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How important is a good release?
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08/08/14 04:34 PM
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spoon33
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The release I have is probably 15 years old and I've never shot anything else. I just looked online and some of the releases cost over $200. Does a new/good release help out with accuracy? I don't hit bullseye everytime when practicing, but I think it has more to do with lack of practice instead of my release, but I could be wrong. So does a good release really help??
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Re: How important is a good release?
[Re: spoon33]
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08/08/14 04:44 PM
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redchevy
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I shoot a $15 release from academy. My shooting doesn't depend on the release. You can spend as much as you want on one, but it wont make you a better or worse shot.
It's hell eatin em live
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Re: How important is a good release?
[Re: spoon33]
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08/08/14 05:36 PM
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I have a Trufire black max hardcore. I shot a Scott's wildcat before and then a $15 academy release before that. I like my expensive release a whole lot better. It is more comfortable and the trigger is a hell of a lot better. My $.02 is go with what you like that you can afford.
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Re: How important is a good release?
[Re: spoon33]
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08/08/14 07:09 PM
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catslayer
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How important is a good trigger on a rifle?
Does it work with a cheap one? Yeah,
can you shoot accurately with a cheap one, sometimes, depends on how much you shoot it and how bad it actually is.
Could getting a better one improve your accuracy, often yes
is it a magic bullet or a necessity, no. You CAN shoot fingers.
I shoot a trufire hardcore. Love it, wont go back to a caliper.
Last edited by catslayer; 08/08/14 07:11 PM.
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Re: How important is a good release?
[Re: spoon33]
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08/08/14 08:09 PM
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bjankowski
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I guess it all depends on the level you want to shoot at. To me it's as important as a steering wheel on a car! I shoot a Ken Stanislawski Genesis Mag X..Not cheap!
Cheap releases are cheap for a reason!
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Re: How important is a good release?
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08/08/14 08:26 PM
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PhilR
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I started out cheap.
Shooting a Stan Just X now. I won't go back to the lesser ones.
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Re: How important is a good release?
[Re: spoon33]
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08/08/14 09:44 PM
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How important is a good trigger on a rifle?
Does it work with a cheap one? Yeah,
can you shoot accurately with a cheap one, sometimes, depends on how much you shoot it and how bad it actually is.
Could getting a better one improve your accuracy, often yes
is it a magic bullet or a necessity, no. You CAN shoot fingers.
I shoot a trufire hardcore. Love it, wont go back to a caliper. I shoot a Spot Hogg Wise Guy. If you are interested in a Wise Guy let me know and will see if I can save you a few bucks, I am a Spot Hogg dealer.
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Re: How important is a good release?
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08/08/14 09:45 PM
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I shoot a $15 release from academy. My shooting doesn't depend on the release. You can spend as much as you want on one, but it wont make you a better or worse shot. Can promise this answer is dead wrong, but it has nothing to do with the cost and more to do with the feel. Although my TB Boss-X throws the tightess group out of all my releases and it cost a pretty penny. With that side I have a $40 tru-fire that is almost as good after some modifications.
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Re: How important is a good release?
[Re: spoon33]
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08/08/14 10:03 PM
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bjankowski
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To be fair to the guy that only brings his bow out two weeks before hunting season and is happy to hold a five inch group at 20 yards, then a cheap release if perfectly fine!... but if your competing indoor five spot with guys that shoot 300, 5-15 x I promise you that you will not see a release in their hand under $200.00.
A lot of guys shoot 20, 25 arrows daily, then there are the IDIOTS like me that shot at least 100 a day and one week ends it's triple that. A cheap release won't last a week!
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Re: How important is a good release?
[Re: spoon33]
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08/09/14 12:35 AM
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I'm with the cheap release crowd. I shoot a Cobra caliper trigger release from Academy. I've shot pricier releases, couldn't tell a difference. I don't shoot indoor 3D or anything like that though. I practice in my backyard and I hunt. Cobra release works fine for me. I've shot releases that were $19 and some that were $119, always caliper since that's what I'm used to, and they all felt about the same to me.
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Re: How important is a good release?
[Re: spoon33]
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08/09/14 01:55 AM
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kmon11
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I have tried shooting lots of releases and some I like best are: wrist strapped release Scott Shark or True Fire Edge Hybrid foldback. 4 finger True Fire Edge. I also still sometimes use an old Hotshot release made in the early 80s in Rockwall Texas.
