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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/13/11 12:37 AM
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Must be your trigger group. Auto maybe?
LOL J/K nice kills
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/13/11 12:54 AM
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I think bigger is better within reason.. just as I prefer a women.
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/13/11 03:36 AM
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Djones, we hunt with oasys brand. Jagrpro stuff has nothing on this. And yes, if you cant hit them in the ear then its time to hang it up. All joking aside that is what we do 6 months out of the year for income. We use ar10''s and 223's fully suppressed. If your goal is to kill as many as possible, get about 75 yards out. Use a full supressor, and get ready! About 50% of the time they will come straight at ya. The supressor's really confuse them. The most kills in one group is 12, but that is with 3 full set ups locked in with a count down. And no we dont aim for the ear when they are running at you. The best is to shoot the alpha male and female first, the babys just run in circles. If you find yourself near Austin I will take you out for an adverture. Happy hunting. If you want pics consult my facebook page!
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/13/11 03:26 PM
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Let's see...where were we? Oh yea. .. I’m going hunting now. I may not get anything, but I’ll meet you all back here tomorrow and we'll compare pics with what y'all kill in the next 24 hours. Maybe the experts can correct my mistakes. You 223ers called down the thunder, well you got it. 13 hogs last night. Not my best, but not a bad night. Whew! After all the smack I laid down yesterday it would be just my luck to get shut out . I was pretty optimistic though because I had several new places to hunt. I bet I saw over 150 hogs last night. If the wind had cooperated I would have run out of ammo, and I took 5 boxes. matt - i want to hunt with you next time! FIREDAVIS - A suppressor makes your gun look as good as a 308 so you're grandfathered in. jram - I shouldn't have been so quick to rule out texas hunters. I should have said Rod was the best hog hunter I know of. I never heard of oasys, but I'm sorta new at this . Whatever it is, I'd love to check it out, but I doubt I'll be in Austin anytime soon. I'll check out your pics. Probably wouldn't hurt to have a little crow with my hogs .
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/13/11 03:34 PM
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How many hogs did you hit that ran away to die?
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/13/11 03:51 PM
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I know I had four butt shots that connected and suspect two to four other hits on parts unknown. They either ran off, or I couldn't find them in the cotton. Small ones can be hard to find sometimes.
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/13/11 07:19 PM
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My setup is pretty sweet! I havent picked up any other rifle since I got it all rigged up the way I wanted it. I will be purchasing an AR10 to put my suppressor on but just because I have a firearm problem. I will be hunting for the next 4 days but with a bow in hand, but my pee shooter .223 will be in the truck just incase I drive up on some swine.
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/13/11 07:44 PM
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I shot a pig in the head with my 3006 one time that flopped like that. I walked out drove back to camp came back with a little trailer and guess what he was still doing. I think with a 223 its all about shot placement.
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/13/11 08:01 PM
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It is all about shot placement. I have a buddy who harps on me about getting a "real caliber" with which to hunt hogs after I had a couple of poorly placed shots where the hogs ran. I was more inexperienced then and didn't choose my shots wisely. Mind you, he hit a feeder leg with a 12 ga. slug that completely missed his hog and last week missed with a .45-70. He didn't like it much when I asked him if a 12 ga. leg shot on a feeder was a killing shot or when I asked how much pig will a real caliber stop when it doesn't hit the pig. Poorly aimed shots are poorly aimed shots regardless of caliber. Your options for .223 are maybe fewer than for a bigger caliber, but if you know that going into your hunt and shoot accordingly, there should be no problems.
I mostly shoot .223 because my night vision won't work on my .45-70.
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/13/11 09:44 PM
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No doubt it will do the trick. Just makes the shot less forgiving then using a larger round.
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/13/11 09:49 PM
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No doubt it will do the trick. Just makes the shot less forgiving then using a larger round. This answer is a double edged sword. Some take it to mean they don't have to make an accurate shot if they shoot enough gun. Just as bad as not enough gun.
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/14/11 12:48 AM
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making a HOG suffer C'mon last year "THEY" killed dozen's of hogs and nilgai overhere with the helicopter and wernt picked up talk about making an animal suffer al'right.
i say for a one shot one kill situation its a great shot....u dont need a big twinker to get a female prego amigos!! of course its a want!!! make them suffer huh!!!
DJONES u the man amigo!!!
