Bar z but I just looked it already sold


I just don't see it three years later, two yes but don't know about three. I'm trying not to crawfish but know your in my head...lol time will tell which one of us is right

First two pics, the buck is probably 3.5. On a 300 tract, you might want to take him. Or not, your choice.

Then you are that neighbor. All but one of this pics above is on a 220 ranch, with a 155 taken last year that was watched and passed on for a few years. And that's with a day lease next door!!!

Shoulders aren't full and muscled enough for me to call him 3.5. I'm going 2.5 as well. He is still a gangly teenager.

Can you be that neighbor if you don't gripe about that neighbor?

No, because your shooting it because you want too not because you need an excuse.

I personally don't care what anyone shoots, happy for every hunter that posts a deer, big, small, ugly, pretty.

but if you are trying to get older age classes and decide to shoot it because you neighbor might then you are that neighbor and you made an excuse to kill it. If you want it, shoot it!!!! be proud but don't lesson it via an excuse.

That ranch would have been a guess but thought it sold a while back.

I know it was for sale earlier this year, I bought 10 lotto tickets that week. It apparently wasn't ment to be

Don't see it and I am not far from you. What do you think the top end and management is like on the place that you are hunting compared to where he is hunting. What is the supplemental feeding program on your place like?

Like I said, I am not far from you and our rainfall has not been that great. This Summer and early fall has been good, but we had a record setting dry winter and rains started late in the growing season.

As far as brows go...two year olds can grow them or is he a 1.5....


And you and STX know better than to age looking at the antlers

What kind of management and what is the top end that comes of that "day lease"

You ain't got any rain? I don't want to rub it in then...,,,cause we have gotten hammered. Last weekend every tank was at the spill way been that way all year. Also bright green. All road are washed out, etc...


No protein on us or HOT, Management is simple via age for us, next door age and 8pt over 120 and 10pt 125.

Top end on day lease is same as us mid to upper 50's but 70's isn't out of the question, and 60's gets killed about every two to three years. Now this year maybe a different story, it's not part of HOT anymore and they got 40guys on it as straight lease but all still bow. It actually will probably push a lot of deer to us.

As far as what the OP has around him I have no idea,

Oh no, we have had the recent rains and the Summer rains. Tanks are full and we are about as green as I have seen it this time of year. Last 4 years has been spotty, but 2011 was the last great winter/spring rain season.

2011 we where dust, we got good rains early this year. And your over 15 miles

We were too...looked back and it was 2010 since our last great Spring

I think 2011 was when are doe weights dropped 20%, don't think we killed any bucks that year

I don't have our records here, but ours dropped too. Bucks even more than the doe and antler decline was amazing. It was sad when you cleaned one, not an ounce of fat on them. The buck in that pic was killed the next year and scored 137 7/8" if I remember correct.

It was bad, we where feeding alaflafa that year just during fall and the where hammering it... Unfortunately same year alaflafa was over 400 a ton in places

Do you remember the price of hay? It was cheaper to ship it in from Mississippi...

Back to the topic...you are wrong

And you ignored my statement...

This property is between Eden and Brady - around the Melvin area. We don't have a management strategy at all. My stepdad doesn't shoot a buck unless it will go on his wall, and he has some nice bucks. (The nicest I have seen off the property I would guess is a 140 class deer.) I am becoming the same way, but as I started hunting only 6 years ago, my standards aren't quite as high. I'm also not nearly as good judging deer - these forums help a ton there. The crazy family members will shoot anything they see with antlers...

We had a relatively dry spring, but had some good summer rains. There is no supplemental feeding on the property, just corn feeders starting in mid August to get the deer coming through. About 150 acres of the 300 is in cultivation. It was in winter wheat last year, not sowed at the moment. 2011 was really bad, 2012 was pretty poor too if I remember correctly. But 2011 the pastures just looked barren...

This is the best I have ever seen our bucks look in the ~5 years I've been hunting - and that is the primary reason I am considering taking the spike. If he can't branch when all of the rest of our yearlings are looking good, well, he may not be what I want.

I think the deer in our area have great potential - every year there are some nice 2.5 YO bucks taken. Its just the age/nutrition question. Other than bucks taken many years ago, I have never seen a 5.5/6.5 YO deer in the area.

I had already decided to let the 10 walk. There is a 90% chance somebody will shoot him this year, but it's not gonna be me. Like already said, if he can get a couple more years, he will be an absolute beast for this area. Those browtines keep getting me, hopefully he will still be around in a few years!

We are neighbors:)

I didn't base my thoughts off horns. STX tossed out brows. But he is right I've never seen a 2.5 with brows like that...until now

He is not a yearling and with better pics might call him a scrawny 3 yr old looking at facial features and he was a spike his first year. And luckly he put all his antler growth in those huge browtines cause he ain't got crap for other tine length, spread, beams or mass as a scrawny 3 yr old.

For txshntr

Someone done poked the bear