Forums46
Topics537,992
Posts9,731,505
Members87,053
|
Most Online25,604 Feb 12th, 2024
|
|
|
4 inch spike rule?
#2628412
10/03/11 01:23 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 613
bc_guidry
OP
Tracker
|
OP
Tracker
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 613 |
I have a buddy who was ticketed by a gamewarden for shooting a spike with less than 4 inches of horn length. Is there any validity to this? I've never heard of this "rule."
Any feedback will help.
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: bc_guidry]
#2628420
10/03/11 01:25 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 19,296
pokerj2
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 19,296 |
President of American Entitlements LLC Health insurance agency focusing in all ages from ACA plans all the way through Medicare. Office is based in Wylie, TX We have local agents in both Texas and Louisiana 469-814-0289
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: pokerj2]
#2628425
10/03/11 01:29 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,757
Rob Lay
Pro Tracker
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,757 |
Never heard that in Texas, spike is a spike in Texas, which it shouldn't be. Spikes grow up to be big Deer too.
In Oklahoma spike has to be at least 3" or something like that to count as buck.
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: Rob Lay]
#2628451
10/03/11 01:39 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,501
Team By-God
Pro Tracker
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 1,501 |
thought to be legal it just said it had to have at least one unforked antler... no mention of length.
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: Team By-God]
#2628456
10/03/11 01:41 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,738
passthru
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 11,738 |
Did he put a buck or antlerless tag on it?
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: JJSeabrook]
#2628502
10/03/11 01:56 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 22,259
Texas Dan
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 22,259 |
If your buddy was in fact given a citation for this, the name of the officer who wrote it should be reported to the TPWD office in Austin.
The only length requirement relating to spikes is the length of any points that would make it a "branched" antler. If the point is one-inch or more, as measured from the edge of the main beam (rather than the centerline of the main beam), it is considered a branched antler and not a spike.
"Some people will never like you because your spirit irritates their demons."
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: passthru]
#2628519
10/03/11 02:03 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 613
bc_guidry
OP
Tracker
|
OP
Tracker
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 613 |
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: bc_guidry]
#2628551
10/03/11 02:20 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 613
bc_guidry
OP
Tracker
|
OP
Tracker
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 613 |
I'm sorry was just told there was no citation given, the warden took the bow and the deer. The warden said it was an illegal deer because it wasn't 4 inches in length and also wanted to test to make sure it was shot with an arrow...
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: bc_guidry]
#2628563
10/03/11 02:25 PM
|
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,216
kyle1974
Veteran Tracker
|
Veteran Tracker
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,216 |
I'm sorry was just told there was no citation given, the warden took the bow and the deer. The warden said it was an illegal deer because it wasn't 4 inches in length and also wanted to test to make sure it was shot with an arrow... hmm... the plot thickens. there is no rule for length of a spike. Sounds like he doesn't think it was shot with a bow, and the 4" deal was a comment made that your buddy is hanging on to
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: kyle1974]
#2628580
10/03/11 02:31 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,757
Rob Lay
Pro Tracker
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 1,757 |
this should be a straight forward game law the warden should know, however I have found with wardens on both fish & game that they have to know all rules for all game and its overwhelming. especially if they are new, sometimes an experienced hunter that specializes in one game knows more than the warden and nicely pulling out the rules and pointing things out goes a long way. kinda like CHL holders know CHL laws better than many LEO.
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: Rob Lay]
#2628587
10/03/11 02:36 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28,032
Navasot
Hollywood
|
Hollywood
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28,032 |
Man sounds like your buddy got jacked...you sure this guy was even a Game Warden??? there is no such law and surely there is no warden who thinks there is...did he write a warning??? Or did he get a name???I wouldnt be suprised if you called in his name and he didnt even exist
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: Navasot]
#2628601
10/03/11 02:40 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,615
MELackey
Pro Tracker
|
Pro Tracker
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,615 |
is your buddy certain it was a game warden?
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: Rob Lay]
#2628614
10/03/11 02:45 PM
|
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 361
Texas Fight
Bird Dog
|
Bird Dog
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 361 |
Only length rule I remember is the spike has to be atleast 3/4" or is not a spike but antlerless. As long as it is not branched, its a spike.
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: Navasot]
#2628735
10/03/11 03:26 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 22,259
Texas Dan
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 22,259 |
Man sounds like your buddy got jacked...you sure this guy was even a Game Warden??? there is no such law and surely there is no warden who thinks there is...did he write a warning??? Or did he get a name???I wouldnt be suprised if you called in his name and he didnt even exist I smell this too.
"Some people will never like you because your spirit irritates their demons."
