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Disadvantages of hunting from a kayak #5413601 11/11/14 08:10 PM
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Im an avid duck hunter. I walk into some of my spots, I have a boat with a blind that I use to hunt out of and use to get to my spots. A buddy of mine has a kayak that he has decked out for duck hunting. My wife asked me last night if that's something that I would like for Christmas? I started thinking, (usually a dangerous situation) but I have never hunted from a kayak. What are your thoughts...advantages/disadvantages for hunting out of a kayak. How big of a kayak you think I would need?

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I personally prefer terra firma over even big boats. Kayaks can be great for access shallow water and portability. Make sure you and the kayak are stable. If you hunt with a dog this adds even more challenges to balance especially when shooting or accessing a spot. Depends on what you are in to where you hunt and how adventurous you like to be. For me there is just to many variables to run a small boat routinely with all the gear guns etc and I don't duck hunt without my dogs. I am not a water guy though.


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Re: Disadvantages of hunting from a kayak [Re: RDunlevy] #5413639 11/11/14 08:23 PM
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problem with a kayak is that 99.9% dont have a motor


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Re: Disadvantages of hunting from a kayak [Re: RDunlevy] #5413655 11/11/14 08:29 PM
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Kayaks will getchya where you cannot walk and sometimes where you cannot boat. You can launch a kayak without a boat ramp. They are easy to hide and are great exercise too. That said,you cannot get there as fast as with a boat and cannot bring as much gear. Also weather conditions have more sway on my decision to take the kayak out.

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I have a 10' academy sit on-top that I've hunted out of the past 4 years. I'd recommend at least a 12'

If you've never kayaked before duck season is really not the time to try to learn.

The biggest disadvantage is that you're going to be limited by the wind. It may be no big deal paddling a mile or two with a tail wind, but I can promise you it's not much fun paddling back into that wind headed home, especially loaded down with gear. Plus if you're hunting somewhat open water you're going to be limited by the waves and your ability as a paddler.

To an extent you're also going to be limited by the amount of gear you're able to carry. To counter that I tow a sled behind my kayak with the decoys in it most of the time (if it's real windy I hunt with less decoys and pile them into my kayak).

Those are really the only cons I can think of.

The pros are: easy to conceal (I stash mine and don't hunt in it), you can access water others might not be able to get to, you can launch where boats can't, a lot less hassle than a boat, beats the crap out of having to walk, it's legal to paddle and shoot out of, with a little effort you could have a floating blind, etc.

Get something with a high weight capacity. Generally they'll be more stable. Mine only has a capacity of 250. I weigh 200. I exceed the weight capacity every time I load it down or at least get very close.

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My buddy put some out riggers on his and built a little concealment into the process with some pvc? Im trying to figure out if I would use it enough to justify the cost?

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I use a Native Ultimate 12 with camo spray skirts, it's basically a floating layout blind that is light enough for one person to carry. It tracks extremely well without the use of a rudder and can handle deep water as well as shallow water. I can hunt spots that no one else can get to which is the primary reason I use it. As much as I've used it, I haven't had waterfowl get spooked by it once I'm stationary and camo'd up with burlap and grass. I have birds literally land right next to my boat.


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I see one major disadvantage. Kayaks can't do this!!!

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Re: Disadvantages of hunting from a kayak [Re: RDunlevy] #5413680 11/11/14 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted By: RDunlevy
My buddy put some out riggers on his and built a little concealment into the process with some pvc? Im trying to figure out if I would use it enough to justify the cost?


Truthfully I use mine a lot more for the spring white bass run than I do duck hunting these days. I've only got a couple of spots I use my yak at. I either walk in or we take a boat to get to the others. Plus - if I hunt out of my kayak, I can't take my dog.

I usually have two guys that hunt with me on any given hunt. And I own two kayaks...it gets old me having to paddle the extra boat back and forth. That's another disadvantage - you're limited to hunting by yourself or with someone else who has a kayak.

