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Shooting hogs with a silencer #3878149 12/23/12 08:43 PM
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Just wondering what effect a silencer might have in hunting hogs from a blind. Would the other hogs tend to stay around for second or third shots if they were all done with a silenced weapon? If so, it might be worth the effort to get the permit for same.
Anyone doing it on a regular basis?

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i think it confuses them more and a lot depends on weather, seems quiter sometimes more than other times...it still makes noise, but not nearly as loud as an unsuppressed weapon, so don't react the same, but still run...but may allow for some extra shooting

I will be using a suppressor (correct term, since it doesn't 'silence') all this year except when using my 458 SOCOM and 450 Bushmaster

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The word silencer is really a misnomer, it doesn't silence anything. It does suppress the sound signature, but not anywhere close enough to where the hogs won't be running after you shoot. Even if you had a "Hollywood silencer" that was almost completely silent, just the smack of the bullet impact would send the rest running. Not to mention the one who got shot kicking around in the dirt.

I think the biggest benefit of hunting hogs with a suppressor is not ticking off the neighbors in the middle of the night.

Here's a video showing what you could expect. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS3wzBxMKxo

Re: Shooting hogs with a silencer [Re: cliffie] #3878692 12/24/12 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted By: cliffie
Just wondering what effect a silencer might have in hunting hogs from a blind. Would the other hogs tend to stay around for second or third shots if they were all done with a silenced weapon? If so, it might be worth the effort to get the permit for same.
Anyone doing it on a regular basis?


Do you have to get a permit to use a suppressor?

Re: Shooting hogs with a silencer [Re: Limit Extender] #3878762 12/24/12 12:29 AM
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Just having a suppressor will make it quieter yes, but if you have sub sonic ammo it will be very quiet



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Suppressor is correct but I am old school James Cagney movie type that calls them silencers. Watched a guy at the range 3 weeks ago with an Uzi (9mm) with "silencer" and sub-sonic ammo. It was only as noisy as the action cycling. That's what got me thinking.

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Popped another tonight (piggie) with my loads 240 grain lead, the pigs ran off at the slap of the bullet on their buddy. This was 80 yards. The rancher was hunting 300 yards away and didn't know I had one down until he pulled up on his ATV. My sub loads are not real quite they have to cycle the action, even shooting from a box it doesn't hurt your ears.


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Re: Shooting hogs with a silencer [Re: Limit Extender] #3879183 12/24/12 02:38 AM
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Originally Posted By: Lead Pipe
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Just wondering what effect a silencer might have in hunting hogs from a blind. Would the other hogs tend to stay around for second or third shots if they were all done with a silenced weapon? If so, it might be worth the effort to get the permit for same.
Anyone doing it on a regular basis?


Do you have to get a permit to use a suppressor?

No.

Re: Shooting hogs with a silencer [Re: TexFlip] #3879244 12/24/12 02:53 AM
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I have killed multiple pigs, out of the same group, at night, in an open wheatfield, using a single shot 300 BLK, suppressed, running sub sonic ammo. My gun is sighted in at 50 yards with the subs, and anything past 150 yards is near impossible on a moving target. When shooting sub sonic rounds suppressed, through a bolt gun or single shot there isnt much noise at all. From my experience, the sound of the action cycleing on an AR will run them off, while a hammer falling on a single shot wont. The pigs Ive gotten into with my "quiet gun" never ran more the 30 or 40 yards after killing the first one.

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Quote:
Do you have to get a permit to use a suppressor?


To use it, no. To own it, yes.

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Originally Posted By: Yellowhammer
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Do you have to get a permit to use a suppressor?


To use it, no. To own it, yes.

What permit is that?

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Permit, stamp, paperwork or whatever you prefer to call it.

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Once you have decided on the suppressor you want to purchase go to class 3 dealer in your state to begin the tax stamp transfer process. Your Class III dealer can walk you through this process. There is a 200.00 transfer tax required by the ATFE for Class III transfers to private individuals. During the tax stamp transfer process, you’ll need to get finger printed, have passport photos taken and get the Chief Local Law Enforcement Officer’s signature on the ATFE Form 4. These items are not required if the silencer is being transferred to a corporation or a trust. This process is called a Form 4 transfer. This process generally takes 4 to 6 months. Once your suppressor is approved for transfer your dealer will receive that paperwork and inform you suppressor is ready to be transferred. When you receive your new suppressor and use it you will wonder why you ever shot without one.