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: Texas Dan]
#2629052
10/03/11 05:07 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 6,407
WileyCoyote
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 6,407 |
...and why I ALWAYS KEEP A COPY OF THE TP&W GAME LAWS HANDBOOK ON ME WHENEVER I AM IN THE FIELD OR HAVE POSSESION OF FRESH KILLED GAME EVEN IN THE TRUCK... it keeps it more simple that way if I have to call the 24/7 TP&W Hotline ...I also have a 24/7 access card to to talk to an attorney from anywhere in the US or Canada on me at all times as well...the other side of that card is a printed notice that informs a Law Enforcement Officer that I am asking to be allowed to call my attorney concerning my detainment or interrogation.
Somewhere on the ticket the Issueing Officer will have to sign and state his badge number...
I call BS on this deal ....as it is being reported.
WE NEED TO KNOW FOR DEAD SOLID AND FOR CERTAIN WHAT COUNTY THIS HAPPENED IN...and who the Issuing Officer was by agency, full name and Badge Number. JMHO Ron
It is TIME for Term Limits, cause Politicians are like childrens diapers and for the same reasons...Robin Williams "These are the times that try men's soul's"...Thomas Paine
"Those who fail to learn from History are doomed to repeat it" ....Santayana
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: WileyCoyote]
#2629111
10/03/11 05:30 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 8,641
DiverTexas
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 8,641 |
Sounds like an imposter got his bow and deer. http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/regulations/fish_hunt/hunt/deer/"buck deer" is a deer with a hardened antler protruding through the skin. A "spike buck deer" is a BUCK with no antler having more than one point. ALL OTHER DEER ARE ANTLERLESS DEER. A spike buck must be tagged with a buck deer tag from the hunter's hunting license or applicable permit.
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: DiverTexas]
#2629131
10/03/11 05:39 PM
|
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 19,498
Erathkid
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Jan 2011
Posts: 19,498 |
Yep,sounds like it.We need more details.
Life is too short, as is. Don't chance it. Don't text and drive.
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: DiverTexas]
#2629142
10/03/11 05:44 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 11,124
LandPirate
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Aug 2009
Posts: 11,124 |
I suspect that your buddy has his facts crossed. GW's don't take deer and weapons without a legitimate reason. The 4" spike story doesn't sound legitimate to me all since there is no law requiring it.
Maybe there's something that your buddy isn't telling you. Or maybe he honestly misunderstood what the GW told him. Easy way to clear the air is for your buddy to call the GW or his supervisor and inquire.
Mike Buda, Tx Hunt near Freer
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: kyle1974]
#2629151
10/03/11 05:46 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,309
Stump_jumper
Veteran Tracker
|
Veteran Tracker
Joined: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,309 |
Heck pretty soon we are going to have to carry a tape measure and ask the deer to stop for a minute while we measure the antlers.
2017 Tundra 5.7 CM 4x4 2006 Champion 2200 Bay Boat
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: Stump_jumper]
#2629185
10/03/11 06:02 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28,032
Navasot
Hollywood
|
Hollywood
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 28,032 |
They sure dont take any hunters guns or equipment without writing a citation and explain the info that the hunter has a right to know on whats gona happen with the case and also what will happen to his stuff and how he can get it back...if he is allowed to get it back...
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: Navasot]
#2629290
10/03/11 06:47 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 60,296
stxranchman
Obie Juan Kenobi
|
Obie Juan Kenobi
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 60,296 |
Sounds like some important details have been left out of this story.
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: Navasot]
#2629291
10/03/11 06:47 PM
|
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 19,100
dgilbert
THF Celebrity
|
THF Celebrity
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 19,100 |
I think there might be more to the story, It seems there are other facts left out, story already has changed.
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: dgilbert]
#2629420
10/03/11 07:32 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 5,714
TAT
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 5,714 |
im willing to bet something wrong was done and the buddy doesnt want to own up to it.i hope not though. if it was an imposture game warden this guy had some big ones for sure! to the OP do you have anymore of the story?
It's not how you fall, It's how you get up.
|
|
|
Re: 4 inch spike rule?
[Re: dgilbert]
#2629427
10/03/11 07:34 PM
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 5,714
TAT
THF Trophy Hunter
|
THF Trophy Hunter
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 5,714 |
I think there might be more to the story, It seems there are other facts left out, story already has changed. ding,ding,ding! i think we have a winner!!!
It's not how you fall, It's how you get up.
|
|
|
Moderated by bigbob_ftw, CCBIRDDOGMAN, Chickenman, Derek, DeRico, Duck_Hunter, hetman, jeh7mmmag, JustWingem, kmon11, kry226, kwrhuntinglab, Payne, pertnear, rifleman, sig226fan (Rguns.com), Superduty, TreeBass, txcornhusker
|