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Originally Posted By: wal1809
I see one major disadvantage. Kayaks can't do this!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58LgHwyfFx0


Airboats can't steer nor brake once you let off the gas either smile


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Re: Disadvantages of hunting from a kayak [Re: RDunlevy] #5413705 11/11/14 08:46 PM
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Yall suggest sit in or sit on kayaks? Any specific models? Im doing some research and Im kind of diggin what Im finding!

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1 seater? or 2 seater?

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I see one major disadvantage. Kayaks can't do this!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58LgHwyfFx0


Airboats can't steer nor brake once you let off the gas either smile


That is why you steer and brake with the fuel pedal.


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Look at water moccasin pirogues. Usually cheaper than a good kayak. I hunt out of a 12'x40" wide and the stability is far more than a kayak. I have plenty of room hauling me (180lbs), 2 dozen decoys, shell bag, 2 flappers, and my pup.

I have shot put of it without any fear of tipping and will go in 4" water loaded with the gear listed above. Easy to paddle and 1 man can handle it without a problem.




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I'm not the biggest duck huntin' sumbich around, but at 6'4" 270# any kayak that floats me, gear, and dog worth a flip is basically a jon boat.

I hunted out of one last year with somebody that had an extra and hunts from one a lot. In fact he may have already replied on this thread. He was pulling his (relatively) skinny arse through the mud no problem. Meanwhile I was beached like a whale - darn near had a heart attack trying to pull myself through the mud. Tried to step out the yak, big mistake, waste deep mud.

And that's how I found out motorized boats are more my thing.


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I'm not the biggest duck huntin' sumbich around, but at 6'4" 270# any kayak that floats me, gear, and dog worth a flip is basically a jon boat.

I hunted out of one last year with somebody that had an extra and hunts from one a lot. In fact he may have already replied on this thread. He was pulling his (relatively) skinny arse through the mud no problem. Meanwhile I was beached like a whale - darn near had a heart attack trying to pull myself through the mud. Tried to step out the yak, big mistake, waste deep mud.

And that's how I found out motorized boats are more my thing.


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To the OP that pirogues USMC posted looks like your huckleberry if your in the market for a single man duck rig especially for the addition of a dog.


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problem with a kayak is that 99.9% dont have a motor

This...I'm not going to paddle.

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Might want go look at a Carsten Inds duck boat. I have the Mallard. Only 100 pounds and I put a trolling motor bracket on it and run a 50 pound thrust MK. I can also use a kayak paddle and it moves it really well even loaded down. The mallard has a 500 pound load rating. It's pretty tough, I've had mine 10 years.

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I sank one of those once


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I know someone that fell out of a kayak when he shot to his side (90* shot) and 3 quick blast had him rolling the kayak. Yes we laughed at him once we made sure he was ok.

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I sank one of those once


...in the Gulf of Mexico in January laugh

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I hunted in a kayak for the first time this past Sunday, and it worked out great. I shot my one man limit by 8 am. Like others said, it depends on where you're hunting. I hunted public land that is inaccessible by big boats and really far to walk in so the kayak was perfect for my situation.

Well I kayaked to my spot and then hunted from a bank, I wouldn't feel comfortable shooting from a kayak but mine is only 12'.

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We had a pirogue, but a crazy idea told me I needed a kayak, as soon as I sold and got what I needed I was trading to get back to a pirogue. You can keep the kayaks.


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Originally Posted By: Dave Speer
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I sank one of those once


...in the Gulf of Mexico in January laugh


And it was one of the funniest things I have ever seen while duck hunting! rofl

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We had a pirogue, but a crazy idea told me I needed a kayak, as soon as I sold and got what I needed I was trading to get back to a pirogue. You can keep the kayaks.


If shooting from the boat, I prefer the decked Pirogue. It's a stable platform and I have been unable to turn it over when testing it in the summer. But if I am paddling far or in a hurry, I prefer the kayak. My kayak is 14 ft and something like a 30 inch beam. I would not want anything shorter or narrower. I do prefer a sit in kayak, but I am in the minority as most prefer sit on tops.









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