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Thanks bigtex46!

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I guess a lot of it would have to depend on how skittish your local hog population is.

I have a suppressed .44 bolt action shooting subsonic loads and I'd put the sound level about in the middle between a pellet gun and a .22.


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I have used them on hogs both day and night and they always run. Something about the loud slap and their buddy screaming seems to scare them! :-) They are a real party and if you have a good load you can make them hollywood quiet with great accuracy but only on a bolt gun. 300 Whisper and Black Out require a little extra powder in order to cycle the bolt. Very much worth having though! If you get one go big, meaning if you are getting one for a 223, go with a 30 Cal. you will end up wanting to use it on something bigger because the best you can do with a 223 is make it sound like a 22. with a 30 cal, you can use them on any 30 cal round and below. I have the AAC 7.62 SD and love it. Only wished I had spent the extra money to get a magnum rated so that I could enjoy shooting my 300 WM. It is just too loud now and I am spoiled.


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I have a suppressor on my AR-15 and I shoot hogs with it all the time. However, they still run off after the first shot for reasons stated above. The benefit of using a suppressor is that hogs in the surrounding areas won't be able to hear the shot and thus you may be able to get more shots on other local hogs.

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Originally Posted By: Screwdriver
The word silencer is really a misnomer, it doesn't silence anything. It does suppress the sound signature, but not anywhere close enough to where the hogs won't be running after you shoot. Even if you had a "Hollywood silencer" that was almost completely silent, just the smack of the bullet impact would send the rest running. Not to mention the one who got shot kicking around in the dirt.

I think the biggest benefit of hunting hogs with a suppressor is not ticking off the neighbors in the middle of the night.

Here's a video showing what you could expect. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS3wzBxMKxo


To me, misnomer or not, the word "silencer" is what appeared on Hiram Maxim's patent. "Suppressor" better describes what it actually does, but either is equally correct.

In any event, my experience has been that they run when you kill one at night whether it's with a bow, a suppressed rifle with subsonics or an overbore magnum with a target crown.

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. . . Even if you had a "Hollywood silencer" that was almost completely silent, just the smack of the bullet impact would send the rest running. Not to mention the one who got shot SCREAMING & kicking around in the dirt. . . . .



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The word silencer is really a misnomer, it doesn't silence anything. It does suppress the sound signature, but not anywhere close enough to where the hogs won't be running after you shoot. Even if you had a "Hollywood silencer" that was almost completely silent, just the smack of the bullet impact would send the rest running. Not to mention the one who got shot kicking around in the dirt.

I think the biggest benefit of hunting hogs with a suppressor is not ticking off the neighbors in the middle of the night.

Here's a video showing what you could expect. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS3wzBxMKxo


To me, misnomer or not, the word "silencer" is what appeared on Hiram Maxim's patent. "Suppressor" better describes what it actually does, but either is equally correct.

In any event, my experience has been that they run when you kill one at night whether it's with a bow, a suppressed rifle with subsonics or an overbore magnum with a target crown.


The industry may call them suppressors, but the ATF still uses 'silencer' as the legal definition.

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http://www.google.com/patents?id=dWJ-AAA...p;q&f=false

Maxim's "Silent" firearm patent ^^^

Legal descriptions...
14.4 Silencers:
This subclass is indented under subclass 14.05. Subject matter which tends to reduce the noise caused by the firing of a gun.
http://www.uspto.gov/web/patents/classification/uspc089/defs089.htm#C089S014400

223 Silencer for firearms:
This subclass is indented under subclass 212. Subject matter comprising silencer muffler which attenuates explosive sounds generated by small firearms and which have a straight-through passage for the projectile and silencing chambers for the explosive exhaust.

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I would not worry about whether the hogs objected to the noise.


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