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Trained Dog or Semi Auto? #2912832 01/09/12 04:55 PM
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Which would you pick?

A Benelli Vinci or a Started/Trained Lab?

I have the dinero for a Vinci and suddenly wonder if i can get a decent dog for the same price? Thoughts//Suggestions?


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If you already have a shotgun that functions then def a dog. Started dogs will vary, depending on the level they are trained to. Will generally range from 1,000 on up and the 1,000 will get not get you much of a started dog, just the general priciples of retrieving.



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Dog.

However, the price you'll pay for the dog isn't the only cost you'll incur. You'll need to invest more money and more importantly IMO, more time.

So, don't get a dog if you don't have the time for it...shotguns do better in storage than dogs do wink


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Shotgun; Train the dog on your own; make him your own, not a trained robot.


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Dog. I love my shotguns but not nearly as much as my retriever!




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Dog but train your own have that bond with him/her that comes from training it yourself



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Re: Trained Dog or Semi Auto? [Re: TreeBass] #2912907 01/09/12 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted By: TreeBass
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Shopping with your husband is like hunting with the game warden.
Experience is what you get, when you didn't get what you wanted.


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Can the vinci fetch birds that fall places you would never be able to get to?


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I would enjoy hunting with a pump and my dog more than with a semi-auto and no dog.



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Originally Posted By: 1000YRDSTARE
Shotgun; Train the dog on your own; make him your own, not a trained robot.


I trained my dogs on my own and they are "trained robots." confused2

I say dog. However, prices/abilities will vary. Some straight out of the womb pups will cost you well over what a new shotgun will.



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Dog... I have a Maxus and it won't fetch for me no matter how many times I whistle at it.



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A dog!!! I definately would never hunt without my dog... He literally is my best hunting buddy.. Training your dog and watching him become an excellent retriever is what its all about..





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Shotgun; Train the dog on your own; make him your own, not a trained robot.


I trained my dogs on my own and they are "trained robots." confused2

I say dog. However, prices/abilities will vary. Some straight out of the womb pups will cost you well over
what a new shotgun will.


What I was meaning is spend on the gun; get a dog with drive in his background; dont spend money on training; do it yourself; gain the experience with the dog; work together; build a bond; take the dog every time you can.

I had a Brittany that I trained at 19 hunting pheasants in SD and grouse in Mn at our farm; Rip would point; flush; fetch. When he fetched there was no sitting at my feet waiting to take the bird from him; would drop it at the feet of anyone hunting and go back to finding birds.

On the same token my buddy sent his lab off to training for two months; said it came home a totally different dog and said it wasn't his dog but more of a tool. The dog did great hunting but he sold it because it wasn't the same dog after training.

I lost Rip 9 years ago to a sow black bear and her two cubs hunting grouse. He mistaked the cubs for black labs. Calvin has the
drive and is learning very quick,
First lab and I am very impressed with his water retrieves
however there will not be another Rip.


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Go with the dog. You'll get more pleasure from it than 10 Vincis. If you get a Started dog you can build repoirte and the trainer you buy it from will likely let you train with him if you are willing to work as a bird boy for his other dogs. You'll learn how to continue training that way. Been there, done that, got the ribbons to prove it ....


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Good dogs can be had,great dogs are rare, and shotguns are a dime a dozen.




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Go to the local lab rescue a find a dog you are looking for..you will be real surprised what some people don't want.


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Put it this way, if you dont really need a dog then get a gun.

If you need a dog, then get a dog.

Pretty simple.


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