If the release fits you and you are not torqueing the string with it good accuracy can be had with about any of them IMO. If I were shooting competition I would most likely go with more expensive releases.
lf the saying "Liar, Liar your pants on fire" were true Mainstream news might be fun to watch
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Re: How important is a good release?
[Re: spoon33]
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08/09/14 02:25 AM
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It makes a difference.. Finding one that's comfortable is the main thing.. Didn't have to be high dollar just needs to fit you well.. Goes for clothes, sights, peeps, stands etc... Whatever you can do to make yourself more comfortable while hunting/shooting makes a big difference... Once I went to a little goose from an old school cobra it just made things flow better.. Also stared hunting in a hoody, under armor gloves, etc.. And saw a difference also... Just grabbing a bow and shooting at a target you may not see the difference but sit in a tree for 4 hours then trying to make a shot you will appreciate the little things
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Re: How important is a good release?
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08/09/14 06:09 AM
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RLoving1
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To be fair to the guy that only brings his bow out two weeks before hunting season and is happy to hold a five inch group at 20 yards, then a cheap release if perfectly fine!... but if your competing indoor five spot with guys that shoot 300, 5-15 x I promise you that you will not see a release in their hand under $200.00.
A lot of guys shoot 20, 25 arrows daily, then there are the IDIOTS like me that shot at least 100 a day and one week ends it's triple that. A cheap release won't last a week!
say what? I have and still shoot the Gen X you gave me...but still slinging carbon with my trufire patriot jr.,going on 6-7 years?
Brayden (Lazy L's Southern Comfort) you will be missed! You were more than a pet you were my reason to rise and return for many days! You were my rock! 12/26/03-10/25/13
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Re: How important is a good release?
[Re: RLoving1]
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08/09/14 01:02 PM
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bjankowski
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To be fair to the guy that only brings his bow out two weeks before hunting season and is happy to hold a five inch group at 20 yards, then a cheap release if perfectly fine!... but if your competing indoor five spot with guys that shoot 300, 5-15 x I promise you that you will not see a release in their hand under $200.00.
A lot of guys shoot 20, 25 arrows daily, then there are the IDIOTS like me that shot at least 100 a day and one week ends it's triple that. A cheap release won't last a week!
say what? I have and still shoot the Gen X you gave me...but still slinging carbon with my trufire patriot jr.,going on 6-7 years? Don't make me come up there Monday and put a hurting you (I'll make you buy supper next time) ... Yes you drill arrows, but Bubba theres a lot difference of shooting a bag target at 20 yards with the bulls eye being about three inches and shooting five spot where the x ring is the size of a dime at twenty yards. Why would I want to have a good release to shoot competition and a cheap on to hunt with? You know how I feel about a wrist release, I refuse to own one!... DEPENDS on the level you want to shoot at. Remember I used to compete and do the Bowtech shows a heck of a lot more than I used to hunt... BTW I might have some more arrows for you Monday; let me see what I have here I'm not using anymore, since I'm trying to get up to 550-600 grains for my trads, have to check some this weekend for deflection my feeling is they are going to be too weak, when I add more FOC, I have to go to aluminum arrows to get over 12gn GPI.
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Re: How important is a good release?
[Re: spoon33]
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08/09/14 07:09 PM
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I would say a good one is important. I've been shooting a Fletch-hunter strap release for 25 years. I see no reason to buy the latest and greatest as this one hasn't failed me and does the job well.
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Re: How important is a good release?
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08/09/14 07:16 PM
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a good release is important. However, do not confuse the words good and expensive.it should be comfortable, it should have a smooth crisp trigger release.that can definitely be had for less than 200.
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Re: How important is a good release?
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08/09/14 10:31 PM
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a good release is important. However, do not confuse the words good and expensive.it should be comfortable, it should have a smooth crisp trigger release.that can definitely be had for less than 200. Yup i felt like i lost my mind when i spent $60 on one lol
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Re: How important is a good release?
