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Lesser Prairie Chicken could be listed as an Endangered Species #4099493 03/04/13 11:48 PM
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Weekly Newsletter from Congressman Randy Neugebauer

Lesser Prairie-Chicken Update

Earlier this month, I led my colleagues in an effort to get the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service (FWS) Director Daniel Ashe to extend the public comment period before the potential listing of the Lesser Prairie-Chicken as a threatened species under the Endangered Species Act (ESA). If the lesser prairie-chicken is listed as threatened, it will have sweeping consequences for landowners in West Texas and neighboring states. Director Ashe agreed to re-open the comment period, but he declined to extend the final listing deadline. Iím disappointed the final deadline hasnít been extended because it will create a shortened review period that doesnít take into account the complexity of this proposal.

However, I am glad that landowners will have more time to comment on the range-wide conservation plan. I want to thank all of the West Texans who have been actively involved in this issue, and helped to make this happen. Farmers, ranchers, landowners, and energy producers have all come together to take part in this process, and because of your efforts, weíre making progress.

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Re: Lesser Prairie Chicken could be listed as an Endangered Species [Re: Dragonuv] #4099502 03/04/13 11:52 PM
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how would it have sweeping consequences for landowners?

curious about that


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Re: Lesser Prairie Chicken could be listed as an Endangered Species [Re: txtrophy85] #4099578 03/05/13 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
how would it have sweeping consequences for landowners?

curious about that


Me too


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Re: Lesser Prairie Chicken could be listed as an Endangered Species [Re: TXHOGSLAYER] #4099589 03/05/13 12:36 AM
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Could it be that they would place some restrictions on grazing, farming and land use in general? Remember what happened in Central Texas with the Black Capped Vireo and Golden Cheek Warbler when they were on the the list. You could not remove old stands of cedar at random it had to be an approved plan.


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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Could it be that they would place some restrictions on grazing, farming and land use in general? Remember what happened in Central Texas with the Black Capped Vireo and Golden Cheek Warbler when they were on the the list. You could not remove old stands of cedar at random it had to be an approved plan.


I've gotten a bunch of emails from oklahoma department of wildlife assuring that won't happen but we shall see


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Could it be that they would place some restrictions on grazing, farming and land use in general? Remember what happened in Central Texas with the Black Capped Vireo and Golden Cheek Warbler when they were on the the list. You could not remove old stands of cedar at random it had to be an approved plan.


I've gotten a bunch of emails from oklahoma department of wildlife assuring that won't happen but we shall see

We all know that can change in a heartbeat when the final ruling and wording are in place.


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Re: Lesser Prairie Chicken could be listed as an Endangered Species [Re: stxranchman] #4099765 03/05/13 01:50 AM
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Thanks ranchman, that gives a little bit of perspective. Would not like to see any type of land restrictions.


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Re: Lesser Prairie Chicken could be listed as an Endangered Species [Re: stxranchman] #4099948 03/05/13 02:44 AM
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Could it be that they would place some restrictions on grazing, farming and land use in general? Remember what happened in Central Texas with the Black Capped Vireo and Golden Cheek Warbler when they were on the the list. You could not remove old stands of cedar at random it had to be an approved plan.


Yep they protect the habitat too. I'm working with a client in LA where they are protecting habitat, where the endangered species has not been observed living there in over 50 yrs.
Can't use or develop his property as he wants.

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if you have an endangered species on your property, your options with the land go waaaaay down. Prairie chicken habitat means no development, no grazing, mowing and burning only at certain times, etc etc..


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Re: Lesser Prairie Chicken could be listed as an Endangered Species [Re: Southtexas36] #4100124 03/05/13 03:45 AM
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Could it be that they would place some restrictions on grazing, farming and land use in general? Remember what happened in Central Texas with the Black Capped Vireo and Golden Cheek Warbler when they were on the the list. You could not remove old stands of cedar at random it had to be an approved plan.


Yep they protect the habitat too. I'm working with a client in LA where they are protecting habitat, where the endangered species has not been observed living there in over 50 yrs.
Can't use or develop his property as he wants.
Ivory Billed Woodpecker?


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Re: Lesser Prairie Chicken could be listed as an Endangered Species [Re: activescrape] #4100250 03/05/13 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted By: stxranchman
Could it be that they would place some restrictions on grazing, farming and land use in general? Remember what happened in Central Texas with the Black Capped Vireo and Golden Cheek Warbler when they were on the the list. You could not remove old stands of cedar at random it had to be an approved plan.


Yep they protect the habitat too. I'm working with a client in LA where they are protecting habitat, where the endangered species has not been observed living there in over 50 yrs.
Can't use or develop his property as he wants.
Ivory Billed Woodpecker?


No, a little frog called a gopher frog

Re: Lesser Prairie Chicken could be listed as an Endangered Species [Re: txtrophy85] #4100461 03/05/13 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
how would it have sweeping consequences for landowners?

curious about that


The first mistake is thinking this has anything to do with the preservation of Lesser Prairie Chickens. It's another run at trying to stop drilling and exploration on private property, it didn't work with that damn lizard so this is their next shot. You got chickens well son ya can't drill their!


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how would it have sweeping consequences for landowners?

curious about that


The first mistake is thinking this has anything to do with the preservation of Lesser Prairie Chickens. It's another run at trying to stop drilling and exploration on private property, it didn't work with that damn lizard so this is their next shot. You got chickens well son ya can't drill their!


That is exactly right!

On the lighter side:

If they put the "Lesser Prairie Chicken" on the list and the population goes up would they then be called the "More or Lesser Prairie Chicken"?


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how would it have sweeping consequences for landowners?

curious about that


The first mistake is thinking this has anything to do with the preservation of Lesser Prairie Chickens. It's another run at trying to stop drilling and exploration on private property, it didn't work with that damn lizard so this is their next shot. You got chickens well son ya can't drill their!


That is exactly right!

On the lighter side:

If they put the "Lesser Prairie Chicken" on the list and the population goes up would they then be called the "More or Lesser Prairie Chicken"?


I've seen them a few times when I was chasing wells and going to Ruidoso, they get in the road in front of me and I can assure you they'll be at least one Lesser.


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Originally Posted By: txtrophy85
how would it have sweeping consequences for landowners?

curious about that


It is just something that Randy's yuppie staff told him to say.


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It could stop all types of hunting.

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