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If you hunt on a lease, be sure your land owner knows this...... #2529601 08/24/11 03:18 PM
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Please click on following link for information regarding TPWD's lease license requirements.

We had our county Game Warden on our lease the past two seasons asking for this document.

Thanks for reading, hope it helps

http://www.examiner.com/hunting-in-houst...nse-is-required


Re: If you hunt on a lease, be sure your land owner knows this...... [Re: Examiner Houston Hunting] #2530074 08/24/11 06:19 PM
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I'm curious what, if any, liability the hunters have if the landowner fails to comply?



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Re: If you hunt on a lease, be sure your land owner knows this...... [Re: Examiner Houston Hunting] #2530082 08/24/11 06:21 PM
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I have known about this rule for years, but so far have never been asked about it when checked by our local Game Wardens.


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We were never asked by a game warden in over 20 years hunting on our last lease we never saw a warden.



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Re: If you hunt on a lease, be sure your land owner knows this...... [Re: westtexaswatkins] #2530229 08/24/11 07:05 PM
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does this rule apply if your hunting family owned land?


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He has no business on private land without probable cause. The only situation privy to that kinda patrol is border land by border agents.




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You need a lease license if you are collecting any money from anyone for hunting. If you are a hunting lease and the landowner does not get the lease license you still need to get it because you will get the ticket. We ran into this several times already over the past couple years.



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Re: If you hunt on a lease, be sure your land owner knows this...... [Re: mulie_mike] #2530549 08/24/11 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted By: mulie_mike
You need a lease license if you are collecting any money from anyone for hunting. If you are a hunting lease and the landowner does not get the lease license you still need to get it because you will get the ticket. We ran into this several times already over the past couple years.


So, YOU will get a ticket if the landowner does not get the permit scratch That doesn't sound right, I will have to research it: coachHEY KYOTEE1


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another useless government money grab.


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Ours is stuck to the wall in the cook shack but no one has ever asked for it to my knowledge.



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Originally Posted By: Lead Pipe
another useless government money grab.



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Re: If you hunt on a lease, be sure your land owner knows this...... [Re: TX35] #2530822 08/24/11 10:41 PM
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Re: If you hunt on a lease, be sure your land owner knows this...... [Re: LuckenbachTexas] #2530981 08/24/11 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted By: LuckenbachTexas
He has no business on private land without probable cause. The only situation privy to that kinda patrol is border land by border agents.


So, your saying a GW has no authority to check a deer camp with no reasonable suspition?



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Re: If you hunt on a lease, be sure your land owner knows this...... [Re: LuckenbachTexas] #2531022 08/24/11 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted By: LuckenbachTexas
He has no business on private land without probable cause. The only situation privy to that kinda patrol is border land by border agents.



Heck I've been on 2 leases the warden had a key!



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they warden just always comes in ours to just "check in".



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Originally Posted By: mulie_mike
You need a lease license if you are collecting any money from anyone for hunting. If you are a hunting lease and the landowner does not get the lease license you still need to get it because you will get the ticket. We ran into this several times already over the past couple years.


I call bs on this. The reg doesn't read anything like that. If I'm paying monies and the land owner/agent is collecting the monies he/she is not only solely responsible for the license but also for the taxes.

hunting Lease License (Types 132, 133 and 134)
Required of a landowner or landowner’s agent who leases hunting rights to another person on property
they own or control for pay or other consideration. The license must be displayed on the property. License
fee: $79 for 1 through 499 acres; $147 for 500 through 999 acres; or $252 for 1,000 acres or
more. note: hunting lease license record book no longer required.


I copied this out of the pdf I down loaded. Hope that wasn't too illegal.



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Originally Posted By: passthru
Originally Posted By: mulie_mike
You need a lease license if you are collecting any money from anyone for hunting. If you are a hunting lease and the landowner does not get the lease license you still need to get it because you will get the ticket. We ran into this several times already over the past couple years.


I call bs on this. The reg doesn't read anything like that. If I'm paying monies and the land owner/agent is collecting the monies he/she is not only solely responsible for the license but also for the taxes.

hunting Lease License (Types 132, 133 and 134)
Required of a landowner or landowner’s agent who leases hunting rights to another person on property
they own or control for pay or other consideration. The license must be displayed on the property. License
fee: $79 for 1 through 499 acres; $147 for 500 through 999 acres; or $252 for 1,000 acres or
more. note: hunting lease license record book no longer required.


I copied this out of the pdf I down loaded. Hope that wasn't too illegal.



Well I guess the 3 GW's I talked to were lying to me then... Landowner didn't get the lease license so it was on us and he didnt get the ticket, my buddy did.



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And the wardens said we were required to give them a key or combo to the lock, we were told it was required or they could cut it to come "check" on us.



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Originally Posted By: LuckenbachTexas
He has no business on private land without probable cause. The only situation privy to that kinda patrol is border land by border agents.



You were under the false impression the constitution is still recognized in this country...


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Originally Posted By: mulie_mike
And the wardens said we were required to give them a key or combo to the lock, we were told it was required or they could cut it to come "check" on us.


That is absolutely incorrect.


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No GW is ever going to get a key to the land I hunt on. I own it and I can lock it if and when I chose. If a GW cut my lock he will buy a new one for distruction of private property. You might as well give the GW a key to your house so he can come in anytime he wants to to check for illegally taken game. I but the license every year and don't have a problem with it but they will NOT get a key, they can walk into camp.





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Originally Posted By: ouixch
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And the wardens said we were required to give them a key or combo to the lock, we were told it was required or they could cut it to come "check" on us.


That is absolutely incorrect.


Would it matter if I am just the land leasor/outfitter? I may have to call these guys I have delt with. Where do you find such information saying otherwise...



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ANY law enforcement officer who says they should be given a key to your property should be removed from his position immediately. A game warden is allowed to enter private property if he has a reasonable belief that hunting is going on. If you aren't standing there with camo and a rifle, he better have a warrant.

Funny enough, one of the police officers who works for me told me they had a GW come into their house on the lease last year without knocking. It is all LEOs on that lease and they flipped out. Don't let any GW tell you nonsense about how they are exempt from the 4th amendment


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Originally Posted By: ouixch
ANY law enforcement officer who says they should be given a key to your property should be removed from his position immediately. A game warden is allowed to enter private property if he has a reasonable belief that hunting is going on. If you aren't standing there with camo and a rifle, he better have a warrant.

Funny enough, one of the police officers who works for me told me they had a GW come into their house on the lease last year without knocking. It is all LEOs on that lease and they flipped out. Don't let any GW tell you nonsense about how they are exempt from the 4th amendment


Thanks, much appreciated. I like to stay on good terms with the GW's I work with but there does come a point where enough is enough.



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