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Coccidiosis Treatment
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03/05/13 05:14 PM
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I was just sending an email to help out another breeder who had an outbreak of coccidiosis. In responding with some advice, I realized this would be a helpful post for some others who keep multiple dogs - especially if they frequent land where chickens, ducks, goats or sheep may be. Despite the stigma that it "MUST" come from a dirty environment, Coccidia is a protozoa that stays around and propagates easily, so it's not uncommon to deal with it when caring for rural dogs. It's easily passed along via the ground, water or utility items from birds or livestock to dogs. Unpleasant for older dogs, it can cause diarrhea or even vomiting and if allowed to progress, can be lethal to small pups. When I broke down the math to help this other breeder concerning medications, I was amazed that I spend $60 where the same amount of medicine, purchased thru a vet would cost in upwards of $2,900.00. For those that would find this info useful, here is some info from my email to the other breeder to file away for future use: Your vet is right, once it's on the property, coccidia just keeps going around and around. Deal with it the same way you do parasites, because they never go away, either.
I keep a gallon jug of Sulfadimethoxine to treat all of our critters. It is also great for respiratory infections, etc. Do not overuse or a resistance will be built up. Older dogs can eat Deccox crumble and seem to like it, but don't use crumble on pups because it's hard to control the dosage. I use the crumble mostly for my poultry. You can buy the Deccox crumble at any feed store.
Liquid sulfadimethoxine (12.5% solution): http://www.allivet.com/p-2108-sulfadimet...CFWamPAod7mAAVA
Deccox crumble: http://www.jefferspet.com/deccox-m/camid/liv/cp/D8-D1/
That gallon bottle will last you FOREVER! Just 2cc/10 lbs first day, then 1cc/10lbs for the next 6 days. Dogs hate the taste of it and makes them froth at the mouth, but just put some in beef or chicken broth or mix in with canned food. They'll happily gobble it down!
Buying it this way is infinitely cheaper than Albon! First of all, it's 2-1/2 times more concentrated and you don't need a prescription. You would need to buy 158 (60 mL @ 5% suspension) bottles of Albon for the same amount of medicine in the gallon bottle of sulfadimethoxine. At $18/bottle of Albon, that's $2,850.00!!!! Buy the gallon jug, save a ton of money, be ready any time it strikes and sleep better at night.
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Re: Coccidiosis Treatment
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#4101199
03/05/13 05:18 PM
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CCBIRDDOGMAN
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Haven't had it in years but never spit any out. I am a sucker for happy endings and strapped cowboys.
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Re: Coccidiosis Treatment
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03/05/13 05:47 PM
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You're welcome. That breeder wrote back asking about cattle ivermectin and non-prescription cephalexin & amoxicillin. I provided info on those, too. Of course, the ivermectin has been talked to death on here, but not so much the antibiotics. If you are interested, I will PM you the info. $30-40/5000 mg is WAY cheaper than going to the vet. BUT... you have to apply wisdom and discretion to use properly and safely.
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Re: Coccidiosis Treatment
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03/05/13 06:05 PM
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Thanks. You gave me this information about 18 months ago when Deuce was having issues and it cured him.
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Re: Coccidiosis Treatment
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03/05/13 06:18 PM
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Thanks. You gave me this information about 18 months ago when Deuce was having issues and it cured him. AWESOME! I remember he'd been sick and I'd commented on your post, but I didn't remember the details. Glad it helped!
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Re: Coccidiosis Treatment
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03/05/13 07:54 PM
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I bought this and mixed my own a couple years ago to use opposed to getting Albon from the vet. I don't think I got the same results as I do with Albon. The last litter I had I didn't even mess with making it up and just went to the vet for Albon.
I mixed per the directions and used the correct dosages. I could be wrong but it just didn't appear I was getting results as quickly as I would see with Albon.
Do you think you get the same results?
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Re: Coccidiosis Treatment
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03/05/13 08:15 PM
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I bought this and mixed my own a couple years ago to use opposed to getting Albon from the vet. I don't think I got the same results as I do with Albon. The last litter I had I didn't even mess with making it up and just went to the vet for Albon.
I mixed per the directions and used the correct dosages. I could be wrong but it just didn't appear I was getting results as quickly as I would see with Albon.
Do you think you get the same results? You mixed per the directions? What/whose directions? I'm not sure I follow what directions you are talking about since the bottle has no directions for mixing any solutions for dogs. I can't speak for how you cut it and the implications of such, but I know how it works for me. After the first dose, which is double what is given for 6 subsequent days, I see an IMMEDIATE improvement in stools and the dog's overall demeanor. If signs of abdominal cramping exist, they decrease within 2 hours and at the worst, are gone within 36 hours. I still continue with the necessary dosage, even after symptoms are completely gone, however. Bottled sulfadimethoxine is the same exact medicine as Albon, only 2-1/2 times stronger without the pricey brand name & bottle. Indications should be the same if used properly.
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Re: Coccidiosis Treatment
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03/05/13 08:33 PM
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Sorry, I didnt read all of your original post and assumed you diluted the 12.5% solution.
I diluted it down to 5% and then just used the standard doses for 5% Albon.
I agree with the price savings, its crazy what they charge for Albon plus the exam fee on top of that.
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Re: Coccidiosis Treatment
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03/05/13 08:39 PM
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Aaaaahhhhh. OK, then that makes sense. Don't worry about dilution, just go by concentration and dosage. That means you will administer less volume, but the same amount of medication. Then it should work for you. Good luck. No sense wasting money.
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