HorizonFirearms] #5765778
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You can use your LLC if you don't want to set up a trust. Just FYI.

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I used:

James N. Willi
Willi Law Firm, P.C.
9600 Escarpment Blvd.
Ste. 745, PMB 34
Austin, TX 78749-1983
Main (512) 288-3200
Cell (512) 751-3229
Fax (512) 288-3202
jwilli@willi.com

very pleased with his service and knowledge of firearms in general. I would highly recommend him to anyone. You can see his website here: http://www.myguntrust.com




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Originally Posted By: TexFlip
You can use your LLC if you don't want to set up a trust. Just FYI.

I want to keep it away from the business if at all possible want to keep it strictly personal property.

Re: Setting up a Trust [Re: HorizonFirearms] #5765862
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Call The Silencer Shop in Austin. I think they do it for less than $100.00 and they are one of the highest volume suppressor dealers in the US.


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Re: Setting up a Trust [Re: stxhunter] #5765880
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Originally Posted By: stxhunter
I used:

James N. Willi
Willi Law Firm, P.C.
9600 Escarpment Blvd.
Ste. 745, PMB 34
Austin, TX 78749-1983
Main (512) 288-3200
Cell (512) 751-3229
Fax (512) 288-3202
jwilli@willi.com

very pleased with his service and knowledge of firearms in general. I would highly recommend him to anyone. You can see his website here: http://www.myguntrust.com



+1 I used him as well and have zero complaints. There are numerous horror stories regarding DIY trusts and it is not much more money to have an attorney do it properly. I really don't get why people spending upwards of 1000$ on a can doesn't want to shell out an extra 100-200$ to have a trust done properly.

Re: Setting up a Trust [Re: HorizonFirearms] #5765909
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199trust.com is pretty cheap. Every so often they run a deal on Gear Hog for $59 for a trust. Regular price is $79. I used a trust lawyer in Fort Worth for mine so I can't say how good or easy this one is.
If you want cheaper, there is a free trust template floating around the gun forums. It's up to you to decide what you want to spend and who you want to ask questions to.
Some people do their own and then ask questions on the forums and get 20 different answers. I call/e-mail my trust lawyer and get a correct answer any time I need it.


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Re: Setting up a Trust [Re: HorizonFirearms] #5766099
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I've done a few trusts using will maker. No issues at all, no questions either. It's just a document. I do my own land title deeds too. Once they're filed, it's as good as a high dollar lawyer screw job


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Re: Setting up a Trust [Re: HorizonFirearms] #5766119
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I used 199Trust and have no complaints. At the time, trust were a little higher, so I think that I paid $149 or similar.

Also, I also keep an image of each stamp on my phone; not that I've ever needed to show them.


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Re: Setting up a Trust [Re: HorizonFirearms] #5766129
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The place I bought my supressor offered to give me a trust which was 4 pages. My dad is an attorney and I talked to him about it and he wrote me one that is just over 40 pages which seems like a lot but it protects you. I have several things in my trust that are neat deals that give me some cool options as well. Steer clear of individuals that will give you a trust for free, my understanding is this falls under practicing law without a licensee which is illegal. Spend the time and money with a good lawyer it will pay off in the end.

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My recommendation is have a LAWYER do it. Only costs about $250 and takes one phone call. I used cole bryan in fort worth. I spent about 20 minutes on the phone with him and about 2 hours later he emailed me the trust. Easy as can be.


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Re: Setting up a Trust [Re: HorizonFirearms] #5766182
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x3 on James Willi.
It really comes down to what are you comfortable with.
I wasnt comfortable with a diy trust. I like the idea that i can get legal advice if needed. You wont get that with 199trust or any others like it. Granted im confident i wont need it with the trust James Willi did,but its there is my point. It gave me piece of mind going through a lawyer and really wasnt all that expensive.

