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CHL Course Changes
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05/08/13 04:35 PM
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Jason B
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I heard on the news the other night that the CHL course has been changed from 10hr minimum to 4 hour minimum. They didn't mention renewals. Wonder how many hours/what course work will now be required for renewal.
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Re: CHL Course Changes
[Re: Jason B]
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05/08/13 04:40 PM
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Senate voted it changed last Saturday, don't think it has made it to House and Gov desk yet.
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Re: CHL Course Changes
[Re: RKHarm24]
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05/08/13 06:36 PM
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That's a big drop! I'm signed up for the 10 hour class June 15th I only wish it was 4 hours
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Re: CHL Course Changes
[Re: AdvTX]
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05/09/13 01:19 AM
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I heard about this. I'm with some others here - I will be interested to see if it affects our reciprocity with other states.
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Re: CHL Course Changes
[Re: Grizz]
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05/09/13 02:44 AM
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Ron H
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The DMN stated that most of these changes wouldn't make it to the goobner. The Senate has not included them on the calendar and they are running out of time. The speculation is that the house is going to take credit for doing something they didn't expect to get through but they will still brag about how it wasn't their fault. Politics as usual!
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Re: CHL Course Changes
[Re: Ron H]
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05/10/13 01:03 PM
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Saw this on 11 news last night said Perrys going to sign it into law...
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Re: CHL Course Changes
[Re: webstertroy]
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05/10/13 02:05 PM
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Ron H
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DMN had the same story this morning, they expect perry to sign it.
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Re: CHL Course Changes
[Re: Ron H]
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05/10/13 02:23 PM
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It was voted on 5-6 by house and it passed and it is in stsge 6 which is Perry, once he signs it, which he said he would, the Bill becomes Law. It will change 10-15 hours to 4-6 hours. Obviously you can't start teaching 4-6 until it becomes law so until them stay at 10 hours
Last edited by hookm32; 05/10/13 02:39 PM.
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Re: CHL Course Changes
[Re: hookm32]
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05/10/13 03:01 PM
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Anyone have any info on the effect on renewals?
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Re: CHL Course Changes
[Re: 007hunter]
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05/10/13 04:06 PM
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they really have to stretch it out and slow down to make it last 10 hours now if it's a small group
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Re: CHL Course Changes
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05/13/13 06:39 PM
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The bill states renewals now have to take the full course of 4-6 hrs. I teach so I have to stay up on it.
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Re: CHL Course Changes
[Re: LarryT]
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05/13/13 06:41 PM
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The bill states renewals now have to take the full course of 4-6 hrs. I teach so I have to stay up on it. dammit
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Re: CHL Course Changes
[Re: kdub]
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05/21/13 03:30 AM
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i took the 10 hour class, it wasn't too bad and i actually really enjoyed it. i feel like 4 hours would be too short for people who are just getting into CHL. From what i have seen in south texas alot of new CHL applicants are people who have never fired a gun and are buying guns because of all the craziness happening up north. i feel like a proper foundation and education should be in place for these newcomers to CHL and owning a firearm.
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Re: CHL Course Changes
[Re: nomulligan]
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05/21/13 04:01 AM
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i took the 10 hour class, it wasn't too bad and i actually really enjoyed it. i feel like 4 hours would be too short for people who are just getting into CHL. From what i have seen in south texas alot of new CHL applicants are people who have never fired a gun and are buying guns because of all the craziness happening up north. i feel like a proper foundation and education should be in place for these newcomers to CHL and owning a firearm. The CHL course is not designed and should not be a basic handgun class. It is to familiarize you with the laws of when you may use deadly force. If you need instruction on other topics such as gun safety, basic marksmanship, gun storage, etc., there are other courses to assist in those areas.
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Re: CHL Course Changes
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05/21/13 04:40 PM
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If you do not know how to use a hand gun in a safe manor. Then you should not be allowed to carrier concealed or otherwise. Just my 2 cents. Go learn gun safety and get familiar with a hand gun then take the CHL Class.
If I'm not hunting something I must be dead.
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Re: CHL Course Changes
[Re: notamtchance]
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05/21/13 04:52 PM
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Two family members of mine are taking it in July. I hope they get the abbreviated course.
