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buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/12/11 05:06 PM
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brooks23
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All I have on my game camera is small bucks but two years ago I had nice 10 points only come at night time though . I have a lot of does and small bucks this year but the big bucks only come out at night time like 1 to 4 am is there a trick I can do to regulate there feeding time to come out during day light or will that change when season starts
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/12/11 05:25 PM
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Very common right now. To hot for them to be feeding during the day right now unless they are starving. They will move earlier when it gets cooler and closer to the rut.
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/12/11 06:17 PM
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That's the thing though the does and small bucks feed all through out the day. For the past two years it was like that but the shooter bucks only come out way past midnight even during the season
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/12/11 06:17 PM
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The shooter bucks got to be shooter bucks by not coming around when people are hunting.
Get them during the rut.
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/12/11 06:21 PM
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That's the thing though the does and small bucks feed all through out the day. For the past two years it was like that but the shooter bucks only come out way past midnight even during the season I have used trail cameras for the last 19 yrs now and I have very rarely seen a pic of a mature buck in the daylight while they are growing new antlers. They will move better when it cools down in the early fall.
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/12/11 07:55 PM
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I've got a couple of decent looking bucks that are coming in for a midday snack. Think it's a sign of how poor the range conditions are right now.
Silver spurs and gold tequila keep me hanging on. Pretty girls and old cantinas give me shelter from the storm.
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/13/11 12:56 AM
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brooks23
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thanks guys for all your help i know i will prob get hassled for this one but i always wondered how and where do i find out when the rut is. i hear its like the 2nd weekend of rifle season or does it just depend on what area your. sorry im askin so many questions but im new to deer hunting ive been around it my whole life. my dad wasnt around much so i dont know much about it
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/13/11 12:57 AM
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the 2nd week of rifle season
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/13/11 12:58 AM
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Depends on where you are hunting.
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/13/11 01:08 AM
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They dont grow old by being dumb
We get old too fast and wise too slow
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/13/11 01:16 PM
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/13/11 02:49 PM
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If you have your game camera watching a feeder you probably won't see them on the feeder during the day. They are feeding but they are smart enough to stay away from the feeder during the day- that's how they got mature. During the rut they will lose this caution and if the does are at the feeder the bucks can show up at any time. Otherwise, try to find a thick, nasty area where they could be bedding, look for trails that go into it and set up on them outside the bedding area. As harmful as the drought is it can be beneficial in locating trails because there won't be much in the way of green growth to keep them covered.
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/13/11 04:11 PM
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Most mature bucks that I've seen or shot have not been at the feeder.
My last lease was in S. Texas and the big boys seldom hit the feeders. In fact, in 3 years on the lease I never saw a shooter buck inside a feeder pen.
Mike Buda, Tx Hunt near Freer
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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Awesome thank yall I will prob have alot more question I hunt on my property and 70 acres around it like a mile from brazos between cleburne tx and glen rose tx. Johnson county
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/14/11 01:24 AM
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Most mature bucks that I've seen or shot have not been at the feeder.
My last lease was in S. Texas and the big boys seldom hit the feeders. In fact, in 3 years on the lease I never saw a shooter buck inside a feeder pen. I agree that mature bucks don't hit the feeder as often, but never? I guess it depends on how much pressure they get, but we see the big boys from time to time. More often than not, they're back in the woods or brush just off the feeder trailing the does.
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/14/11 01:34 AM
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I have shot umpteen mature bucks under a feeder. some bucks are feeder hogs, some arn't . I've wore this picture out, but it proves a point. 5 1/2 years old 166 B&C
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/14/11 01:37 AM
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nother feeder buck this buck was the first buck to the feeder the second week of november. Scored 155 with two broken brows, which would'a put him easily over 160 intact.
Last edited by txtrophy85; 07/14/11 01:40 AM.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/14/11 01:42 AM
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/14/11 01:45 AM
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Nice pic TX
Personally feel the difference is pressure
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/14/11 01:46 AM
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some old, mature bucks won't be seen near a feeder (its because they like to hang out by themselves, not because they are "smarter") others the same age will be the first ones there and run every thing else off and suck up every kernal.
other deer will eat from a corned road till its gone but won't go near a feeder. Every deer is different but its not a hard,fast rule that "you'll never kill a big buck under a feeder".
too many people think this way.
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/14/11 01:47 AM
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Nice pic TX
Personally feel the difference is pressure pressure has alot to do with it, but a 6 year old doe is every bit as wary as a 6 year old buck, i promise you. too much pressure and they will just eat at night
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/14/11 02:09 AM
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Our big boys usually skip the feeders during the day. I have game cam pics of them nocturnally. As previously mentioned above, during the rut, they do follow the does in but keep their distance from the feeders. They are NOT dumb. However, you do have the occaisional buck that will come in on the feeder during the day. These bucks are totally unpredictable though. Most of the big boys have us hunters patterned and stay away from the permanent stands. Best suggestion is to figure out the sanctuaries used during the rut on your property, get a portable treestand, and set up on the trail leading into/away from the sanctuary. maybe set up ca well concealled camera to see how often they are using particular trails. Bottom line: DO YOUR HOMEWORK AND SPEND A LOT OF TIME SCOUTING.
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/14/11 02:50 AM
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In my experience from what I have seen with mature bucks being at corn feeders is a that they have to be conditioned or trained to them as a fawn. In my experience the mature bucks that come to corn feeders were usually orphaned around the feeder and those feeders are fed year round. A lot depends on the ranch, hunting pressure, feeding routine and the individual buck. Some mature bucks will be on corn every time the feeders go off, some will come every so often or at random and some will never come to a feeder except during the rut. On a ranch in the Hill Country we killed almost every mature buck we took under a corn feeder or with some on the road on corn. South Texas we took them under the feeders some but mainly on the roads with a tailgate feeder. When that ranch fed corn and protein in the same pen it was easy to kill a buck under the corn feeder. Most bucks are smart and but some are dumb or corn dogs as I call them.
Are idiots multiplying faster than normal people?
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/14/11 01:07 PM
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Most bucks are smart and but some are dumb or corn dogs as I call them. Corn dogs! I'mma have to use that one
For it is not the quarry that we truly seek, but the adventure.
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Re: buck question im a rookie at hunting
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07/14/11 01:40 PM
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We shot a 4.5 yo 7pt last year that is about the most mature deer we have since we have started rebuilding our heard from the property owner before us. He lived under the feeder.. corn dog for sure!
However one of our best bucks will only show up about 2 times a year during the rut. I think every deer is probably a little different.
Nice pics txtrophy, what place did those come off of?
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