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08/10/14 05:10 AM
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a good release is important. However, do not confuse the words good and expensive.it should be comfortable, it should have a smooth crisp trigger release.that can definitely be had for less than 200. That is a matter of perspective. I am not aware of a wrist release that expensive, most of them can be had for $100 or less. I own a Scott Sabertooth (but never use it, in fact I think my buddy is using it) I currently am switching between a Scott Longhorn and my old Carter Big Kid (both are handheld; one is a hinge, the other is a thumb release) Quality hand held releases kind of start at the $150 price point, and go up from there. That is where you get into Carter, Stan, Scott, Tru-Ball and other similar quality releases.
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Re: How important is a good release?
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08/10/14 12:49 PM
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bjankowski
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a good release is important. However, do not confuse the words good and expensive.it should be comfortable, it should have a smooth crisp trigger release.that can definitely be had for less than 200. That is a matter of perspective. I am not aware of a wrist release that expensive, most of them can be had for $100 or less. I own a Scott Sabertooth (but never use it, in fact I think my buddy is using it) I currently am switching between a Scott Longhorn and my old Carter Big Kid (both are handheld; one is a hinge, the other is a thumb release) Quality hand held releases kind of start at the $150 price point, and go up from there. That is where you get into Carter, Stan, Scott, Tru-Ball and other similar quality releases. Those are all quality releases. I'm like you, thumb release is the only way to go. A wrist release feels like I'm wearing shoes on the wrong foot. I gotta have that thumb pointing down, not sticking in my ear; it takes a lot of forearm muscles out of the picture. Also with a thumb release no chance ever of punching the trigger or target panic if shot correctly.
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Re: How important is a good release?
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08/10/14 05:09 PM
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My thumb knuckle in the hollow under my ear is my anchor point.
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Re: How important is a good release?
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08/11/14 09:11 AM
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bjankowski
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Real quick why I won't shoot a wrist release; in the short fifty years of studying this sport I've picked up a few things, a lot from the Koreans, the masters of the bow. In archery we take out as much muscle tension on the shot as possible. Here's why I shoot thumb release, of course the thumb is pointing down. Try this, raise your release arm if your right handed it's your right hand; put your knuckles against your ear thumb pointing down... Now with your bow arm reach over and grab your forearm... now twist your hand to the position of shooting a wrist release... you feel the extra muscles put into play because it's a forced position, not relaxed.. Just saying why I shoot thumb or back tension release.... it's not wrong to shoot a wrist release, just the extra work is not necessary, and if you've been doing it for years, then you're already created muscle memory that feels right for you. I'm not even going to get into griping the bow correctly, that one drives me nuts, especially of those with tv hunting shows that newbies look to as experts! Bow fingers sticking out like a porcupine, I want to cut them off!!!
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Re: How important is a good release?
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08/11/14 11:43 AM
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Bring your nail clippers with you old guy and trim my nails....I think I stick my fingers out! Or at least one of them for you.
Brayden (Lazy L's Southern Comfort) you will be missed! You were more than a pet you were my reason to rise and return for many days! You were my rock! 12/26/03-10/25/13
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Re: How important is a good release?
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08/11/14 09:31 PM
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Bring your nail clippers with you old guy and trim my nails....I think I stick my fingers out! Or at least one of them for you. No you don't I taught you how grip a bow; don't start nothing and there will be nothing. I watched you shoot two weeks ago; or I would have cut off those sticking out fingers.
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Re: How important is a good release?
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08/12/14 03:34 PM
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I only have a few months experience shooting a bow so take this for what it's worth....
I use a Scott Shark wrist release and have used a thumb release once. My Scott Shark was about 50 or 60 dollars and the thumb release was around 150-200. He was only able to out score me once while shooting 3D multiple times(his bow was also more high end than my Hoyt Charger as well). In my opinion, it's not the bow or the release that makes the shooter.
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Re: How important is a good release?
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08/12/14 06:39 PM
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bjankowski
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I only have a few months experience shooting a bow so take this for what it's worth....
I use a Scott Shark wrist release and have used a thumb release once. My Scott Shark was about 50 or 60 dollars and the thumb release was around 150-200. He was only able to out score me once while shooting 3D multiple times(his bow was also more high end than my Hoyt Charger as well). In my opinion, it's not the bow or the release that makes the shooter. I agree; there's not one single piece of equipment going to make up for bad form or just a bad shooter.
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