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To shoot a cow? #5459822 12/05/14 07:19 PM
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The lease I am on is approximately 14k acres unfenced and is loaded with wildlife. I'm a meat hunter so it works out well for me as far as deer are concerned. However, I may hunt it 5 days a year because of work and family so the little time I get out there is important for me on a number of levels.

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There are wild cattle, hogs, a few wild horses, etc on the property that run up and down the river that runs through the property. These animals are feral, have lived there for the past 50 years since the prior owner of the property dissolved all ownership and released EVERYTHING. The cows are a nuisance and have begun tearing down feeders, wrecking food plots, and costing us a lot of money. I have purchased multiple feeders and hunting equipment as a result and its getting very costly very quick.

Last night I went to check on the feeders again and I spooked off 4 wild cows: 1 bull and three heifers from my feeder. They emptied out 300lbs (for a second time), but I managed to salvage the feeder.

I called the Lease Manager and he informed me that they have tried to round them up in the past but the woods/swamp are too thick and the dogs haven't been able to pin them. The LO could care less what happens to them and doesn't mind if we "remove" the cattle from the property as long as we don't leave carcasses laying about.

I'm thinking I could fill up a freezer and then some if I drop one of the older calves, but Im not sure how I feel about shooting a cow. I know it would be good meat, but jeez, its a cow, and there is no way I would be able to quarter and carve it out in the woods and make maximum use of it. I have no way of getting it out of the woods in time to save all the meat, I only have one ice chest and Im an hour away from the house so I know for a fact I wont be able to salvage it all. But man, 30 lbs of filet mignon sure sounds delicious.

So, I'm kind of in a conundrum. Do I:
Shoot a nuisance cow and take what meat I can, then remove the carcass?
Try to scare them off and hope they don't come back?
Do nothing and hope they eventually move off?


What are your thoughts?

Again, I have permission to "remove" them so that's not the issue, the issue is whether or not I should considering a) its a cow, and b) there will be wasted meat.


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Look at the price of cattle right now and I bet you will find a way to get them in a trailer.



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Post a ad on craigslist for free cows and I bet you have a cowboy with a trailer there in a hurry.


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Re: To shoot a cow? [Re: Gangly] #5459831 12/05/14 07:24 PM
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I would do it in a heartbeat. No more meat to pack out than an elk or moose. May have to make two trips to the truck but would be well worth it in my opinion.


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Originally Posted By: aggiehunter03
Look at the price of cattle right now and I bet you will find a way to get them in a trailer.


I'm willing to bet you can get a group of cowboys to haul them on the halves if they do all the wrangling. We sold two borderline downer cows a few weeks ago for $1200 each. It adds up in a hurry.


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Wait for a cool or cold day and put one down. Then you would have time to work with the meat


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<<<<< Have gun, will travel! Let me know, and I'll come help you! I know a traveling butcher, and I would give him a call to meet me and be ready to process the meat. I'd schedule a time for him to be there and have the cow on the ground already. A head shot on a cow will maximize the take home meat. If you don't plan to sell them, I'd have no problem dropping a cow for the beef.



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There are people who are in the business of capturing wild cattle. You don't say what area you are hunting in but if you check at the local feed store or livestock auction you will probably find some names/numbers. Personally I don't think shooting just one is going to fix your problem.

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Originally Posted By: landsurveyor
I would do it in a heartbeat. No more meat to pack out than an elk or moose. May have to make two trips to the truck but would be well worth it in my opinion.


yep, and buy a couple more coolers.


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Sounds like you need a dart gun.


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You can fit a calf in 2 150s no problem.

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Shoot the cow but be ready for the rightful owner to coming looking for them...

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I'll shoot one of those baby cows right in the face for a freezer full of veal. Let me know the time and place.

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lets see sirloin...rib eye...filet mingont...beef ribs...porter house.. food


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Originally Posted By: aggiehunter03
Look at the price of cattle right now and I bet you will find a way to get them in a trailer.


Damn str8!! A couple good cowboys on horseback and done deal.


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As long as the ranch is low fence, I see nothing wrong with it.

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I would get the landowners permission in writing.


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I've dealt with this before and it can be frustrating. But, if you truly have permission to remove them, then you've got money in the bank. Bait them with corn or range cubes into a temporary pen then have them hauled to town and sold. Like the guy's above said, should be easy to find some cowboys to take this on for 50% of the take.


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How many cows and where they located? Last calves we took to auction got over $350/100lbs. Even old pasture cows got $3/lb. I got a stock trailer, hotshot and portable coral for a decent cut. flag

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People get cow sized animals off of mountains... come on try a little harder.


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Originally Posted By: Gangly
The lease I am on is approximately 14k acres unfenced and is loaded with wildlife. I'm a meat hunter so it works out well for me as far as deer are concerned. However, I may hunt it 5 days a year because of work and family so the little time I get out there is important for me on a number of levels.

Problem:
There are wild cattle, hogs, a few wild horses, etc on the property that run up and down the river that runs through the property. These animals are feral, have lived there for the past 50 years since the prior owner of the property dissolved all ownership and released EVERYTHING. The cows are a nuisance and have begun tearing down feeders, wrecking food plots, and costing us a lot of money. I have purchased multiple feeders and hunting equipment as a result and its getting very costly very quick.

Last night I went to check on the feeders again and I spooked off 4 wild cows: 1 bull and three heifers from my feeder. They emptied out 300lbs (for a second time), but I managed to salvage the feeder.

I called the Lease Manager and he informed me that they have tried to round them up in the past but the woods/swamp are too thick and the dogs haven't been able to pin them. The LO could care less what happens to them and doesn't mind if we "remove" the cattle from the property as long as we don't leave carcasses laying about.

I'm thinking I could fill up a freezer and then some if I drop one of the older calves, but Im not sure how I feel about shooting a cow. I know it would be good meat, but jeez, its a cow, and there is no way I would be able to quarter and carve it out in the woods and make maximum use of it. I have no way of getting it out of the woods in time to save all the meat, I only have one ice chest and Im an hour away from the house so I know for a fact I wont be able to salvage it all. But man, 30 lbs of filet mignon sure sounds delicious.

So, I'm kind of in a conundrum. Do I:
Shoot a nuisance cow and take what meat I can, then remove the carcass?
Try to scare them off and hope they don't come back?
Do nothing and hope they eventually move off?


What are your thoughts?

Again, I have permission to "remove" them so that's not the issue, the issue is whether or not I should considering a) its a cow, and b) there will be wasted meat.


I wouldn't with out land owner written consent... Even then if that's the neighbors cattle your still screwed

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Originally Posted By: redchevy
People get cow sized animals off of mountains... come on try a little harder.


If you say so but I've butchered broken leg cattle. Big difference in 2K and 900lbs. Better hope it's a cold day

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Originally Posted By: QuitShootinYoungBucks
Originally Posted By: aggiehunter03
Look at the price of cattle right now and I bet you will find a way to get them in a trailer.


I'm willing to bet you can get a group of cowboys to haul them on the halves if they do all the wrangling. We sold two borderline downer cows a few weeks ago for $1200 each. It adds up in a hurry.


I made a lot of money in college doing this...and cattle where a lot cheaper back then. God invented dart guns and corrals to wait out withdraw times for a reason

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