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Latest on the Threatened Grouse #5110025 05/12/14 05:37 PM
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The Governor of Kansas signed the state sovereignty over non-migratory wildlife Bill related to Prairie Chickens, but it was watered down in the Kansas House removing the fine and arrest of Federal officers that may try to enforce it. In the end, I doubt Kansas will win the coming lawsuits.
http://www.kansas.com/2014/05/10/3449289/brownback-signs-bill-aimed-to.html

Because I have plans to hunt PC in Kansas next September I watched the podcast of the Kansas Dept of Wildlife meeting. Looks like the Southwest PC zone will be closed and there will still be an early season in the Northwest and Eastern zones. Take of Lesser PC will be allowed incidental to hunting Greater PC. They are working out details to have hunters turn in wings for DNA analysis to see were populations are at in that NW zone. I would not be surprised if we see the southern boundary of the NW zone altered after they get the results.

I am going to Colorado on the same road trip to hunt Sage Grouse. Greater Sage Grouse comes up for a listing determination September 2015. Considering the recent threatened listing of Lesser PC and decisions on Gunnison Sage Grouse and Lesser PC both having been postponed before final decisions I would put the final date of listing of Greater Sage Grouse as either threatened or endangered to actually be later than September 2015. I figure we will only have two more seasons before Greater Sage Grouse hunting is closed in the US if States do not close it earlier than that. All things considered I think the listing is going to happen and I doubt we will see Sage Grouse hunting come back within our lifetimes.

That is very adventuresome hunting for needles in haystacks on prairie and sage desert in September and not the best time for birds to be mounted, but since it is a farewell hunt, I do need to line up a good taxidermist in each area in case if I get a nice adult Lesser PC and Greater SG on the trip. I regret I did not do so last time.


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Re: Latest on the Threatened Grouse [Re: Sniper John] #5200502 07/14/14 02:21 PM
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Re: Latest on the Threatened Grouse [Re: Longwinger] #5213582 07/22/14 08:28 PM
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John,

Not sure I understand, do you think season in the SW zone will be open this year. I lost my female last year to hunting dog hypoglycemia (3 year old), and I have a new male pup right now. However, if they are shutting this down, I will borrow a couple females and hit the road.

I went and got my sage grouse in 2012.

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Lesser Prairie Chicken were listed as threatened. No hunting season in Kansas this year or probably ever again. Here's a link to Kansas State University's prairie chicken website http://www.ksre.k-state.edu/p.aspx?tabid=275 Lots of info

Sorry to see lessers and now sage grouse in most of Montana become off limits to hunters that are not to blame for the demise in population.

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Re: Latest on the Threatened Grouse [Re: Sniper John] #5220213 07/27/14 02:07 AM
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There will still be a Prairie Chicken Season in Kansas. Greater Prairie Chicken are not threatened and can still be hunted. The East Unit Zone and Northwest Unit Zone is still open for the early and late season this year. Only the SW zone is closed which did not have an early season anyway. Where the two species ranges overlap outside of the SW zone incidental take of LPC by hunters legally hunting GPC is allowed under a "4D" rule. http://www.fws.gov/southwest/es/documents/R2ES/LPC_Final_4d_rule_FR_20140327.pdf

But there is bad news in that all of the counties in the NW zone where the two species do overlap have just had the CRP acreage in those counties approved for emergency haying and grazing.
http://kansasagnetwork.com/2014/crp-emergency-haying-and-grazing-approved-for-44-kansas-counties/

Re: Latest on the Threatened Grouse [Re: Sniper John] #5220319 07/27/14 03:22 AM
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I just noticed on the KS dept of wildlife website they are still showing a 2014 late season in the SW zone. And it is shown on the zone map. confused2
http://kdwpt.state.ks.us/Hunting/When-to-Hunt/Upland-Game-Bird-Seasons
I would have thought they would have changed it by now. Hmmm? Kansas did pass a bill that declares state sovereignty over non-migratory wildlife and prevents federal regulation of prairie chickens.

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