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Re: Setting up a Trust [Re: stxhunter] #5766303
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Originally Posted By: stxhunter
I used:

James N. Willi
Willi Law Firm, P.C.
9600 Escarpment Blvd.
Ste. 745, PMB 34
Austin, TX 78749-1983
Main (512) 288-3200
Cell (512) 751-3229
Fax (512) 288-3202
jwilli@willi.com

very pleased with his service and knowledge of firearms in general. I would highly recommend him to anyone. You can see his website here: http://www.myguntrust.com



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that is who i used, feel real good about it. they are backing what they did for you

that being said the other day while at the silencer shop, they did the person that was in line before me in less than 15 minutes and it only cost him 129$

i was quite impressed with how quick it actually went


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Re: Setting up a Trust [Re: HorizonFirearms] #5766319
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I used these people.

Toronjo & Prosser Law
Website : www.t-plaw.com
10000 N. Central Expy
Suite 407
Dallas, TX 75231

Super easy, took maybe 30 minutes. Cost $200 and they gave me a flash drive with everything I need along with all the paper work. I have also called/emailed them since and they are very helpful with all questions. The benefits of going with a lawyer instead of a do it yourself is that they will help you down the road.


Re: Setting up a Trust [Re: HorizonFirearms] #5766346
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David Voeller is who we prefer. Very, very tight trust with lots of legal NFA know how. He pretty much specializes in NFA trust. We've never had an issue with his trust

http://www.voellerlaw.com/aboutUs-David-Voeller.php

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Look what just came up on Gear Hog, $59 trust.
http://www.gearhog.com/?did=68745


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...or just get your SOT and eliminate the Form 4 hassles. Most of our NFA items are owned by the shop as "demos". It's a write off!


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Since you're in the gun business definitely use a lawyer. There may be underlying things that need to be addressed for your specific situation. I used Chris Bass in Dallas and was pleased with his work.



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Originally Posted By: stxhunter
I used:

James N. Willi
Willi Law Firm, P.C.
9600 Escarpment Blvd.
Ste. 745, PMB 34
Austin, TX 78749-1983
Main (512) 288-3200
Cell (512) 751-3229
Fax (512) 288-3202

jwilli@willi.com

very pleased with his service and knowledge of firearms in general. I would highly recommend him to anyone. You can see his website here: http://www.myguntrust.com


I used him as well, very pleased

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Originally Posted By: stxhunter
I used:

James N. Willi
Willi Law Firm, P.C.
9600 Escarpment Blvd.
Ste. 745, PMB 34
Austin, TX 78749-1983
Main (512) 288-3200
Cell (512) 751-3229
Fax (512) 288-3202

jwilli@willi.com

very pleased with his service and knowledge of firearms in general. I would highly recommend him to anyone. You can see his website here: http://www.myguntrust.com


I used him as well, very pleased


Welp I will call this guy monday sounds like the thing to do

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When I was searching, Chris Bass in Dallas and Cole Bryan in Fort Worth were the most recommended in DFW. I went with Cole Bryan. Great to deal with before, during, and after.


It is far more important to be able to hit the target than it is to haggle over who makes a weapon or who pulls a trigger.

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I used Cole Bryan in Fort Worth as well. Great experience.


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Originally Posted By: rexmitchell
There are numerous horror stories regarding DIY trusts and it is not much more money to have an attorney do it properly.


What are your sources for the "numerous horror stories regarding DIY trusts"?

I have never heard of a single problem with them, just pissing and moaning from people who spent too much and think that you can't get a gun trust for under $150.

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There are numerous horror stories regarding DIY trusts and it is not much more money to have an attorney do it properly.


What are your sources for the "numerous horror stories regarding DIY trusts"?

I have never heard of a single problem with them, just pissing and moaning from people who spent too much and think that you can't get a gun trust for under $150.


"ATF has seen many trusts which name the same individual as the beneficiary. It would appear that all of those people are just copying the trust from someone else. They believe that one day this random person could inherit thousands of NFA firearms."

https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/2015/04/atf-statements-at-the-nra-firearms-law-seminar.html

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