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Re: CHL Course Changes
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05/21/13 08:24 PM
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kdub
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I read it wrong. I thought renewals were going from 4 hrs to 10. Sweet.
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Re: CHL Course Changes
[Re: kdub]
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05/22/13 07:06 PM
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LarryT
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I think it will be a good thing. Most instructors have had to add a lot to get to 10 hours, some are rummored to just cut the class short. I have added a lot of basic stuff to fill in. I totally believe you should know what you are doing before you take a class. I have also had ppl who know rifles but not handguns take & pass the class who turn out to be good shots. The thing to remember is these ppl are not becomming cops but just gaining the ability to legally defend themselves.
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Re: CHL Course Changes
[Re: LarryT]
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05/22/13 07:07 PM
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[quote=LarryTThe thing to remember is these ppl are not becomming cops but just gaining the ability to legally defend themselves.[/quote]
Exactly
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Re: CHL Course Changes
[Re: Closed Traverse]
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05/22/13 07:24 PM
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[quote=LarryTThe thing to remember is these ppl are not becomming cops but just gaining the ability to legally defend themselves. Exactly [/quote] Which I have no problem with. However, as a responsible gun owner you better know how to use your gun in a safe and responsible manner. And if you can't then you don't need a CHL. Learn your weapon and then get a CHL.
If I'm not hunting something I must be dead.
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Re: CHL Course Changes
[Re: notamtchance]
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05/22/13 09:45 PM
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The thing to remember is these ppl are not becomming cops but just gaining the ability to legally defend themselves. Exactly Which I have no problem with. However, as a responsible gun owner you better know how to use your gun in a safe and responsible manner. And if you can't then you don't need a CHL. Learn your weapon and then get a CHL. Exactly... If I am showing you how to load a magazine and how to operate the firearm between the class time and the range time, then you have no business in the class. You are not ready at that point.
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Re: CHL Course Changes
[Re: cyphertext]
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05/25/13 10:18 PM
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i took the 10 hour class, it wasn't too bad and i actually really enjoyed it. i feel like 4 hours would be too short for people who are just getting into CHL. From what i have seen in south texas alot of new CHL applicants are people who have never fired a gun and are buying guns because of all the craziness happening up north. i feel like a proper foundation and education should be in place for these newcomers to CHL and owning a firearm. The CHL course is not designed and should not be a basic handgun class. It is to familiarize you with the laws of when you may use deadly force. If you need instruction on other topics such as gun safety, basic marksmanship, gun storage, etc., there are other courses to assist in those areas. bingo. the CHL class in not a firearms license class (which we dont have down here thank god) When you take the driving exam, they dont make you change a tire, pump gas, or change your oil.
The very atmosphere of firearms anywhere and everywhere restrains evil interference. -George Washington
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Re: CHL Course Changes
[Re: TFF Caribou]
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05/30/13 02:25 PM
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i sure hope it hasn't changed, i personaly believe the course is much to easy for people to pass in the first place, i am all for people being able to defend thelmselves but just because you have a clean record to get the license does not mean you have enough sense to safely carry a weapon. I personally have seen many yahoos in my CHL classes and renue classes that i said to myself " God that is the last person that should be allowed to carry a gun"
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Re: CHL Course Changes
[Re: jollyrancher]
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05/30/13 09:39 PM
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TxBowHunter409
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I'm a CHL instructor here in Orange, Texas and yes Senate Bill 864 passed the House, Senate and was signed by Governor Perry on 05/24/13.
This new law reduces the classroom time from 10-15 hours down to 4-6 and goes into effect on September 01, 2013.
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Re: CHL Course Changes
[Re: TxBowHunter409]
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05/30/13 09:48 PM
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TxBowHunter409
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You will also be interested to know that House Bill 48 eliminates the requirement to take a proficiency course from a qualified instructor in order to renew a concealed handgun license. This will be replaced by an online renewal method through the Texas Department of Public Safety which will update the nenewal applicant of any upcoming/past changes to the concealed handgun laws.
This bill has passed both the House and Senate and was sent to Governor Perry on 05/25/13 for his signature.
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