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Barbary/Audad Advice #5397835 11/04/14 05:24 AM
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Hey guys. So my wife and I both drew NM tags for Barbary in Units 29 and 30. I've done a pretty good deal of pouring over Google Earth to try and find some nasty terrain to scout if I get the chance before the hunt in Feb. I was curious if any of you have ever hunted those units and if anyone could offer some general advice on hunting these sheep. This will be my first sheep hunt of any type. Thanks in advance.

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Cover tons of ground and glass your a$$es off lol

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Wind Mountain, and the 2 other large peaks next to it in southern unit 29 will produce for you.
Anything with high hills or small mountains near the Hueco mountains in that same unit also. I have
seen some big rams while oryx hunting out there on both public and private property.


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Thanks mulie mike! That sounds like some great advice.

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Good luck. Sounds like a great time! clap



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Thanks guys. I really hope I get to scout before the hunt. If anyone else has any Barbary hunting tips for a rookie, I'm all ears...

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Please be patient, glass. Glass, Glass.
What caliber are you hunting with?
How far can you shoot accurately?
Their vision is equal to the best binos you can buy, so remember to move very slow, if you have to move at all.
If you are lucky enough to see them and stalk with in range, you must hit them accurately and HARD.THIS IS NOT A DEER, the vitals are forward and low in the torso.
Anyone who has hunted them FREE RANGE can tell you they soak up a lot of lead and they are tough.
I hope this helps, we look forward to lots of pics from your hunt.

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Originally Posted By: cazador1022
Please be patient, glass. Glass, Glass.
What caliber are you hunting with?
How far can you shoot accurately?
Their vision is equal to the best binos you can buy, so remember to move very slow, if you have to move at all.
If you are lucky enough to see them and stalk with in range, you must hit them accurately and HARD.THIS IS NOT A DEER, the vitals are forward and low in the torso.
Anyone who has hunted them FREE RANGE can tell you they soak up a lot of lead and they are tough.
I hope this helps, we look forward to lots of pics from your hunt.


I plan on glassing a ton and hunting from daylight to dark every day. I'm going to be hunting with a 300wsm most likely shooting 168gr Barnes TSX. My wife will either use that or more likely carry her 270 shooting 130gr Barnes TSX so I feel like we have enough gun. After reading what you say about where the vitals are, I've been trying to find a picture of where the vitals are located but haven't had any luck yet. I'll keep looking. Thanks.

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Oh and we're going to practice out to 500 yds in case we have to reach out with a longer shot.

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Shoot them dead in the shoulder, break it so they can't get away. A vitals shot that doesn't break the shoulder will probably result in a lost animal. They are TOUGH animals and will disappear and die. Do to admire your shot put a second in it immediately, even if he is down.

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Originally Posted By: huntwest
Shoot them dead in the shoulder, break it so they can't get away. A vitals shot that doesn't break the shoulder will probably result in a lost animal. They are TOUGH animals and will disappear and die. Do to admire your shot put a second in it immediately, even if he is down.


exactly my sentiment

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Anyone know where to find a pic of their vitals?

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They are right behind the big shoulder bone.If you shoot behind the shoulder you missed.

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Aoudad are tougher then any deer you will ever shoot. My ram still didn't give up the ghost even when my shot broke down his shoulder. Had to put a finisher in him.
When he was field dressed the bullet went through both lungs...and that's with a 300.

Also they are super wary...they are NOT your Thomson temple hand fed Corsicans. They are far more wild then any whitetail. They have eyes like a hawk.

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Originally Posted By: huntwest
They are right behind the big shoulder bone.If you shoot behind the shoulder you missed.


Are you talking the shoulder blades or basically if I hit it like a deer I've missed? I'm thinking so far that I need to follow the front let up and aim in that line no more than a 1/3 up the body. Is that correct?

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Yes. Break the shoulder bone, the lungs are right behind it.

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Through the shoulder, not behind the shoulder


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See the hole in this rams shoulder? That's where you need to shoot them and with a bonded bullet only,
no ballistic tips and a minimum of a .270



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Originally Posted By: mulie_mike
See the hole in this rams shoulder? That's where you need to shoot them and with a bonded bullet only,
no ballistic tips and a minimum of a .270


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Originally Posted By: mulie_mike
See the hole in this rams shoulder? That's where you need to shoot them and with a bonded bullet only,
no ballistic tips and a minimum of a .270



That dude is ugly. But he shot a good goat.
I'm coming back ASAP!

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Awesome. That explains it perfect. On another note, it's looking like I'm not going to have my 300wsm for the hunt as I'm having issues with it and will likely be taking a 270 with a 257 wby as a backup. The energy on the two is pretty much the same out to 400 yds. Can I rely on an accubond in the 257 wby to be bonded enough for the barbs?

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See the hole in this rams shoulder? That's where you need to shoot them and with a bonded bullet only,
no ballistic tips and a minimum of a .270


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I used a 257 WBY to shoot my ram on a hunt with Mulie Mike earlier this fall. I shoot a 257 almost exclusively and felt more confident in it for a long shot. My ram was about 210 yards and I broke his shoulder. He still took off up the hill but dropped after about 25 yards. My hunting buddy shot his with a .257wby at 368 yards and it took 2 more shots to bring it down. The only shot he had was low neck/ chest and the mace a perfect hit but didn't break any bone and his ram jumped off a 15 foot ledge and took off. His next two shots were money and the last shot broke his shoulder. We were using 110 grain Accubonds.
All that said if I do it again I am taking a 270 WBY. These animals are very tough and it took a broke shoulder to anchor them.
I think the most important thing in choosing your gun for this hunt is one you have full confidence in long range shooting and still enough bullet and energy to break that shoulder bone and keep penetrating to the lung. I had my gun sighted dead on at 300 yards so I felt confident out to 500. Take a real good shooting rest or have a bipod on your gun. The only shot I had was standing up and using a a bipod stick for a rest. Partner had time to get prone and use his bipod. You have to be quick on these animals or they will disappear fast.

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By the way the dude in the pic was our guide and we saw a bruiser like his while on the hunt. I wonder if went out and got-that sucker!
Oh yea and be ready to pack it out, doubtful you'll be close to a road if you get one. I have heard of some people eating the meat but after smelling the ram I am pretty sure anyone that says it is good has non functional taste buds.

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Ah he's not that bad (once you get used to him). He earned that bad boy though and was patient (6 years waiting) to get a ram like
that for his wall. We took him out in the Big Bend area/CDP so that bruiser you guys saw is still running around.


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Thanks guys. This is getting me pumped up about the hunt and it's still over 3 months away!

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