This is the one that was close to 40" at 6 years old.

don,
I am also betting yours (and those on Texas ranches) as better feed and not as sleek.... and I think that may also come into play when you look at the ones from New Mexico. They look slimmer in the body.

At what age does the dark shoulder stripe appear?

Beautiful animal Don, I think I remember that photo. Baker

Found the information I was looking for Ibex Info

I was surprised at the comment on the knobbing ..I think that the knobbing is a desirable look, but what do I know.

Nubians do not have a shoulder stripe.

Nubian

Yes sir I knew about the Nubians. I was not sure if the Persian Ibex billy's had the shoulder stipe from birth or it was from maturity.

they can develop them young. here is a a pic of a billy at around 7 months.

this is him today in his winter coat. just about a year old.

There is no shoulder strips because they are not Persians ibex. There only Persian in Texas. Where's Kobus when you need him? 😃

stag man what is this?

Very beautiful animal !! Closest I have seen to Persian/Bezoar markings. How old is he?

LMAO

he will be 3 this spring. has genes from the Florida mountains. my goal in the next few years is to have persians that resemble those of New Mexico. I will likely be selling all my nubians once I get there. this was his daddy.

Aaron,

At some point, maybe when you reach your breeding goal, you should post in a separate thread how you acquired New Mexico Florida Mountain genetics. I suspect there is a good story there. (Testicles on ice???)

I also see where Rickey Hunt is also breeding Ibex.....do you and he have the same Persian Ibex genetics? just curious.

Good luck Aaron. I would think it would be tough to get the right horn structure and markings of a bezoar.

stag man i think it's completely doable. in 3-4 years we will know.

rickey hunt and I are very good friends. we have some of the same blood lines in some of our animals yes but for the most part no.

A google search reveals no native North African or Middle Eastern Nubian ibex with a shoulder stripe.

This would include live animals in Israel, Sudan and Egypt.

Roo,
I think these guy all know that.

They are talking about Persian Ibex (Bezoar Ibex) which have the stipe. Supposedly the Ibex that were released in New Mexico's Florida Mts (from Iran of all places) are as close as there are to Persian Ibex in the US.... and what the breeders want to do is get as close to "pure' as they can with the available genetics and selective breeding.

well said tony. good genetics is crucial. spending the time and money on something like this, knowing it's a slow process, is rough but to get an end result we have in mind will make it worth it...I think. lol

Lots of folks creating some very nice looking hybrid Ibex. Still have yet to see a pure persian ibex (aka Bezoar goat) in Texas. Think it will be really difficult to 'recreate' the sharp front keel with the long knots at the joints because you have to use a Nubian/Siberian/alpine ibex to get the knots - any of which are on a little different branch of the Ibex tree and have a fundamentally different horn structures from bezoars. You may be able to get something with good color and knots, but truly impossible to hybridize back to the original.

Just watch