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Utah Senate approves concealed carry without a license! #4123167 03/15/13 03:57 PM
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By David Montero

| The Salt Lake Tribune
First Published Mar 13 2013 10:51 am • Last Updated Mar 13 2013 11:16 pm

The Utah Senate set up a showdown between Gov. Gary Herbert and the Legislature by passing a bill on Wednesday that would allow people to carry a concealed firearm without a permit.

HB76 has given Herbert some consternation and he’s seen pressure from a variety of groups to veto the measure — including from the League of Women Voters and a newly formed group called Utah Parents Against Gun Violence.


http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/politics/55998233-90/bill-herbert-utah-gun.html.csp

Re: Utah Senate approves concealed carry without a license! [Re: Gravytrain] #4123354 03/15/13 05:30 PM
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Not sure I like that. Just make a chl have a cheap processing fee. With a back ground check. I 'm not sure I want everyone that owns a gun carrying. I think some safety net is a good thing. At the very least a gun safety class. Jmo.

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Re: Utah Senate approves concealed carry without a license! [Re: notamtchance] #4126643 03/17/13 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: notamtchance
Not sure I like that. Just make a chl have a cheap processing fee. With a back ground check. I 'm not sure I want everyone that owns a gun carrying. I think some safety net is a good thing. At the very least a gun safety class. Jmo.


Wow. This sounds an awful lot like a liberal argument. You either have the right to keep and bear arms, or you don't.

"Oh, you can have a gun, but you can't carry it or conceal it to protect yourself. Also, you have to pay money, have your privacy invaded and attend a class."

Hmmmmm, that sounds like infringement to me.

Re: Utah Senate approves concealed carry without a license! [Re: texretvet] #4126754 03/17/13 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted By: texretvet
Originally Posted By: notamtchance
Not sure I like that. Just make a chl have a cheap processing fee. With a back ground check. I 'm not sure I want everyone that owns a gun carrying. I think some safety net is a good thing. At the very least a gun safety class. Jmo.


Wow. This sounds an awful lot like a liberal argument. You either have the right to keep and bear arms, or you don't.

"Oh, you can have a gun, but you can't carry it or conceal it to protect yourself. Also, you have to pay money, have your privacy invaded and attend a class."

Hmmmmm, that sounds like infringement to me.


X2. If someone is talking in ANY way about the "terms" under which "they" will "allow" me to own, use or carry my gun, they are infringing and that's a 2A violation, IMO.



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Re: Utah Senate approves concealed carry without a license! [Re: IronSpikeLabs] #4127209 03/17/13 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted By: IronSpikeLabs
Originally Posted By: texretvet
Originally Posted By: notamtchance
Not sure I like that. Just make a chl have a cheap processing fee. With a back ground check. I 'm not sure I want everyone that owns a gun carrying. I think some safety net is a good thing. At the very least a gun safety class. Jmo.


Wow. This sounds an awful lot like a liberal argument. You either have the right to keep and bear arms, or you don't.

"Oh, you can have a gun, but you can't carry it or conceal it to protect yourself. Also, you have to pay money, have your privacy invaded and attend a class."

Hmmmmm, that sounds like infringement to me.


X2. If someone is talking in ANY way about the "terms" under which "they" will "allow" me to own, use or carry my gun, they are infringing and that's a 2A violation, IMO.

That's a good way to put it.

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