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What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 12:41 AM
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fencewire
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This is something that has been discussed on our lease before, and it never fails that a "cull" to one isn't a cull to another. How do you handle culls on your lease? Our problem is that we are in a one buck county, so the culls are for guests that must be accompanied by a lease member.
We run cameras year round and have about 8 of them up, I would think it would be pretty easy to develop a "hit" list complete with photos and let everyone submit "candidates" for the hit list.
A little about our genetics (deer, not human), we RARELY have anything more than an 8. We get an occasional 9, and those are rather rare. Now supposedly, a guy on the next ranch over killed a 14 last year, (pics or it didn't happen) but I haven't seen anything over a 9 or a weak 10 by a split g3 and a sticker off the g2.
Any other ideas? What do you consider a cull? WHat about spikes, 1.5 YO spikes, let'em walk or add them to the "list".
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Re: What is considered a cull...
[Re: fencewire]
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10/13/11 12:43 AM
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BuckRage
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thats a loaded question. depends on where your at and what your land can hold. on my lease every single buck would be a cull compared to alot of other leases. if your rarely seeing 8's then sounds like your deer are or were being taken out too young. give them time to mature and you will have much better results but the 2-3 years in between will suck.
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Re: What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 12:45 AM
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stxranchman
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This one is going to get good.
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 12:56 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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First pm stxranchman then pm Amos
Take those two plans compare and go from there
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Re: What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 12:58 AM
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stxranchman
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Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 01:06 AM
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Re: What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 01:09 AM
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oh, we have plenty of 8's.... 8's out the wazoo...
very few big 8's, a few 7's, a couple of 6's, some 1.5 forks and a few 1.5 spikes.
Last year, I don't remember seeing 1 single spike, even after plowing through probably at least 8K pictures... and I have found 3 different spikes just going though the last months pictures.
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Re: What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 01:10 AM
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Re: What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 01:11 AM
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Re: What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 01:17 AM
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a "cull" at Bubba's Watering Hole at 1AM is not the same as a "cull" at the Playboy Mansion. Now where did I put that popcorn?
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Re: What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 01:20 AM
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fencewire
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something tells me this has been discussed before ad nauseam, and i perhaps have poked a hornet's nest with a stick...
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Re: What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 01:20 AM
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a "cull" at Bubba's Watering Hole at 1AM is not the same as a "cull" at the Playboy Mansion. Now where did I put that popcorn? about the best analogy i've heard!
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Re: What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 01:23 AM
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kyle1974
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a "cull" at Bubba's Watering Hole at 1AM is not the same as a "cull" at the Playboy Mansion. talk about a canned hunt.
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Re: What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 01:26 AM
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fencewire
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high fence? Only difference is the guys there are hunting the does... well, most of them, it is california afterall...
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Re: What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 02:20 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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a "cull" at Bubba's Watering Hole at 1AM is not the same as a "cull" at the Playboy Mansion. talk about a canned hunt. Nope just better gym
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Re: What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 02:26 AM
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a "cull" at Bubba's Watering Hole at 1AM is not the same as a "cull" at the Playboy Mansion. talk about a canned hunt. Nope just better gym I disagree BOBO. Better genetics and a much better cull management program!!
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Re: What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 02:27 AM
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First pm stxranchman then pm Amos
Take those two plans compare and go from there
I tried that and it doesn't end well for you...trust me. Throw Tye and a few others in the mix and it really gets interesting. BOBO doesn't even stick around for moral support. He just pokes everyone with a stick to watch em squirm
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Re: What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 02:40 AM
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BOBO the Clown
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Lol!!!!!!
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Re: What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 04:21 AM
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Justin T
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A mature buck that doesn't meet your definition of a trophy.
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Re: What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 04:58 AM
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Sorry you didn't get the response you were looking for. We have had a few threads that went down this road and some took turns that went alot deeper into it than the question you asked. A cull IMO is a buck that is determined to show traits that are not wanted within your herd. Some examples are a buck with no browtines, a 3.5 year old deer with seven points or less, a mature 8 point with large G2's and short 3's, spikes, etc. The list will be different for areas, ranches, and for different people. Some people separate culls from management bucks. To some, management bucks are mature deer that will never amount to anything. Basically, they show antler traits like short tines, small frames, no mass, etc. Many people have a hard time differentiating between a cull and management buck and many definitions of the two are different depending on who you ask. But, they serve the same purpose...to improve the aesthetics of antlers within your herd. The question is "will it make a difference?" Now that is where things really get interesting
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Re: What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 05:01 AM
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can someone post a few diffrent pictures of a cull so everyone can get a good idea how some look
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Re: What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 05:04 AM
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can someone post a few diffrent pictures of a cull so everyone can get a good idea how some look
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Re: What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 05:10 AM
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Our problem is our culls have screwed up, misformed racks with 1-2 points on each side and the rack goes up 14-16 inches but are only 8-10 inches wide. We call them Ole Lady bucks, cant live with them, can't kill them.
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Re: What is considered a cull...
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10/13/11 05:31 AM
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