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Would you take a close distance shot that ruins the trophy, or let him go? #2554675 09/02/11 07:02 PM
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Would you take a close distance shot that ruins the trophy, or let him go? In other words, a big buck is close, say under 75y, but your only shot is in the head because of environmental factors. Would you let him go or take him?

I want to say I'd let him go, but I have not been in that situation. Assume your like me and would rather eat a medium sized doe anyway lol; or say your freezer is full.



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I think it's unethical to take head shots at deer, but that's a whole different story. But I'd take my chances at a neck shot if I think I could get a clean kill. To me, it's about respecting the animal, nature, and ethics and morals of hunting more than taking the "trohpy". I sure do get excited when I've killed my big bucks, but that's not why I hunt. It's all of the other things that you're able to experience during the process.

If that makes sense.


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I would shoot it in the face.... let the taxi do his work, and if need be, put a different cape on him.


If it is a trophy, and I want it, I will take the first kill zone my cross hairs land on.



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I would not take that shot because of the risks involved. That would allow me to continue to hunt that buck for the rest of the season.




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Re: Would you take a close distance shot that ruins the trophy, or let him go? [Re: stxranchman] #2554920 09/02/11 08:52 PM
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I don't take chancey shots on game animals. I'm very confident in my abilities but I also realize that things go wrong sometimes. A deer's head is always moving. What if he moved as the trigger breaks and you blow his jaw off. I'd feel pretty carppy about it. Not worth it.


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At 75 yards or even 50 yards, if the only true target available was his head...as in head only, no neck, I wouldn't take it. If I had full neck and above, I'd take it. A trophy buck would have my adrenaline pumping and I'd hate to wound it because I twitched or he moved.. But last year, I had two clean head shots on hogs at 150 yards. I guess I'm not as excited about shooting them.


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I have never been in the situation where all I had was a Head shot. I wouldnt shoot a buck in the head. But I have shot alot of animals in the neck or as close to the head as I can get in the neck and dont mind at all.

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Originally Posted By: Mud Shark
I think it's unethical to take head shots at deer, but that's a whole different story. But I'd take my chances at a neck shot if I think I could get a clean kill. To me, it's about respecting the animal, nature, and ethics and morals of hunting more than taking the "trohpy". I sure do get excited when I've killed my big bucks, but that's not why I hunt. It's all of the other things that you're able to experience during the process.

If that makes sense.


That's my opinion as well.

Like turkey beards, I only keep the antlers of any buck that I take for the memory of having done so.



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About the only thing I shoot now are spike or 2 year old axis. either the head or high in the neck.A lot depends on if you think you will ever get another chance at that deer or not. You are the one that has to make the decision. Do what you think is right and the heck with what others say.


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All I can say is I've never been in that situation with any big game animal. In general, you either have a shot... or you don't. More often than not, I've been able to wait for an acceptable shot or work my way into position to take one.

What you define as an acceptable shot is up to you.


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Originally Posted By: LandPirate
I don't take chancey shots on game animals. I'm very confident in my abilities but I also realize that things go wrong sometimes. A deer's head is always moving. What if he moved as the trigger breaks and you blow his jaw off. I'd feel pretty carppy about it. Not worth it.


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I agree with just about everyone, thanks for your answers.

I have one more question:
with a well constructed .308 bullet, would a shot just below the tail (into his exit if you will) pass all the way through to vitals at under 150y?

Bullet's I'm considering are:
165gr Nosler Green Tip *have
150gr Speer Soft Point Boat Tail *have
165gr Barnes TSX Boat Tail *would have to buy
155gr Berger Hunting VLD *would have to buy



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Re: Would you take a close distance shot that ruins the trophy, or let him go? [Re: Gravytrain] #2555298 09/03/11 12:47 AM
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More importantly... why would you take a shot "in the animal's exit"? This seems like an unethical shot as well. Just my honest opinion.

Be more specific on the round... .308 caliber could mean many different things. Eg .308, 300 win mag, 300 RUM. A 300 win mag or a 300 RUM with a TSX would definitely go through.



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I have no qualms shooting a spike or doe in the head, if you are trophy hunting then you probably wouldn't want to a nice buck.

However, the bottom line on this isnt if you are for or against headshots, but rather what is behind the deer, if all you can see is the head then you probably shouldn't take the shot bc you don't know what is behind the animal.


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Originally Posted By: Gravytrain
... would a shot just below the tail (into his exit if you will) pass all the way through to vitals at under 150...

"Texas heart-shot" ?

Only thing I shoot in the head is a rattler...


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I want the cleanest, quickest kill I can get. I wouldn't take a head or butt shot on a deer. Necks and heart/lung shots on game. Hogs and other vermin will get it wherever I can get a shot on em.

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absolutely no head shots (unless its a coon or pig smile )


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I would shoot it. I dont get "buck fever" like a lot of folks do. I hunt meat, not horns. No matter how much you boil them, they dont get tender, lol. I'll say this, once you "hunt" people, animals dont bring the thrill they used to.


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Originally Posted By: Spent Brass
I want the cleanest, quickest kill I can get. I wouldn't take a head or butt shot on a deer. Necks and heart/lung shots on game. Hogs and other vermin will get it wherever I can get a shot on em.

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I personally wouldn't take a head shot on a deer but I don't care what anybody else does. If you like the shot then take it.



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Originally Posted By: Gravytrain
I agree with just about everyone, thanks for your answers.

I have one more question:
with a well constructed .308 bullet, would a shot just below the tail (into his exit if you will) pass all the way through to vitals at under 150y?

Bullet's I'm considering are:
165gr Nosler Green Tip *have
150gr Speer Soft Point Boat Tail *have
165gr Barnes TSX Boat Tail *would have to buy
155gr Berger Hunting VLD *would have to buy


Man I would never take that shot. If you shoot the exit you'll hit all sorts of things you don't want to have mixed in with the meat you should be eating... sick barf


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Why is it unethical to shoot a deer in the head? What's the difference between wounding him in the head and wounding him somewhere else? I've never shot one in the head because I've never been in that situation, but it seems to me that a properly placed head shot is going to put a deer down faster than a vital organ shot...someone educate me if I'm wrong.


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Originally Posted By: hpd
Why is it unethical to shoot a deer in the head? What's the difference between wounding him in the head and wounding him somewhere else? I've never shot one in the head because I've never been in that situation, but it seems to me that a properly placed head shot is going to put a deer down faster than a vital organ shot...someone educate me if I'm wrong.



i wouldnt say its unethical its just that it can lead to a wounded animal easier than a wounded animal lung shot. the head doesnt sit still and moves around so its just easier to wound one with that shot, timing is everything when taking that shot, when done properly its lights out.




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