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/14/11 02:25 AM
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djones, well you one up'd me, my best night was 12, but way smaller than those! We get big ones here, but not in groups of 150. Nice work. With pics to prove your street cred you wont need any crow tonight bud!
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/14/11 02:51 AM
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I'm quite sure that given the opportunity to hunt open fields like you do up in North TX, I could beat 12 in a night no problem within a few time out. I've gotten 6 out a group of 10 in an opening no wider than 75 yards and with high grass every where. I just keep shooting and they keep dropping. A .223 with some 75 grain BTHP kills them. I shot one on Tuesday night at 270 - 280 yards free hand and dropped it. That was right after one of my hunting clients dropped and little 50 pounder. Then last Saturday I shot one at 300-310 yards down a pipeline sitting indian style. Got to love suppressors because you know when you hit them. I had to do all the rangefinding in the morning, I actually didn't think they were that far out until the next morning. Killing hogs is easy once you get the approximate lead down, then again I don't care where they get hit. If they get hit in the rear so be it, there will be another bullet to follow just seconds later.
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/15/11 12:50 PM
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Fork, There's a pretty big difference between killing 6 hogs and 12, unless their hooves are tied and they're lined up before a firing squad. In the field, the probability of each subsequent kill can best be modeled using regression analysis. I believe you'll find as time and distance increase, the success curve decreases inverse logarithmically. Your best chance of getting in a pic with 12 hogs is to go hunting with me!
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/16/11 01:47 AM
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Fork, There's a pretty big difference between killing 6 hogs and 12, unless their hooves are tied and they're lined up before a firing squad. In the field, the probability of each subsequent kill can best be modeled using regression analysis. I believe you'll find as time and distance increase, the success curve decreases inverse logarithmically. Your best chance of getting in a pic with 12 hogs is to go hunting with me! Lol, yeah I might have to take you up on the hunt with you. If I came up there and we did a competition I would leave you in the dust. There is a big difference in regional area you hunt. Those open areas are much easier and forgiving to hunt then these East TX pipelines.
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/16/11 08:22 PM
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FYI Killed two more with the 223 today
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/16/11 08:56 PM
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Fork, A lot of guys come out to the South Plains thinking they're going to shoot a round of golf in the 70s on our 'weak, wide open fairways' with an extra 50 yard roll on the hard pan. I tell them not to expect to make up for errant tee shots on the green. And while you were posting, I went out and shot another 10 hogs LINK FireD - the rules are "no pic, no pig". I don't want you to get banned!
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/17/11 12:35 AM
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I will mail you their testicals and hearts ASAP!!!
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/17/11 01:22 AM
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FireD - Not necessary. I've just been informed that you are now grandfathered from the "no pic, no pig" rule also
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/17/11 12:27 PM
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Fork, A lot of guys come out to the South Plains thinking they're going to shoot a round of golf in the 70s on our 'weak, wide open fairways' with an extra 50 yard roll on the hard pan. I tell them not to expect to make up for errant tee shots on the green. And while you were posting, I went out and shot another 10 hogs LINK FireD - the rules are "no pic, no pig". I don't want you to get banned! Exactly my point, it is easy to get them there in those open areas. Over here, not quite the case.
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/17/11 01:22 PM
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Wide open doesn't mean they're coveyed up or lined up left to right. They could be stretched out from 100 yards to a mile away. 5 seconds after the first shot they're over 200 yards away. All you see are aholes and elbows running away from you at 30 mph. In 10 seconds they're spots on the horizon. Now if they charge, that's a different story.
Hogs in my area know the deal. They aren't some dude ranch pets. They are always on the move, adapting to hunting pressure. When they come out to feed, their bags are packed because they know home is where ever I send them... the next county if they're lucky.
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/17/11 02:45 PM
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More than enough, we killed 6 hogs with 223's this weekend!!
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/17/11 07:57 PM
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i may be young but im a master i use a 12 gauge no chance for a charge there i do want an ar-15 in 7.62x39 or .223.
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Re: Is a 223 enough to kill a hog?
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10/17/11 09:21 PM
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...So if you were faced with taking a 250 yard shot on a hog you guesstimate to weigh 300 lbs.
Would you take the shot with an AR-15 with conventional 55 gr ammo?
I'd much prefer a standard bullet to be 150grs or more...
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